[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

The “hide the decline” and the “Hocky Stick” were NOT mistakes.

[Carry_Okie]

It is high time for Michael Mann to go down. My hope is that these gentlemen can find a criminal prosecutor and a judge who are both worth their paychecks.

I'm not holding my breath.

[In Maryland]

Probably not. But while the preponderance of evidence would lead a reasonable person to conclude it was deliberate deception, I'm not aware of a trial or tribunal that has convicted these folks of lying.

But, bending almost doubled over backward to give them the benefit of the doubt, even if it WAS a mistake, it was a very serious mistake which should have been screamingly obvious to them a long time ago; and they have failed to correct the record or take responsibility.

So I stand by my ethical point - even if it initially WAS a mistake, the refusal to take responsibility for it and actively try to correct the mistake is just as bad as deliberate deception. A search for the truth, no matter where that search leads, is the cornerstone of the practice of science. These would have been the actions of a few bad actors, at most, 50 years ago. Now, most of the scientific community seems to have no ethical problem with it.

They are no better than the drive-by media or the Wall Street manipulators ...