Posted on 06/06/2011 7:52:42 PM PDT by PROCON
Two former Black Panthers imprisoned in Louisiana are out of solitary confinement for the first time since the 1970s. State corrections officials say Herman Wallace and Albert Woodfox were moved into a "maximum security dormitory" earlier this week. Louisiana prison officials once said the men, known as the Angola 2, would never be moved.Dated: March 27, 2008
Agree it’s a long time for anyone. Nevertheless, why is Amnesty not focused on North Korea, China, Cuba, etc....???
The far worst things going on there.
Not in a small box they didn’t. I won’t even speculate on the mental state or moral state of these men after 40 years, however, human beings were not meant to be locked up with nothing to do, at all. I’d much prefer a penal colony where they worked and could repay something to society, instead of being forced to pay for them to do nothing (and many would prefer to die), at the tune of tens of thousands a year, to fill a police state quota.
Moronic Amnesty must end! -— me
Letting them die and rot there service an important purpose ~ they don't get to kill anyone else.
Amnesty International... the same group that is 100% against the death penalty in ALL cases.
The same group that believes that terrorists should be allowed to go free...
I agree with you on your, points, but this one:
“Things like this (and the TSA and ever more powers to the Police) show how close the United States is coming to becoming a police state.”
That ship sailed decades ago. With the average person committing 3 Felonies of one type or another, on average, without ever knowing they have, there are far, far, too many laws in our country. There should also be no redundant crimes (Texting while driving, PLUS distracted driving, PLUS reckless endangerment, etc. etc., for one example), this just gives prosecutors leverage to plead down to lesser charges or felonies (which there are way too many of, also) to thwart our criminal justice system.
In any event, I don’t want to get off topic too far. Any time in Solitary (the way now run), beyond a few hours (maybe days, maybe), is cruel and unusual punishment. The criminal justice system is not to punish people, though it is a part (Rehabilitation, Recompense, Deterrent, Safety, and Punishment, are the 5 purposes, if anyone cares). It’s to bring justice, and solitary doesn’t bring that, and certainly not 40 years of it. The people who are involved in this and become the arbiters of this human torture are seldom any better than those who meet “justice” at their hands.
Our Founders also practiced capital punishment.
When the crime is murder or worse, "cruel and inhumane (sic)" no longer applies; all bets are off.
The only one morally or ethically entitled to "forgive" such a crime is the victim or the victim's family.
Amnesty international is only against killing people whose names they know. If we turned loose their favorite prisoners Amnesty wouldn’t particularly care who they killed because, alas, no one knows their names.
The far worst things going on there.
Great point!
Of course, America has been the whipping block for the Left for decades.
They are NOT in solitary. See above. This is media spin.
Then they should die. Not cost taxpayers millions to house them. Jail time is proven to not be an effective deterrent, and “[not getting] to kill anyone else,” is not best accomplished by this waste of human life and money. Other people have been slaving away for years to fund these prisoners, and that is never factored in.
Still, the people at Amnesty International much prefer the murder of some innocent person they don;t know than the execution of some guilty person they do know.
JDW,
Beautifully written reply. You are in my “Respected Posters” list.
God Bless!
If so, please note from their own site:
This article needs additional citations for verification.
there is no rhyme of reason for 40 years in solitary for a single incident.
Yeah? you sound like a liberal from SanFran. The man that they murdered - still dead?
Theres the reason, and I see no rhyme why this trash is even breathing.
They should have been executed. - “Single incident” my azz!
BTW, prison guards are not armed.
In fact, a quarter of the cars on the LA roads have TX plates. Secondly , Someone from Texas shouldn't be peddling press release BS from some Lefty Wing British Communist organization ! Do you instantly believe this crap ? Consider the source !
What ridiculousness!!
I fully support Capital Punishment. If the Louisiana authorities had had an airtight case, they would have followed the constitution and brought these “yoots” to trial in front of a jury, gotten a death sentence and then hung ‘em high
I would be all in favor of that. Heck, I live in Texas, where we fry ‘em every week down in Huntsville.
40 years in solitary is not justice. It is torture. And just like slavery, there is NO need of context. It just is.
I suspect that this is an effort to open the door to an attack against the federal penitentiary ADX Florence, where *many* of the prisoners are kept in perpetual solitary confinement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adx_florence
ADX Florence is the United States Maximum Security prison. On the Wiki, they list prisoners that are *believed* to be in ADX, and you may recognize several of their names, but they are under such tight security that the government doesn’t officially say who is in there.
In their maximum security wing, prisoners are kept in lockdown 23 hours a day, and permitted 1 hour of individual exercise in a concrete pit. Their beds and desks are made of concrete, and their toilet and shower cut off automatically if their drains are clogged.
A former warden refers to it as “a cleaner version of Hell.”
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.