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ll Clinton: Gingrich Opposed Bill That Led To Balanced Budgets
LA Times

Posted on 12/20/2011 2:48:44 PM PST by Steelfish

Bill Clinton: Gingrich Opposed Bill That Led To Balanced Budgets

December 20, 2011 It’s a claim that has been central to Newt Gingrich’s presidential campaign: that he “balanced the budget for four straight years” when he was speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives in the 1990s.

Now former President Clinton is calling Gingrich out, saying it’s “not really” accurate for Gingrich to take the credit for all those balanced budgets.

“I think he did work with me to pass some good budgets,” Clinton said Tuesday in an interview with NBC’s Ann Curry. “…I had a decent working relationship with him. But the vast lion’s share of balancing the budget was done by the budget in 1993 that he led the opposition to.” (Watch the video below.)

Gingrich became speaker of the House in 1995, after Republicans won control of the chamber in the 1994 midterm elections, two years into Clinton’s presidency. In 1993, the Democratic majority in Congress passed – and Clinton signed – a budget bill that raised taxes on the wealthy, cut taxes for small businesses and for the poor, and required that future budgets balance and reduce the deficit. Not a single Republican voted for that bill.

After the 1993 bill, revenues shot up.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Society
KEYWORDS: lyingpos; newtgingrich; slickwillie; slipperybill

1 posted on 12/20/2011 2:48:49 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-bill-clinton-gingrich-opposed-bill-that-led-to-balanced-budgets-20111220,0,4803313.story


2 posted on 12/20/2011 2:50:03 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

Every budget Clinton proposed prior to Gingrich becoming Speaker, and most of those when Gingrich was in office, projected $200 billion deficits in every future year. ($200 billion was a lot back then).

Clinton is such a liar.


3 posted on 12/20/2011 2:53:05 PM PST by RIRed
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To: Steelfish

Clinton hates Gingrich?! That settles it, Gingrich has to go! </s


4 posted on 12/20/2011 2:56:28 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Is Slick talking about the articles of impeachment? That didn’t originate in the House, but it did lead to balanced budgets, ultimately.

Thanks Steelfish.


5 posted on 12/20/2011 2:57:32 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: RIRed

He, Clinton is trying IMO to keep the myth alive that it was his economy, not the Republicans dragging him kicking and screaming all the way to a balanced so-to-speak budget.

Clinton is such a psychopath he I’m all but certain that he believes his own lies.


6 posted on 12/20/2011 2:57:44 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Steelfish

Sorry for the double reply, but I found a good link on this point even if it is dead wrong on the tax issue. Even the Washington Compost can’t back up the Dems on this one.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/barbara-boxers-gross-rewriting-of-history/2011/06/30/AGFGVqsH_blog.html


7 posted on 12/20/2011 2:58:22 PM PST by RIRed
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To: SunkenCiv

... and a rocket up a camel’s a$$.


8 posted on 12/20/2011 2:58:32 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Steelfish

(no link)

Gingrich, Role as House Leader Intact, Offers Clinton an Olive Branch
New York Times, The (NY) - Thursday, November 7, 1996
Author: FRANCIS X. CLINES

Having survived the Democrats’ nationwide assault on his leadership, Speaker Newt Gingrich gratefully responded today with a noticeably noncombative call to find “common ground” with President Clinton in the Administration’s second term.

“We ought to work with him and give him a chance to lead in the direction he campaigned on,” said Mr. Gingrich, whose tone at 3 o’clock this morning, as he finally confirmed that the Republicans had retained control of the House and that his hand would therefore remain on the gavel, was considerably gentler than it was two years ago, when he began honing a reputation as a political revolutionary keen for jousting with Mr. Clinton .

“And if he sticks to the things he campaigned on, we should be able to find some common ground,” the Speaker declared, borrowing from the President to invoke the phrase “common ground” repeatedly at a news conference here in his Atlanta-area district, as if that phrase were already his own fresh, more careful mantra for the new Republican Congress.

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UNEASE OVER GINGRICH LINGERS IN HOUSE GOP UNITED FRONT: YOUNG CONSERVATIVES STILL FEEL BETRAYED BY CONCESSIONS.
San Jose Mercury News (CA) - Saturday, July 26, 1997

Author: DAVID HESS, Mercury News Washington Bureau

House Republicans would have people believe the turmoil is over — that they’re united, focused on legislation and rallying behind House Speaker Newt Gingrich following the abortive coup attempt against him.

But beneath the public declarations of harmony, there remains a lingering sense of unease over Gingrich ‘s leadership style and the party’s purpose.

Rep. Lindsey Graham , R-S.C., a ringleader in the putsch attempt, is still telling colleagues that Gingrich ‘’must lead or get out of the way.’’ He and his conservative soul mates have convinced themselves that they can impose their legislative agenda if they just hang tough against President Clinton and ignore the transitory hits they might take in the polls.

Skepticism remains

Another conservative, Rep. Tom Coburn , R-Okla., said he will hold his fire for awhile but remains skeptical about whether Gingrich is up to taking on the president. ‘’I’m taking a wait-and-see position,’’ he said, expressing concern about what he sees as Gingrich ‘s propensity to deal away too many cards to Clinton in negotiations over taxes, spending and other issues.

He and other like-minded members feel betrayed by what they consider backsliding by the speaker on conservative principles. Mostly they are sophomores who came to Congress in 1995 as acolytes of the then-fiery Gingrich , who boasted of leading a revolution against big government.

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The speaker’s retreat this spring on a flood relief bill to help California and other states also was seen as a needless surrender of principle to Clinton, and it continues to gall the back-bench conservatives who anguish over Gingrich ‘s leadership style. Republicans had wanted to add riders to the flood relief bill to give them more leverage in budget negotiations with Clinton.

‘’The diffusion of federal power, the downsizing of the federal government, the devolution of federal programs to the local level — that’s what Republicans should be about,’’ said one Southern conservative dissident, who asked not to be identified for fear of appearing out-of-step with the upbeat mood of the moment. ‘’I’m not sure that Newt is still on board. I’m not surewhere he’s leading us.’’

Even Majority Whip Tom DeLay, R-Texas, who confessed he had plotted with dissidents to bump Gingrich but has since made his peace with the speaker, conceded that the ‘’problems that created this ( coup attempt) are still there.’’

But, in Gingrich ‘s defense, DeLay said the junior members must learn ‘’they can’t just get up and rant and rave on an issue’’ and expect to prevail. ‘’They’ve got to learn to work with others to get things done.’’

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9 posted on 12/20/2011 3:05:36 PM PST by maggief
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To: Steelfish

Wasn’t Gingrich’s “Contract With America” all about balancing the budget?

And didn’t Gingrich, etal. shut the government down in order to bring Clinton to the table?

Clinton is pathological...


10 posted on 12/20/2011 3:05:56 PM PST by LucianOfSamasota (No good deed...)
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To: Steelfish

We never had a balanced budget, goddamn liar.


11 posted on 12/20/2011 3:07:58 PM PST by youngidiot (Hear Hear!)
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To: Steelfish

Newt may not choose to go there at this point in time but he can really skewer Bill on this one. Like was said above Bill was dragged kicking and screaming into a balanced budget.


12 posted on 12/20/2011 3:08:34 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: SunkenCiv

Clinton had to be dragged kicking and screaming to sign the welfare reform which led to the balanced budgets. The economy swelled only because he did not meddle in the new Silicon-Valley type economy. He took office just when the economy began to recover in Bush pere’s last quarter and he left office with the dot.com time bomb. Speak of right timing!


13 posted on 12/20/2011 3:11:05 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish
All anyone needs to know about Billy Jeff: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time; never. These allegations are false. And I need to go back to work for the American people. Thank you." He's a lying sack of excrement and everybody knows it.
14 posted on 12/20/2011 3:18:19 PM PST by nesnah
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To: Steelfish
Bill Clinton is a liar pure and simple.

During the election cycle of 1992, he hammered GHW Bush relentlessly for having caused the “worst economy of the last 50 years.” But in fact, as CNN’s Brooke Jackson has reported: “Three days before Christmas 1992, the National Bureau of Economic Research finally issued its official proclamation that the recession had ended 21 months earlier. What became the longest boom in U.S. history actually began nearly two years before Clinton took office.

Clinton is generally perceived as having a stellar economic record during his own presidency, in spite of the fact that the economy was already starting to decline during the last year of his term after the stock market crashed in March 2000. According to a 2003 report by MSNBC: “The longest economic expansion in U.S. history faltered so much in the summer of 2000 that business output actually contracted for one quarter, the government said Wednesday in releasing a comprehensive revision of the gross domestic product. Based on new data, the Commerce Department said that the GDP — the country’s total output of goods and services — shrank by 0.5 percent at an annual rate in the July-September quarter of 2000.”

When GW Bush correctly warned the American voters about the nation’s declining economic performance during the 2000 presidential campaign, the same Democrats who had loudly criticized his father for “the worst economy in fifty years” had no problem at all accusing him of “talking down the economy.”

15 posted on 12/20/2011 3:29:16 PM PST by Maceman (Obama: As American as nasei goreng)
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To: maggief

Good read: It appears that Newt was surrounded by incalcitrant and impatient pu$$ie$. Like herding cats.

Have more sympathy for poor old Boehner.

Newt must have been a tad envious of Clinton - not having all that Congressional baggage to carry around when making decisions.


16 posted on 12/20/2011 3:29:51 PM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason..)
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To: Steelfish

Well if Bill Clinton said it, it must be true


17 posted on 12/20/2011 3:46:31 PM PST by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: RIRed

This just shows how smart Obama is—We don’t need to Balance the budget! let spend and spend as long as people in the world want to give us free money! Then we inflate the USA Dollars and pay them back with worthless paper! We can crush the Capitalist system, break the imperialist west and make everyone poor save for the Arabs. Then—the new World Order can start and Obama can be president of the world!!! No more poor—no more rich—all equal.


18 posted on 12/20/2011 4:13:08 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

“Rep. Lindsey Graham , R-S.C., a ringleader in the putsch attempt, is still telling colleagues that Gingrich ‘’must lead or get out of the way.’’”

Need anyone see any more proof of who is attacking Gingrich now days? I mean, really? Lindsey Graham?
Fact is, it is the establishment who are against Gingrich and for Romney. Why? Because they could not control Gingrich like they can with Romney. That, is why they do not like Gingrich.


19 posted on 12/20/2011 4:13:24 PM PST by crz
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

But some more equal than others...


20 posted on 12/21/2011 6:24:10 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota (No good deed...)
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