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Tomb found at Stonehenge quarry site (Wales)
BBC ^ | August 31, 2011 | Louise Ord

Posted on 09/01/2011 9:08:44 AM PDT by decimon

The tomb for the original builders of Stonehenge could have been unearthed by an excavation at a site in Wales.

The Carn Menyn site in the Preseli Hills is where the bluestones used to construct the first stone phase of the henge were quarried in 2300BC.

Organic material from the site will be radiocarbon dated, but it is thought any remains have already been removed.

Archaeologists believe this could prove a conclusive link between the site and Stonehenge.

The remains of a ceremonial monument were found with a bank that appears to have a pair of standing stones embedded in it.

The bluestones at the earliest phase of Stonehenge - also set in pairs - give a direct architectural link from the iconic site to this newly discovered henge-like monument in Wales.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: archaeoastronomy; carngoedog; carnmenyn; dolerite; godgravesglyphs; godsgravesglyphs; megaliths; pembrokeshire; preselihills; rhosyfelin; rhyolite; stonehenge; wales

1 posted on 09/01/2011 9:08:46 AM PDT by decimon
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To: SunkenCiv

Tomb any Welsh ping.


2 posted on 09/01/2011 9:09:28 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Was the Centurion standing guard?


3 posted on 09/01/2011 9:12:18 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: decimon

Did they find a strange giant cube in the tomb?

4 posted on 09/01/2011 9:14:47 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: mad_as_he$$

[ Was the Centurion standing guard? ]

You beat me to it!!!!!

Rory is better than Chuck Norris

http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=143417


5 posted on 09/01/2011 9:18:26 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG

All I know is that standing and looking at Stonehenge fills one with awe. The time I was there, there were several tour busses unloading people, and no one said a word. It was eerily quiet.


6 posted on 09/01/2011 9:19:17 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: GraceG

;-)


7 posted on 09/01/2011 9:23:29 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: mad_as_he$$

Probably relatives from my dad’s side of the family who liked to paint themselves blue...


8 posted on 09/01/2011 9:25:24 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I want a Triple A president for our Triple A country)
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To: decimon

“I’m not lugging those d*** blocks another foot.”
And he laid down and died.


9 posted on 09/01/2011 9:29:37 AM PDT by tumblindice (It's the Donner-Reed show!)
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To: GraceG

Or odd looking statues resemblling a Dalek? Great and confusing episode.


10 posted on 09/01/2011 9:40:41 AM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: decimon; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks decimon. I think they found a tomb there last year as well. That's now "tomb A", and this one is "B".

They look exactly the same, so those coming up to research the new one say, "tomb b, or not tomb b?"

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


11 posted on 09/02/2011 2:23:47 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
Thanks decimon. I think they found a tomb there last year as well. That's now "tomb A", and this one is "B".

They look exactly the same, so those coming up to research the new one say, "tomb b, or not tomb b?"

This is news, tomb E.

12 posted on 09/02/2011 5:52:59 AM PDT by decimon
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To: basil
All I know is that standing and looking at Stonehenge fills one with awe.

I agree. My wife and I were saying the same thing just yesterday. There's something mystical about the monument, the Salisbury Plain, the Avenue that leads to the River Avon, etc. despite the monument being hemmed in by two busy highways. Did you also visit Avebury which is nearby?

13 posted on 09/02/2011 7:51:02 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Bernard Marx

Yes, we visited Avebury, too. Unfortunately, we opted for a tour bus for this part of our trip. The woman leading the tour was soon dubbed the “Nazi” for the way she commanded us to line up and march from the bus to the sites and back. My traveling companion and I soon had everyone on the tour calling her a Nazi—(behind her back, of course). This added some fun to our trip.


14 posted on 09/02/2011 8:27:04 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: SunkenCiv

Carn Menyn, Preseli Bluestones, April 2011

Carn Menyn sits on top of the ridge of the Preseli Hills in Pembrokeshire. A quarry below the tor has been suggested as one of the sources for the upright menhirs used at Stonehenge. The rock type is spotted dolerite, also known as Preseli Bluestone.. ---------------------

Stonehenge Thoughts

How much do we know about Stonehenge? Less than we think. This site is devoted to the problems of where the Stonehenge bluestones came from, and how they got from their source areas to the monument. Contrary to common belief, this is NOT sorted. Now and then I will muse on Stonehenge topics. Since I am a geomorphologist by training, I will also try to bring glacial geomorphology into the Stonehenge debate, in the hope that this will be of interest to people with inquiring minds....

SOURCE

Above: the famous bluestone pillar at Carn Meini that was supposedly left behind. Below: the litter of stones of all shapes and sizes at Carn Meini. True pillars are not entirely absent, but they are extremely rare...

...I also observed that where columns or pillars ARE present in the bedrock outcrops, when they are released and fall onto the scree they almost inevitably break across, because of transverse fractures or other weaknesses related to quartz veins etc.

So away with that particular piece of nonsense. I am quite convinced that there would have been NO reason for Neolithic tribesmen to "target" Carn Meini as an ideal quarry site. There was nothing special about the spotted dolerites (they outcrop over a very wide area), or about the stone shapes, or about the ease of access or stone extraction (other sites would have been easier).

For the best part of a century archaeologists have been indulging in special pleading with respect to Carn Meini. Once HH Thomas announced that that was where the spotted dolerites came from, one generation after another has sought to find justifications or reasons for the "choice" of the site. It's all there, in the literature......

PERIGLACIAL EFFECTS ON SALISBURY PLAIN

...I came across Mike Parker Pearson's references to those strange "grooves" or "striations" in the surface of the chalk, discovered during the Bluehenge excavations. They were blithely described as "periglacial" -- but I would dearly like to know more about them...

"...These were discovered during the 2008 and 2009 excavations of The Avenue where it leaves The Heel Stone beyond Stonehenge, on the northern side of the A344, whence The Avenue heads downhill in a NE direction. Very deep natural gulleys occur in the centre of The Avenue, running the whole length down to The Avenue's "elbow", at which point it turns roughly E. (This is, of course, a long way from where The Avenue meets the river Avon, near "Bluestonehenge".

Mike Parker Pearson has said that a pair of natural ridges occur either side of a the gulleys. He stated that a geomorphologist had confirmed these features were natural.

The line of gulleys and ridges just happens to be on the Solstice line. Furthermore, it is possible that The Heelstone may have been in situ,recumbent,naturally...

IMAGE: Stonehenge Riverside Project STRIATIONS WITHIN THE AVENUE

15 posted on 09/02/2011 7:10:56 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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ADDITIONAL:

http://brian-mountainman.blogspot.com/2010/12/photos-of-striations-in-avenue.html


16 posted on 09/10/2011 5:34:26 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

thanks Fred Nerks!

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17 posted on 09/11/2011 6:24:35 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: decimon

Interesting article, would like to see what the remains look like, if there are any special things in there with him.


18 posted on 03/22/2012 9:03:06 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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19 posted on 04/30/2018 5:20:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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