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50-Cent Stamp, Other Postal Changes Coming
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Posted on 02/17/2012 1:10:30 PM PST by Java4Jay

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They will price themselves out of business.
1 posted on 02/17/2012 1:10:39 PM PST by Java4Jay
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To: Java4Jay

I do believe, in light of technological advances i.e. email, electronic bill pay, etc., that it would make sense to go to a MWF delivery system. I think post offices should be open on Saturday, though, because that is the only day many can get to them.

And although the Constitution maintains that the US Gov’t have a postal service, it seems to me competition for it should be allowed. We’d just have to have a U.S. Mail of some type even if there were competitors.


2 posted on 02/17/2012 1:14:11 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: All
I just paid $4.00 per gallon for REGULAR gas.

Thanks Obama

3 posted on 02/17/2012 1:15:09 PM PST by troy McClure
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To: Java4Jay

Wait,,a fifty cent stamp might be first of a new series. Next is NWA,, then snoop,,


4 posted on 02/17/2012 1:18:07 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Java4Jay
"They will price themselves out of business."

They might have done that already. I went in to what used to be a very busy P.O.the other day and joked how I could walk right up to the counter. I wanted to mail a small box that used to cost me about 5.00 to mail and they wanted 13.00 to mail it! That was more than UPS with insurance and real tracking. I ask about the cost and I was told rates went up 3 weeks ago, particularly for none local deliveries.

5 posted on 02/17/2012 1:19:10 PM PST by Average Al (Forbidden fruit leads to many jams.)
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To: Java4Jay
Photobucket I recently found a picture postcard in a batch of old pictures. It is to my Grandmother when she was still a girl. It has to have been mailed before 1912. Notice the postage. I also found it interesting that it was in color.
6 posted on 02/17/2012 1:19:19 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Java4Jay

They should hire a rapper to sell their rap.


7 posted on 02/17/2012 1:20:51 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Java4Jay

Just shows how government types solve a problem. Not making money? Charge more? The more they charge the more attractive alternatives such as online bill pay become.

Not too bright.


8 posted on 02/17/2012 1:21:57 PM PST by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: Persevero
And although the Constitution maintains that the US Gov’t have a postal service, it seems to me competition for it should be allowed. We’d just have to have a U.S. Mail of some type even if there were competitors.

Home delivery is not mandated (it began about the time of the Civil War) It may be worth it to drop the home delivery and allow private, contracted delivery services to handle Door to door deliveries.

9 posted on 02/17/2012 1:23:31 PM PST by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: Persevero

Dear USPS: Consider privatizing.

http://money.cnn.com/2009/08/03/news/companies/usps_postal_service_privatize.fortune/


10 posted on 02/17/2012 1:23:45 PM PST by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Java4Jay

Easily 90% of what arrives in my post box is stuff that I don’t want and didn’t ask for. I pay my bills online. The USPS sucks.


11 posted on 02/17/2012 1:27:04 PM PST by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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To: Java4Jay

50cent stamp.

So now there is a rapper stamp?
What is this country coming to?


12 posted on 02/17/2012 1:28:00 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Java4Jay

Mailing a letter next door, using a government service: 50 cents.

Having someone grow a kiwi fruit in New Zealand, harvesting it, shipping it to the United States, and buying it at a supermarket, all using private services: about 33 cents.


13 posted on 02/17/2012 1:30:11 PM PST by Our man in washington
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To: Java4Jay

That will end my mass Christmas card mailings.

100 cards = $50

And that doesn’t include the price of the cards!


14 posted on 02/17/2012 1:31:29 PM PST by TSgt (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: Average Al

I use the Post Office almost daily to mail packages. The rates did go up from .05 to .25 cents. The rates are also affected by weight,size of package and Zones. A 1 lb package sent priority mail with delivery confirmation to Zone 2 Fresno is $5.95 while the exact same package sent to South Carolina Zone 8 costs $7.05


15 posted on 02/17/2012 1:32:38 PM PST by funfan (and his crew)
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To: yarddog

I have a postcard mailed in 1940. Postage was one cent.

Of course, letters could be mailed for three cents. Air mail was eight cents.


16 posted on 02/17/2012 1:36:54 PM PST by Ole Okie
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To: Our man in washington
Having someone grow a kiwi fruit in New Zealand, harvesting it, shipping it to the United States, and buying it at a supermarket, all using private services: about 33 cents.

That's a great point

And I'm sorry to be the one to tell you but somehow, someway, pointing that out makes you a racist or against the poor, or working poor or something like that. Also, you kick puppies... and the puppies are also poor

17 posted on 02/17/2012 1:39:21 PM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Java4Jay

What is a post office?


18 posted on 02/17/2012 1:39:53 PM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Should a constitution protect government from the individual, or the individual from government?)
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To: Java4Jay

Every time they raise the price I start paying another bill online. My wife retired from the USPS I know first hand some of the waste that goes on.


19 posted on 02/17/2012 1:40:06 PM PST by WKB (Anything Obama: "What a revoltin' development this is")
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20 posted on 02/17/2012 1:42:11 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Java4Jay

why would fitty cent get a stamp?


21 posted on 02/17/2012 1:42:58 PM PST by biggredd1
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To: tgusa
Easily 90% of what arrives in my post box is stuff that I don’t want and didn’t ask for

I used to complain about that too, but that 90% of junk subsidizes your 10% First Class mail. I've noticed that all of my regular bills are asking me to change to online notices. And the State of Wisconsin requires me to file my fees and business reports on line now.

22 posted on 02/17/2012 1:44:25 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Java4Jay; mickie
Be careful what you ask for.

I recently did some heavy duty shipping. Using the P.O., I saved an average of $3-$5 per carton (depending on weight) over the two private shippers.

In toto, I saved big bread.

And if the P.O. rates go up, the privates will go up proportionately.

If you haven't tried it, don't knock it.

Leni

23 posted on 02/17/2012 1:46:19 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: Average Al

In the normal world prices are based upon supply and demand. If everyone wants your product you can raise your prices. In the case of the USPS, they have a product that no one really wants or even needs anymore so they defy the laws of economics and raise prices.

Government in action.


24 posted on 02/17/2012 1:59:46 PM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: Our man in washington
Having someone grow a kiwi fruit in New Zealand, harvesting it, shipping it to the United States, and buying it at a supermarket, all using private services: about 33 cents.

How much would it cost to have someone in New Zealand box one kiwi fruit and send it to you, using the shipper of your choice?

25 posted on 02/17/2012 2:00:08 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Ole Okie

I was born in 1947 and if my memory has not gone completely bad, letters were still 3 cents when I was a kid. I also think post cards were still a penny.


26 posted on 02/17/2012 2:00:17 PM PST by yarddog
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To: troy McClure

Regular gas here in SE AZ is $3.449per gal.


27 posted on 02/17/2012 2:06:26 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: TSgt

I did not send Christmas cards this past Christmas, but used the money saved on cards and postage for charitable giving. Plus folks can take me off their card list and save some money.


28 posted on 02/17/2012 2:07:05 PM PST by ruesrose (It's possible to be clueless without being blonde.)
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To: Persevero
... it would make sense to go to a MWF delivery system.

What they should do is get rid of half of all USPS employees involved in handling mail, then deliver to half of all locations Monday-Wednesday-Friday, and the other half Tuesday-Thursday-Saturday.

Anyone who wants every-day delivery will pay for it, unless they get enough mail that it makes sense for the post office to send a truck out to them every day.

29 posted on 02/17/2012 2:14:57 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: yarddog

When I was a kid, we called them “penny post cards.”


30 posted on 02/17/2012 2:20:19 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Java4Jay
Organization Wages as % of revenue
FedEx 35%
UPS 53%
Post Office 82%

There's nothing the Post Office can do if it doesn't change that.

31 posted on 02/17/2012 2:30:14 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: yarddog

Being born the same year I compliment you on your memory. You must also remember when the gallons on a gas pump went as fast as the dollars do today.


32 posted on 02/17/2012 2:30:22 PM PST by kempster
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To: TSgt
Sadly, it was too expensive to send our Christmas cards this year... sent about a dozen versus norm of about 60.
Many others did same, I've seen here before how few we all received. Nothing in my mailbox but junk and the few bills I haven’t been able to convert to electronic delivery.
33 posted on 02/17/2012 2:45:36 PM PST by GizzyGirl
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To: Cicero
I have a box of old post cards from about 1900-1915, most of them with a short message on the address side and the back side a color illustration. In those days there were several trains each way every day carrying mail. Family members in small towns or in the country usually didn't have telephones, so they used the post cards to communicate, and the cards probably got delivered the next day.

We lived in the country and ordered all kinds of clothing and small household items by mail from Sears Roebuck in Ft Worth, TX, paid for by postal money orders bought from the RFD carrier with cash in the mail box.

Life was good (and inexpensive too).

34 posted on 02/17/2012 2:46:00 PM PST by 19th LA Inf
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To: Java4Jay

What’s the avreage salary of a postal worker?


35 posted on 02/17/2012 2:47:10 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: Java4Jay

Congress is the problem.

It will not allow the U.S. Postal service to make some of the changes it needs to, and will not use its power to force the U.S. Postal Service, and it’s unions, to make changes they don’t want to make.

If Congress does not quit its own madness with respect to the U.S. Postal Service, it will relegate it to a continuing slow painful death, when a ton of privatization could be injected into it, profitably, before eventually allowing it to be totally privatized as the third national, private mail and package delivery service (meaning regular mail service, at that time, would become opened to UPS and Fedex as well).

UPS and Fedex seem like such “better” delivery outfits, and part of that is true. But part of that is also due to the burdens - six-days a week general mail delivery to potentially, any/every physical address on the route; political hurdles to locations of and closing of locations of U.S. Postal service operations; political hurdles to private contracts and contractors performing many/most “customer counter” operations; political hurdles to locations of and closing of locations of U.S. Postal service operations; union issues deeper than any at either UPS or Fedex; and Congressional vasselation between hands-on and hands-off oversight.

An immediate “IPO” would not bring the taxpayers or the new company as much as would fixing some of the greatest burdens ahead of time, with legislation that allowed the executive branch to “make it so”, with a government appointed receiver (just like bankruptcy) who was allowed to make any changes they could in order to make the U.S. Postal service profitable.

Full disclosure - no one should think that even in a well-run, privatized and profitable U.S. Postal Service that a “general delivery” postage stamp would necessarily cost less than $0.50. Until the U.S. Postal Service was allowed to operate profitably, no one can be sure what the true cost of a general delivery stamp should be.


36 posted on 02/17/2012 2:58:53 PM PST by Wuli
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To: DuncanWaring
Having someone grow a kiwi fruit in New Zealand, harvesting it, shipping it to the United States, and buying it at a supermarket, all using private services: about 33 cents.

How much would it cost to have someone in New Zealand box one kiwi fruit and send it to you, using the shipper of your choice? A lot more than 33 cents,but the point is that private industry has optimized the method of delivery. I have to go to the supermarket to pick it up, but free markets generally entail some kind of compromise. Public enterprises pretend no such compromises exist.

For example, people might be happy to go to the post office to pick up mail if it would drive the price down by some considerable percentage. Right now, they get no discount for doing so.

37 posted on 02/17/2012 3:00:54 PM PST by Our man in washington
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Jay-Z, R. Kelly, and SnoopDog are gonna be pizzed!


38 posted on 02/17/2012 3:03:02 PM PST by Anti-Hillary (Under Romney's Governorship, MA. was the birthplace of gay marriage & socialized medicine in America)
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To: Java4Jay

Word!


39 posted on 02/17/2012 3:04:36 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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The increase in the postage commodity is a direct indicator of the devaluation of the US$


40 posted on 02/17/2012 3:08:00 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: DuncanWaring
How much would it cost to have someone in New Zealand box one kiwi fruit and send it to you, using the shipper of your choice?

Using the most economical means:
For a package weighing .3 lbs
USPS $74.95
Fedex $91.15

41 posted on 02/17/2012 3:10:26 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (If Obama was any more thin skinned, he'd have a receptacle end: Dennis Miller)
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To: yarddog
It has to have been mailed before 1912. Notice the postage. I also found it interesting that it was in color.

Dunno when it stopped, but for a long time the postcard companies had people hand-color the photos.

Walter Wyckoff, when he walked/worked across America as a social experiment in 1891, ran into a guy who was conned in Chicago (where else?). It seemed to be a variation of the "stuff envelopes at home" scam. For a "fee" the person would buy a group of photos to hand color at home, then sell them back to the company. Unfortunately, they always found "flaws" and wouldn't pay or else gave such complicated photos that it took too much time to be profitable.

42 posted on 02/17/2012 3:44:45 PM PST by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Joe the Pimpernel
What is a post office?

A post office is a dilapidated, dirty building that is owned by the government and staffed with angry union workers. You can stand in line there for a good part of an hour to purchase an overpriced shipping service. You can purchase envelopes for an extra fee. Once your package is sent you have no record of its existence until the recipient tells you that it arrived. There is nobody to call regardless of the need. An option exists where for extra money you can purchase a number, and you can track your package by that number once per day, whenever the USPS worker can be bothered to scan the barcode.

Alternatives include FedEx and UPS. These services send you free envelopes and labels; you can set up your account on their Web sites and print shipping labels on your computer. When you are ready the driver will stop by your place and collect the package for free. The driver will typically not curse you for using their service. Once the package enters the UPS system (or earlier!) the package will be scanned and tracked whenever anyone touches it, and you can track it in real time. In case of change of plans you can call these companies and talk to a live person who will assist you.

43 posted on 02/17/2012 4:35:57 PM PST by Greysard
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To: bert
Here's a link with an interesting graph showing inflation adjusted postal rates since 1885. First class stamps actually been more expensive in the past using constant monetary units.

http://stampsmarchingforth.blogspot.com/2011/10/usps-will-increase-first-class-postage.html

44 posted on 02/17/2012 4:41:17 PM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Oatka

When I first looked at the postcard I thought it was a color photograph and wondered how they managed it back then.

I had scanned it at high resolution and decided to enlarge a portion and sure enough, it was clearly hand colored.


45 posted on 02/17/2012 5:03:42 PM PST by yarddog
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To: BfloGuy

Fedex - ups wage/revenue difference is due to ups being union.

Ups - usps wage/revenue diff is difference btwn private union and govt union.

Hint - think about your govt union teachers....


46 posted on 02/17/2012 5:42:36 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Average Al
I wanted to mail a small box that used to cost me about 5.00 to mail and they wanted 13.00 to mail it! That was more than UPS with insurance and real tracking.

Yes. More and more I find that FedEx is now often cheaper than the Post Office.

Plus, FedEx has never lost a package sent to me or from me, and the packages arrive in the time frame they promise...and a tracking number doesn't cost extra. Not so for the Postal Service.
47 posted on 02/17/2012 6:02:35 PM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: LostInBayport

I was thinking that packages might give the post office a chance of surviving in some form, now, not so much.


48 posted on 02/17/2012 6:19:43 PM PST by Average Al (Forbidden fruit leads to many jams.)
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To: Greysard
Fedex will always give your package the respect it deserves. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2823216/posts
49 posted on 02/18/2012 12:52:44 AM PST by Route797
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To: Java4Jay

Why not just glue a dollar bill on the GD envelope?


50 posted on 02/18/2012 1:02:08 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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