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Remington 770 thoughts (Vanity)
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Posted on 07/01/2011 8:50:19 AM PDT by taxcontrol

So I'm back in the market for a hunting rifle for deer / antelope / elk. Would love to be able to afford a $1,000+ rig but that is just not in the works at this time. I've been looking at the Remmington 770 combo in either 30-06 or in .308.


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So what say you? Do any Freepers out there have experience with the 770? Any gotchas, recommendations, cautions, likes or dislikes?
1 posted on 07/01/2011 8:50:22 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol
770 is junk.

Get a 700.

Or a Savage. They are tack-drivers.

2 posted on 07/01/2011 8:52:50 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; taxcontrol
Or a Savage. They are tack-drivers.

Rodger that !

3 posted on 07/01/2011 8:56:01 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: taxcontrol
http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-296715.html
4 posted on 07/01/2011 8:57:50 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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To: taxcontrol

Ruger Model 77 .308 — one shot and they’re done!


5 posted on 07/01/2011 8:57:56 AM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: UriĀ’el-2012; E. Pluribus Unum

Ok, so what do you guys think of the Savage 111 FCXP3 combo?


6 posted on 07/01/2011 8:58:44 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Agreed... I’m so not impressed with the 770. The Savage is quite the rifle though and the trigger is reasonably easy to adjust. :-)


7 posted on 07/01/2011 8:59:24 AM PDT by hiredhand
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To: taxcontrol
That would be a good choice.

No package scopes are that great, but they'll do. The nice thing is it is easy to swap out a better scope later, if you want.

8 posted on 07/01/2011 9:00:56 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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To: taxcontrol

On one of our elk hunts, my brother dropped a big 5x5 with a Savage 110 in 300 Win. Mag. While that is not one of my favorite cartridges (I prefer the .338 Win case), you can buy over the counter ammo anywhere, and it has the knock down for some of the other big game you are likely to run across in the elk country. (I built a .375-338 just for those hunts):)


9 posted on 07/01/2011 9:01:43 AM PDT by Big_Harry (Ecc10:2 "A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left")
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To: taxcontrol

Agree on 700. I bought base model ADL Varmint rig (combo with scope) in .308 at Dick’s Sporting Goods. Package price about $450. First trip out with factory ammo printed a 2 inch group at 100 yards on first 5 shots. (Way high and left, but that is scope) Within 3 groups, I had it printing 1.5 inches in center of target. I think that at least 3/4” of the grouping is my own skill level (lack), and this thing is really shooting exactly where I point it.

Now I need to find a longer range, and wait for weather to cool down a bit. It also needs a better scope than the packaged scope. That only takes money...

The varmint setup is a fair amount heavier, but it keeps the groups tight due to the longer, heavy barrel.

I think the 700, even without the fancy polishing that you get on the higher priced levels, is a very nice setup.


10 posted on 07/01/2011 9:02:05 AM PDT by tpmintx (Liberalism=Envy, backed by Governmental authority. [I'm green; are you?])
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Have a 700PSS in .308 topped with Leupold 4x15 w/MilDot. Great rifle.
A Savage with the precision trigger would be a great choice as well.


11 posted on 07/01/2011 9:08:16 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; taxcontrol

+1


12 posted on 07/01/2011 9:08:21 AM PDT by OKSooner (You can buy a plate of tacos but you can't buy a friend.)
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To: tpmintx

i love the accuacy of my 700 (.223) but have had problems breaking the extractor.


13 posted on 07/01/2011 9:10:30 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: taxcontrol
The Rem 700 is the small block Chevy of rifles. Yes, there are better, usually more expensive actions out there, but in terms of bang for the buck, the 700 is adaptable, and repairable. It is also use, maintenence, and repair friendly.
About the only beef I have with the manufacturer is the dinky bolt handle which is more suited for iron sights than a scope. But here again, Badger Ordnance makes an oversize bolt handle that corrects this problem. This also proves another point, just like the afore mentioned V8, there are thousands of add-ons, accessories, and mods available for it.
14 posted on 07/01/2011 9:11:04 AM PDT by StarfireIV ((Atlas Punted))
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To: taxcontrol

Don’t walk, run from any Remington product. Their QC has been in the toilet lately.

Look at the Thompson Venture, Weatherby Vanguard or Tikka T3. I know Savage has a reputation for accuracy but I personally don’t like them.


15 posted on 07/01/2011 9:20:59 AM PDT by BobinIL
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To: taxcontrol

That particular Savage comes with a single stage trigger. I’d highly recommend choosing a model with the AccuTrigger. It is a fabulous two-stage adjustable trigger. Clean, crisp. Amazing.

The scope on that combo is likely a Simmons entry level scope, fyi.


16 posted on 07/01/2011 9:27:02 AM PDT by Lando Lincoln (But that's just me.)
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To: taxcontrol
Let me holler a little to get your attention....

DO NOT BUY A REMINGTON!!!!!

The have accidental discharge problems. It proven, It's true, it's not urban legend. People have died!

Ruger would be my choice unless I wanted to spend more money, then it would be Weatherby. I have a Ruger in 30.06 and it works fine. I have a Browning A bolt 7 Mag and am pleased with it.

Ruger works hard for safety and Remington has spent 60 years covering it up. No Remington's for me.

17 posted on 07/01/2011 9:27:37 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: taxcontrol
The 770s I've handled were in a word, “rough.” Very rough. The actions would bind up, materials and overall appearance left much to be desired. They do, however, fulfill their function, and have a strong market following among the Walmart set who can't afford a $1,000 rig. Bottom line: it'll put venison on the table. I would prefer though to save my pennies for something better. To that end, the Weatherby product would be more to my liking.
18 posted on 07/01/2011 9:35:25 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: taxcontrol

Most brand name bolt actions are plenty accurate enough to kill elk & deer. Most misses are due to the shooter, not the rifle.

I’m pretty sure there is a verse in the Bible that says guns with plastic stocks were designed by communists for communists, but if you ignore the religious aspect, they work well.

If you don’t have a lot of cash, buy one of the cheaper rifles in 270 or 30-06, buy some reloading equipment, and go shoot a lot. You will be far better prepared to kill an elk than someone who has a superb gun he shoots 10 times a year...


19 posted on 07/01/2011 9:36:05 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: taxcontrol

I’ll second those advising you to get a Savage. I haven’t priced rifles in a few years, but unless you are going stainless with better quality stocks, there are a number of good rifles out there that come under a thousand dollars. You should be able to find a 700, or a Ruger M77, any number of Savage or Howa rifles. I bet you could find one of the stainless 700s for well under a thousand dollars. Why go with what amounts to a throwaway rifle? Get something you can build on.


20 posted on 07/01/2011 9:38:16 AM PDT by pallis
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To: taxcontrol

.308 is a very NICE bullet.
Slams real hard.


21 posted on 07/01/2011 9:40:45 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) NO RINOs)
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To: taxcontrol

Look around for deals. About 2 years ago, I sold an unfired, new-in-box Browning A-bolt Hunter 30-06 with a cheap scope (Leupold rings) for $650.


22 posted on 07/01/2011 9:46:01 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: chuckles

I have three (3) M700s of varying ages. I have literally thousands of rounds throgh each of these rifles. My dad, two brothers, and three friends all have M700s, again, with thousands of rounds having been fired through each gun.

Now let ME holler a little to get your attention:

NO “ACCIDENTAL” DISCHARGES, EVER, WITH ANY OF THESE RIFLES. NO ONE HAS EVER BEEN KILLED OR INJURED, AND NO PROBLEMS WITH ANY OF THE RIFLES.

‘nuff said.


23 posted on 07/01/2011 9:49:12 AM PDT by colt1911
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To: taxcontrol

Get a Mosin-Nagant and watch ‘Enemy at the Gates’. @ $100. Then learn to shoot. You can get Russian ammo that says ‘For hunting big animals’. 210 grains or so.


24 posted on 07/01/2011 9:50:59 AM PDT by ebshumidors ( Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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To: taxcontrol

Another vote for the Savage, with the accutrigger and accustock!

Remington seems to attach a 12 pound lawyer to the trigger.


25 posted on 07/01/2011 9:52:51 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: USMCPOP

Once you have used the 60 degree throw of the A-Bolt, It’s hard to go back to the others.


26 posted on 07/01/2011 9:52:58 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: StarfireIV
I bought a Rem. 700 in 1960 in 243 cal. and have killed wild goats, pigs, mule deer etc. and to this day have never had any problems with it what so ever. I've used the 70 grain bullet for target and varmints and the 100 gr. for hunting. Even though I love the 243 as a all around rifle, I would go with something bigger than the 3006 for Elk, bear, caribou and moose. Remington gives you tons of choice in calibers.
27 posted on 07/01/2011 9:53:04 AM PDT by fish hawk (no more Barak "Dick" Obama)
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To: absolootezer0
but have had problems breaking the extractor.

I hope you're not running 5.56 ammo thru there...?

I have only run ~50 rounds thru mine, so I cannot comment on long-term reliability.

28 posted on 07/01/2011 9:53:47 AM PDT by tpmintx (Liberalism=Envy, backed by Governmental authority. [I'm green; are you?])
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To: ebshumidors
Get a Mosin-Nagant and watch ‘Enemy at the Gates’. @ $100. Then learn to shoot. You can get Russian ammo that says ‘For hunting big animals’. 210 grains or so.

How can you not love ammo that says ‘For hunting big animals’ right on the box. How P-unC is that? Are the primers corrosive?

29 posted on 07/01/2011 9:56:56 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: PowderMonkey
The 770s I've handled were in a word, “rough.” Very rough.

In comparison to a Mosin-Nagant?

30 posted on 07/01/2011 10:00:28 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: From The Deer Stand; taxcontrol

Agree, I have a Ruger 77 Mark II .300 Winchester Magnum. Awesome weapon for the money.


31 posted on 07/01/2011 10:01:13 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: taxcontrol

I’ve heard lots of good about Howa. You get pretty much the same metal as a Weatherby since they supply it for the IIRC Vanguard series, but without the ultra-expensive stocks and the extra cash you pay for the Weatherby name. Combos in those calibers can be had in the $700 range.

If you don’t mind single-shot, you can get an H&R for under $400, and they’re pretty accurate and reliable.

Then of course don’t forget to hit the gun shows or used gun shops. You can shave a few hundred off the price of a good bolt-action.


32 posted on 07/01/2011 10:08:34 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: tpmintx

nope. just the regular .223, 52 or 55gr bullets.
I’ve shot a couple thousand rounds through it though, and that’s been the only complaint. cost is about $15 and takes about 5 minutes to fix it.


33 posted on 07/01/2011 10:12:09 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: taxcontrol

I have a Savage 110 in .30-06 while each of my sons have Savage 111’s in 7mm-08. All with AccuTriggers. Accuracy is phenomenal. I can’t tell you how much I like that 7mm-08 round. My Dad has hunted with that round in a Browning BLR for years and it is simply a game getter. It just seems the critters are “dead before they hit the ground” with that round more than any other in my experience. Probably too light for elk, tho and unless you load your own, costlier than the .308.

Anyway, I picked up a never fired Ruger M77 in .25-06 last year at auction. I am very impressed with its action. Very robust and clean. You can still get great deals in the used and auction markets if you are patient. Well within your price point.

Don’t Forget...!.. If you consider Savage... gotta get the AccuTrigger!

Good Luck!


34 posted on 07/01/2011 10:12:09 AM PDT by Lando Lincoln (But that's just me.)
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To: Still Thinking

Or in the same line but a bit more civilized than a Mosin, one can try an Enfield.


35 posted on 07/01/2011 10:12:37 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

look at the new Redfield scopes - now made in USA by Leupold...


36 posted on 07/01/2011 10:15:45 AM PDT by castlebrew (Gun control means hitting where you're aiming!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Or a Savage. They are tack-drivers.”

big fan of the Accu-trigger.

I own a 30-06 Savage with it and picked up a 22 model with the same trigger. Fun gun and doesn’t cost an arm and a leg to shoot unlike the 30-06.


37 posted on 07/01/2011 10:19:29 AM PDT by roofgoat
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To: taxcontrol

Savage minus the cheap (combo) scope if you can’t afford the Rem 700. Get a decent scope.


38 posted on 07/01/2011 10:19:56 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Lando Lincoln
Don’t Forget...!.. If you consider Savage... gotta get the AccuTrigger!

i've got an older 110FP and their regular adjustable trigger is fine too. it doesn't adjust down as far and you have to take off the stock to get to it, but it's still really crisp. goes plenty light enough for hunting.
39 posted on 07/01/2011 10:23:58 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: pallis

A new Ruger in 30-06 is about $650 near me via http://www.galleryofguns.com

A Savage runs about $720. A Browning A-bolt in .308 would run around $800.

A Remington 770 runs about $300, including a scope.

I’d prefer a Browning myself, but I’m sure a 770 would get the job done.


40 posted on 07/01/2011 10:28:49 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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To: OneWingedShark

In comparison, we’re talking “cheap” rough. No pride of ownership rough.


41 posted on 07/01/2011 10:33:32 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: PowderMonkey

Ah, I think I understand.


42 posted on 07/01/2011 10:36:43 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: colt1911; chuckles
NO “ACCIDENTAL” DISCHARGES, EVER

Bump that. I have been using Rem 700 in 7mm thru 300 WinMag all of my life - never a problem. When the news came out with this supposed problem, I went inquiring, and no gunsmith I know offered more than a snort of derision.

43 posted on 07/01/2011 10:42:19 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: taxcontrol

Spend the extra $$ and get a Savage with an accu-trigger.


44 posted on 07/01/2011 10:43:44 AM PDT by oneolcop (Lead, Follow or Get the Hell Out of the Way!)
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To: Myrddin

Try a model 94


45 posted on 07/01/2011 10:49:09 AM PDT by Lumper20 (state)
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To: colt1911
I've never heard of any accidental discharges, but one of my teachers back in high school was blinded after his Remington shotgun suffered a catastrophic chamber breach while shooting skeet. It blew up in his hands, inflicting 3rd degree burns to his hands, arms, and face. But the worst damage was to his eyes. He is now permanently blind due to his injuries.

As part of their settlement, Remington put an R&D facility here in E-Town, where they try and prevent similar accidents from ever happening again.

46 posted on 07/01/2011 10:49:45 AM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: roamer_1

From what I have seen and know - from the woods to the range - I agree. The Remington issue was over sensationalized, imo.


47 posted on 07/01/2011 10:52:26 AM PDT by Lando Lincoln (But that's just me.)
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To: Mr Rogers

“I’d prefer a Browning myself, but I’m sure a 770 would get the job done.”

The last rifle I bought was a stainless x-bolt in 325 WSM. It’s a great, lightweight rifle that handles 200gr bullets with ease. That was around four years ago when I got it, and it came in under $1,000. Not long after Remington changed ownership and retooled, I bought one of the basic 700s in stainless. I think they call them the all weather or something like that. With a 10 percent discount, it came in under $500. I put it in a B&C metalist stock, and it is a tack driver. It went to my oldest son. Somewhere between those two rifles I bought a stainless Ruger 77, the basic cheap one, and it came in under $600. All of these were at my local Walmart, the closest dealer to me. ...I don’t criticize other people’s choices in guns. Everyone has different tastes. I’ve seen cheap rifles that shoot moa without any help at all. If someone has their heart set on a 770, go for it. For my taste, I would look at something that could be rebarreled and restocked, down the road. ...A cheap rifle can be great, but it will most likely need a good scope. I’ve grown fond of the Sightrons, but a 770 topped off with a good Bushnell Elite 4200 3X9 could possibly make a dandy low priced rig.

Check Walmart pricing.


48 posted on 07/01/2011 11:12:29 AM PDT by pallis
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So they are paying the lawsuits and having actual discharges on film and the designer of the rifle saying there is a problem isn't enough? OK, tell the guy to buy one. Just tell me when your in the woods with me. I'd like to know when you are within 2000 yards. Most people don't fire their rifles more than a dozen times a year. How many people would experience an accidental discharge? How many people would admit they did thinking maybe they should have had it unloaded or something? My Father in Law shot a hole in the floor of his trailer with a 30-30 but doesn't tell anyone because he doesn't want people to know he was drinking.

There are many reasons a gunsmith may not know of any stories of discharges but that doesn't explain the THOUSANDS of complaint letters to Remington. They have repeated discharges on film and it's repeatable.

He asked about Remington and I told him. His blood is not on my conscience. If he was blogging on Daily Kos, maybe I would recommend Remington, but I want to keep as many Freepers as possible safe. Frankly, it seems from some Remington owners they don't want to admit they own a boat anchor. Just sayin.

I've shot Remingtons, Savages, Brownings, Weatherby's, Battle rifles like Enfield's, and Springfields. I have over 50 guns in my collection and do my own reloading. I own a Remington mod 1100 shotgun my father left me in his will. That's the only Remington product I have and I didn't buy it. When I go hunting, I take my Ruger Mod 77 in 30.06. I sold my Savage because it was not the quality I'm used to. I love my Browning, but just don't use a 7 mag except for elk and above.

My advice to the man is a Ruger 77 in 30.06 or .308. I don't see how you could beat that. He should study "Remington discharge" on Google and make up his own mind. He asked and I told. If I was buying a rifle today, it wouldn't be a Remington. period! nuff said!

49 posted on 07/01/2011 11:21:02 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: colt1911
OK, went to Google and searched "Remington accidental discharge". There have been over 1200 accidental shootings That's bloodshed, not just a discharge) in total. The Marines have it discharging with no finger on the trigger ON FILM! There is enough info there to keep the fellow busy for a month or two.

As Beck would say," Do your own homework". I would just move on to something else, but hey, that's me. Maybe there is some sort of "Remington mystique" that I don't get. I'm sure there were some Ford Pinto's that didn't burst into flames and burn the occupants to death, but I still wouldn't buy one.

50 posted on 07/01/2011 11:57:24 AM PDT by chuckles
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