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Hells Angel biker rammed intentionally, dragged a mile by East Bay Paratransit bus in San Leandro
Oakland Tribune ^ | 10/22/2011 | Matthias Gafni, Gary Peterson and Alan Lopez

Posted on 10/23/2011 6:25:04 AM PDT by csvset

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To: Happy Rain
The driver may well have "other interests" ~ remember, during the Great Obama Recession crime just doesn't pay like it does when times are fat.

I see a paid killing in this one, and the guy may not go to a prison where they have any other Angels.

41 posted on 10/23/2011 8:30:38 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
Thanks - although I'm well versed in the rules as in, "He wants to be president" vs "President Bush left the WH", I've just never heard the the term "paratransit" before
So I forced myself to look it up and discovered: Live and learn.
42 posted on 10/23/2011 8:34:11 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: driftdiver

Have you ever drift dived Santa Rosa Wall in Cozumel? Awesome.

There was another one we did at night, Macaibo reef? Gorgeous


43 posted on 10/23/2011 8:51:50 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: csvset

Babarism is growing here, as well, I fear. I guess we are lucky the bus driver did not post a video of the murder and put the body in a meat locker.


44 posted on 10/23/2011 8:52:26 AM PDT by Bigg Red
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To: calex59

The movie is “The Wild One” and is based on an incident that happened in Hollister CA in 1947, and involved the Boozefighters Motorcycle Club. HA were founded in 1948 or 1953 depending on whose story you believe.


45 posted on 10/23/2011 9:00:13 AM PDT by Betis70 (Bruins!)
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To: beebuster2000

“strikes me as odd that a guy driving a bus for people in wheelchairs would get into it with the hells angels. doesnt that seem odd?

and why would hells angels pick a fight with a wheelchair bus?

more to this methinks.”

Could be simple road rage. The biker cut him off or something..


46 posted on 10/23/2011 9:01:01 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: csvset
After a lengthy standoff, police determined he was not in the house.

HaHaHaHa, so did LEO think the house was gonna explode? What a bunch of rubes!

47 posted on 10/23/2011 9:07:43 AM PDT by STD (Cut Taxes, Cut Spending Stupid!)
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To: csvset
After a lengthy standoff, police determined he was not in the house.

HaHaHaHa, so did LEO think the house was gonna explode? What a bunch of rubes!

48 posted on 10/23/2011 9:08:29 AM PDT by STD (Cut Taxes, Cut Spending Stupid!)
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To: driftdiver
Open handshakes were to show that neither party was concealing a knife or some other kind of weapon.

The open mouth greeting is to show that neither party is concealing an AK-47 under their tongue or lodged behind their tonsils or strapped to that little thing that dangles in their throat. You can't be too careful where not all bikers are part of the 'nicest people.' Or maybe they were just sharing their food like birds do.

49 posted on 10/23/2011 9:19:07 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Christian Engineer Mass
Come on Buddy, you can't be saying that the HA have any socially redeemable qualities, because they have absolutely none.

I ride my bike with lots of normal people. I know lots of people who also ride bikes. We're not thugs, but the HA are criminals period. Did you know that outlaw bike gangs run half of the whores in this country. Until ten years ago, they sold most of the 'crank' BTW, the reason speed is called crank is because bikers often carried speed inside the cover of their bikes engine. Get it?

50 posted on 10/23/2011 9:21:00 AM PDT by STD (Cut Taxes, Cut Spending Stupid!)
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To: csvset
I've know some red and whites and you don't want to be on their bad side.

The bus driver ran down (and murdered) a biker on purpose?? Now I seen ricers in packs pulling wheelies and such which isn't safe for them or the traffic around them and tends to PO the drivers around them. It doesn't say the murderer's gender but unless they get the death penalty, their life in prison will be short and terror filled. Hell, even if they're on death row, the driver will get taken care of.

But HAs? They just cruise, sometimes in packs but they don't pull the ricer stuff and for the record I like ricers but if I was going to by a bike it would be a Harley, much safer for the way I ride.

51 posted on 10/23/2011 9:36:13 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: free_life
What do you call a hundred hells angels thrown under the bus? A good start!

What's with the hostility towards HA's on this thread? The ones I've know were great people and if you ever needed backup, they were nice to know.

P.S. I never needed backup since I'm just a mechanical and computer geek but they were one phone call away and all I did for them was work on some of their bikes when they were at a friend's house away from their regular mechanic.

52 posted on 10/23/2011 9:41:17 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Betis70

Actually they treed Angels Camp also, maybe the movie was based on Hollister but the locals here think it was based on Angels Camp, and some old timers, who were kids them, still remember it. And I know the movie was “The Wild One”, the s just slipped in there as a typo. Still wish I had one of those Triumph 500CC twins. Can’t buy them any more.


53 posted on 10/23/2011 9:45:44 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Big_Harry

Glad to have helped...

Did you ever see the movie ‘The Godfather’? Did you catch yourself halfway through the movie rooting for these killers? Many people did. As I’m sure it did for many people, it spurred a thought process within me - and one of the main conclusions was that such people were guaranteed to exist - a world far away from the comfort I thought of as reality - and that I preferred that at least these people had a set of morals, were human, and ultimately the people who they ended up hurting knew exactly what they were getting into, and most likely in at least some sense deserved thair fate.

Only right at the end of the film does that fact change, when a woman in bed with a gangster is (presumably) killed. Has even she made a bad choice about joining a world of easy money in exchange for a risk she knew existed?

It’s just a movie of course. Is life really like that in any sense? Is there a valid point there?

Certainly the end of the movie is all about that point, especially with Michael in the religious environment while everyone is being killed, with a face we haven’t seen before, I feel like the director really was laughing at his audience, saying “haha, I got you to support the devil”. But up until that point, he wasn’t the devil, so it was a bait and switch..


54 posted on 10/23/2011 10:03:01 AM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: csvset

I didn’t know the McDonald’s assault-clerk was out on bail already?


55 posted on 10/23/2011 10:10:32 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: clamper1797

Is there a difference between bikers and hells angels?

Yes


56 posted on 10/23/2011 10:17:17 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: csvset

Wouldn’t killing a Hell’s Angel be considered an act of self defense and a public service? < /sarc >


57 posted on 10/23/2011 11:05:55 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass
Bikers aren’t all thugs.

But Hell's angels ARE!

58 posted on 10/23/2011 11:08:46 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Lx
What's with the hostility towards HA's on this thread? The ones I've know were great people and if you ever needed backup, they were nice to know.

Great people huh? Do you know what you have to do to even be a member? This is the scum of the scum. I have known a few that got out and became decent but they were murderous thugs if the gang. Go talk to all the people and families addicted to drugs or who's daughters are working the streets as property of these 'great' guys as you put it. Or the loved ones of the many many people they have murdered to be what they call themselves "from hell" and they are satan's thugs and they know it... they know who they work for. I know very well who they are and what they do. They don't even trust each other.

59 posted on 10/23/2011 11:17:42 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

Read for context. It will keep you from looking like a fool.


60 posted on 10/23/2011 11:18:56 AM PDT by TankerKC (Welcome to the age of "I Meant to Do That" Diplomacy)
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