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Romney's False Choice: You Either Support Asset-Stripping Or You Are Anti-Free Market Capitalism
1/9/2012 | Laissez-faire Capitalist

Posted on 01/09/2012 4:20:37 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist

Gordon Gekko Romney is being taken to task over his proclivities, and activities at Bain. To make it short, Romney engaged in what is commonly known as asset-stripping.

My point in this thread isn't to delve into the minutiae of what asset-stripping entails, but rather to point out that Romney is attempting to pigeonhole Gingrich as being anti-free market capitalism through the use of a false choice:

If Gingrich doesn't support what Romney did at Bain, then he is anti-free market capitalism.

Romney's false choice...

And all the while, Romney is trying to use a smokescreen to cover what he did at Bain.

In the end, just because you CAN take on more debt to procure investors an earlier dividend, for example, doesn't mean that you SHOULD.

Might doesn't always make right...


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1 posted on 01/09/2012 4:20:49 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Wait until Newt totally exposes this liberal jackass Romney. The was is just starting.


2 posted on 01/09/2012 4:25:24 PM PST by Logical me
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
In the end, just because you CAN take on more debt to procure investors an earlier dividend, for example, doesn't mean that you SHOULD.

Since when have liberals ever based decisions on what they should do?

3 posted on 01/09/2012 4:25:24 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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Personally I find nothing wrong in what Bain did or any other company like Bain does..


4 posted on 01/09/2012 4:27:24 PM PST by KevinDavis (Ron Paul called Ronald Reagan a miserable failure.....)
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To: Logical me

The was is just starting.

Should have been - The war is just starting.

(My old eyes are not as good as they used be)


5 posted on 01/09/2012 4:28:54 PM PST by Logical me
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6 posted on 01/09/2012 4:29:04 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

As posted in another thread:

A lot of those defending Romney’s time at Bain Capital seem to be missing what should be the real point of this. That point being—if Romney’s going to run on his vaunted “private sector experience”, then it’s worth scrutinizing exactly what kind of “private sector experience” it really was, and whether that kind of experience is really conducive to the sort of entrepreneurial, free-market knowhow which it’ll really take to get the economy rolling again.

I’d argue that Romney knows more about vulture corporatism, than he does about real, free-market entrepreneurialism. And that it is absolutely not mere Leftist, Michael Moore-style rhetoric to attack Romney on this.

And just because what Romney was doing looks like capitalism on the surface, doesn’t mean it was. His whole firm could very well been based around the kind of crony capitalism any defender of real, free-market capitalism should rightfully despise.


7 posted on 01/09/2012 4:32:12 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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There is a thing known as suffocating socialism, and on the other side there is compassionless capitalism. Both extremes are wrong.

Jesus never advocated Socialism (forced compassion), but scriptures are replete with him and the prophets being against widows homes being devoured.


8 posted on 01/09/2012 4:32:12 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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Bingo!


9 posted on 01/09/2012 4:32:35 PM PST by CainConservative (Newt/Santorum 2012 with Cain, Huck, Bolton, Parker, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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As posted in another thread:

A lot of those defending Romney’s time at Bain Capital seem to be missing what should be the real point of this. That point being—if Romney’s going to run on his vaunted “private sector experience”, then it’s worth scrutinizing exactly what kind of “private sector experience” it really was, and whether that kind of experience is really conducive to the sort of entrepreneurial, free-market knowhow which it’ll really take to get the economy rolling again.

I’d argue that Romney knows more about vulture corporatism, than he does about real, free-market entrepreneurialism. And that it is absolutely not mere Leftist, Michael Moore-style rhetoric to attack Romney on this.

Also, just because what Romney was doing looks like capitalism on the surface, doesn’t mean it was. His whole firm could’ve very well been based around the kind of crony capitalism that any defender of real, free-market capitalism should rightfully despise.


10 posted on 01/09/2012 4:33:40 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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Romney is indeed in favor of Corporatism. And you nailed it by affixing Vulture to the front end.

Romney’s sort and type of business knowledge will not get America going again.


11 posted on 01/09/2012 4:37:15 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

If you don’t like what Bain does, outbid them next time.


12 posted on 01/09/2012 4:38:10 PM PST by kenavi (1% of the 1% were born in the 1%.)
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Sorry but when you run a business you can’t have compassion..


13 posted on 01/09/2012 4:38:10 PM PST by KevinDavis (Ron Paul called Ronald Reagan a miserable failure.....)
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To: Utmost Certainty
And just because what Romney was doing looks like capitalism on the surface, doesn’t mean it was

Try doing all the nonsense that went on in the 80's 90's and 2000's without Greenspan's credit bubble explosion which was all about crony capitalism for bankers. Try asset stripping using your own and your clients money rather than credit sloshing around the system looking for a quick hit and takedown.

No. What Romney was doing was not capitalism - investment in the means of production to increase productivity. He and his vulture friends just want to call it that.

14 posted on 01/09/2012 4:41:21 PM PST by AndyJackson
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By the way Bain worked with Staples, Dominos Pizza and the Sports Authority... I guess that is bad...


15 posted on 01/09/2012 4:41:45 PM PST by KevinDavis (Ron Paul called Ronald Reagan a miserable failure.....)
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Need to take a legitamate route to taking down Romney. Companies go to places like Bain because they are poorly managed and need cash. Theynegotiate the terms and most of the time, the company is in no position to survive. I hate Mitt’s politics, but the attacks coming out tofay on his work at Bain are indeed anti-capitalist.


16 posted on 01/09/2012 4:43:42 PM PST by wolfman23601
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>>Sorry but when you run a business you can’t have compassion..<<

False. I’ve owned businesses for over 40 years and can assure you that compassion often increases business. God rewards compassion.

17 posted on 01/09/2012 4:44:40 PM PST by CynicalBear
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Try doing all the nonsense that went on in the 80's 90's and 2000's without Greenspan's credit bubble explosion which was all about crony capitalism for bankers. Try asset stripping using your own and your clients money rather than credit sloshing around the system looking for a quick hit and takedown.

No. What Romney was doing was not capitalism - investment in the means of production to increase productivity. He and his vulture friends just want to call it that.


Right. This is exactly what needs to be explained; otherwise you've a lot of voters (including many FReepers, it seems) who're going to buy the Romney rhetoric about this all being perfectly legitimate exercises in free-market capitalism.
18 posted on 01/09/2012 4:46:03 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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Sorry believing in God does not make me money.


19 posted on 01/09/2012 4:48:12 PM PST by KevinDavis (Ron Paul called Ronald Reagan a miserable failure.....)
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To: KevinDavis

Another preposterously ill-informed thread regarding Romney’s business activities.

There are many reasons to oppose Romney, but now people with a grasp of venture capital, turnarounds, and finance no more robust than might be found in an average troop of Girl Scouts are writing posts that sound like they were scribbled with a crayon by Michael Moore or the halfwits of the Occupy Movement.

Hating Romney to insanity reduces one’s effectiveness in stopping him.


20 posted on 01/09/2012 4:49:09 PM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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