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Weekly FR Boating Thread ~ Vol. 5 ~ Feb. 24, 2012 ~ Effects of the Economy on Boating

Posted on 02/24/2012 5:23:36 AM PST by ImProudToBeAnAmerican

Weekly FR Boating Thread ~ Vol. 5 ~ Feb. 24, 2012 ~ Effects of the Economy on Boating

If the boating market is a barometer of the economy - perhaps we are currently in the eye of the storm..

When the economy heads south, boating is one of the first things people stop doing, and one of the last things people start doing again when the economy warms up.

If you listed things from need to not need; food, water, clothing, shelter would be at the beginning the list, and boating would be second to last, right before owning property on the Moon, perhaps.

This duly noted, not much beats a day on the water, regardless of the current state of the turmoil on land.

As pResident Fail is apparently hell bent on running the economy aground while gleefully giggling as the cost of fuel skyrockets - I ask you, which does he despise more – our country or boaters?

While working at a boating dot com back in the day, we could not figure out why we would get tons of orders one day, and almost none the next. Up, down, up, down – not regional, weather or news related – we finally figured out our orders (mostly online) marched lockstep to the stock market – almost to the hour. When the market ticked up, people checked their investment account balance – the ‘up’ was their boat money to spend. When their account balanced dipped – no boat money.

Apparently a rising tide lifts...the boating market.

While whole fleets of boats bought on the bubble have been repo'd and marinas have more empty slips than they prefer, people are still buying and enjoying their boats.

How is the economy influencing your boating adventures?

"Twenty years from now you will be more disppointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ~ Mark Twain

Launching ~ Weekly FR Boating Thread ~ Vol. 1 ~ Jan. 27, 2012

Weekly FR Boating Thread ~ Vol. 2 ~ Feb 3, 2012 ~ “Off Season”

Weekly FR Boating Thread ~ Vol. 3 ~ Feb. 10, 2012 ~ Boat Transportation

Weekly FR Boating Thread ~ Vol. 4 ~ Feb. 17, 2012 ~ Spring Projects

Please let me know how I can help you with your boating adventures, and if you would like to be added to the Weekly FR Boating Thread.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Hobbies; Outdoors; Sports
KEYWORDS: barometer; boats; economy; sailing
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1 posted on 02/24/2012 5:23:41 AM PST by ImProudToBeAnAmerican
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican
Great video of the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
2 posted on 02/24/2012 5:26:43 AM PST by ImProudToBeAnAmerican (Who is John Galt?)
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican

Let me try this again:

http://youtu.be/hgI8bta-7aw


3 posted on 02/24/2012 5:27:25 AM PST by ImProudToBeAnAmerican (Who is John Galt?)
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican

birdseye boatyard pic from atop a Burger 68’

[IMG]http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii567/brilliantyachts/DSCN1670.jpg[/IMG]


4 posted on 02/24/2012 5:29:25 AM PST by ImProudToBeAnAmerican (Who is John Galt?)
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican
I have a 22 foot long Sea Ray. Took it out of the slip two years ago and it is sitting in my driveway covered and hasn't seen any water except for rain. Gas at the marina is over $5/gallon. Insurance and licenses for the boat has also gone up exponentially. I don't see any relief upcoming either.
5 posted on 02/24/2012 5:29:30 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican

I recently had an exchange with a man on twitter that said his solution to being a prepper was that he bought a boat and was living full time on it. Off the grid. I guess that is a different take on why to buy a boat.


6 posted on 02/24/2012 5:30:25 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican
Let me try this again: atop a Burger 68, View of the Cooper River from atop a Burger 68
7 posted on 02/24/2012 5:30:55 AM PST by ImProudToBeAnAmerican (Who is John Galt?)
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican

A nice morning on the boat dock sounds like a good idea.


8 posted on 02/24/2012 5:32:18 AM PST by KC Burke (Newton's New First Law, Repeal and Restore!)
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To: Travis McGee; DuncanWaring; Eric in the Ozarks; CrazyIvan; Baynative; Eastbound; Roccus; VietVet; ..

Weekly FR Boating thread - effect of the economy on boating.

Ping!!


9 posted on 02/24/2012 5:33:05 AM PST by ImProudToBeAnAmerican (Who is John Galt?)
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To: vetvetdoug
I have a 22 foot long Sea Ray. Took it out of the slip two years ago and it is sitting in my driveway covered and hasn't seen any water except for rain. Gas at the marina is over $5/gallon. Insurance and licenses for the boat has also gone up exponentially. I don't see any relief upcoming either.

Yes - as the market dipped down insurance flipped up.

Slip fees bounced way up, and are slowly coming down in some places. A full marina (with a waiting list) is a momentary monopoly - not good for boaters.

If you are not using your boat at least once a month - sell it! You can get your boat fix via charter or excursion boats.

When things get brighter, you can always buy another boat.

(Selling boats is hard, buying them is easy.)

10 posted on 02/24/2012 5:41:44 AM PST by ImProudToBeAnAmerican (Who is John Galt?)
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To: vetvetdoug
Gas at the marina is over $5/gallon.

At 3 different times I have brought my friend's 45' Cabo, twin 800 hp Manns up from Florida or the Bahamas to Boston.

One trip I remember we fueled up in the Bahamsas, $2,000+,and refueled in St Augustine, Southport, Carolina again at Atlantic city NJ, and finally in Boston.

The fuel was averaging about 2.60/gal. It cost $8,700 for that trip. At today's prices a trip like that would be around $17,000.

When I got home from that trip I took my pickup truck to the gas station and filled it up . It came to $26. What a culture shock. - Tom

11 posted on 02/24/2012 6:04:29 AM PST by Capt. Tom
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12 posted on 02/24/2012 6:05:14 AM PST by Baynative (Please check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFIcZkEzc8I)
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To: Capt. Tom
Boat will be used less for cruising and more as a swim platform in my view...
13 posted on 02/24/2012 6:06:29 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Beware the Sweater Vest)
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14 posted on 02/24/2012 6:10:11 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Texas Fossil
I recently had an exchange with a man on twitter that said his solution to being a prepper was that he bought a boat and was living full time on it. Off the grid. I guess that is a different take on why to buy a boat.

Living on the boat has been my fall-back position for some time. If things go south I can retreat to the boat and live there. If that happens I do need to get it hauled from my current water because I'm land-locked for the next few years.

Regarding boating and the economy, that is absolutely true. As gas prices have gone up the number of boaters has gone down. On one hand, I hate paying so much for gas, but on the other, I like the water better when it's less crowded. We have two boats, a 22 and 50 footer. The big one uses a lot more fuel, but can also be enjoyed thoroughly in the slip. Of course, my marina is a lot like a state park, and not just 4000' of dock with a parking lot. If only the water didn't freeze it would be perfect.

15 posted on 02/24/2012 6:12:08 AM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican; All
You think boating is bad? You should see General Aviation. I have literally seen airplanes given away or sold to next to nothing.

For you boaters...

Google Boat+LPG or Boat+Propane or Boat+CNG...

You will find in Europe firm in the business of converting pleasure boats to these cheaper fuels. Yes availability is a problem.

However, if we can ever vote this socialist out of office, their is no telling what technological advances will not be still born or will advance without the threat of even bigger government messing with their business plans...

16 posted on 02/24/2012 6:14:02 AM PST by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican
We are selling our boat this year. Washington has laid on so many charges, and fees, and now a new State law that requires boat operators to carry a Washington State Boater Education card, which you get after taking a class that you pay for. The clincher was when we saw this last summer on our favorite lake a team of 4 officers going from boat to boat in the day-marina, spending about 10 min on each boat looking for reasons to hand out citations, which they did for every boat during the time we were watching them. Launch fees also rose from $10 to $20 bucks over the last 2 years.
17 posted on 02/24/2012 6:16:26 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: NavyCanDo

I unloaded my 21’ SeaFox about five years ago. I could no longer afford the marina fees and the gas for it. Plus, we were getting tired of sitting off shore, broiling in the Florida sun and pulling in nothing but junk fish. We were lucky to get as much for it as we did.


18 posted on 02/24/2012 6:21:44 AM PST by Ax
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19 posted on 02/24/2012 6:23:04 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: BlueMondaySkipper

Wonder how many private blue water sailors there really are?


20 posted on 02/24/2012 6:25:28 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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