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Pain Lingers as Death Row Inmate Lives On
Los Angeles Daily News ^ | 2/10/2011 | Dennis McCarthy, Columnist

Posted on 02/10/2011 2:28:35 PM PST by Mark

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1 posted on 02/10/2011 2:28:42 PM PST by Mark
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To: Mark

Nobody gets away with anything. There is a higher court with no appeals. Justice will be done. Unfortunately we won’t see it just yet.


2 posted on 02/10/2011 2:36:39 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White)
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To: Mark
Nitrogen Asphyxiation

Strap the condemned down, apply an external brain wave activity monitor then apply a plastic face mask and pump in 99% pure industrial nitrogen. Wait till the brain monitor flat lines. Then wait 5 min more.

Environmentally friendly - Nitrogen makes up 78% of the atmosphere

Painless - the material data safety sheet for nitrogen warns about how quickly and without notice individuals can succumb to nitrogen asphyxiation

100% sure kill
No blood splatter to clean up after wards

3 posted on 02/10/2011 2:41:36 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Mark

“justice delayed is justice denied” , unless you’re Mike Farrell, then justice is “just us” Hollyweird leftists living behind guarded gates.


4 posted on 02/10/2011 2:41:43 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: Mark

fankly if your worried about “pain and suffering a shot to the head by 3 sincyronized mini guns or the new xm-25 with shot would do it just fine. by the time the nerve impuses reached the brain, there wouldn’t be any brain.


5 posted on 02/10/2011 2:41:54 PM PST by waynesa98
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To: Mark

A claw hammer at True Value costs about $12.


6 posted on 02/10/2011 2:50:15 PM PST by lurk
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To: taxcontrol

No problems with finding a vein under rolls of fat, either.


7 posted on 02/10/2011 2:50:49 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Mark

Give him to me. I’ll need rope, a hoist, and some pizza.


8 posted on 02/10/2011 2:51:05 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Mark

If we had REAL MEN running our judiciary at EVERY level, these situations wouldn’t even be an issue...

I’m tired of living in a world where our menfolk won’t provide JUSTICE to a 16 year old GIRL in THIS case and kids MUCH younger in many others.

The lunatics of this world should NOT get a free pass...and living another 30 years while your victim doesn’t live past 16 is certainly just that! Grrrrrrr!


9 posted on 02/10/2011 2:51:26 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: ReverendJames
There is a higher court with no appeals. Justice will be done.

I sometimes wish I could believe that. Absent such a belief, we have to make our own justice. That being the case, I fully support a fair and swift death penalty for murder.

10 posted on 02/10/2011 2:53:00 PM PST by Abin Sur
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To: A_perfect_lady

I’ll buy the pizza! :)


11 posted on 02/10/2011 2:53:03 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Mark

I saw that case explosred on ID The Investigative Divcovery Chanel a while back.
Unspeakable animals. I thought he had been executed.
This is disgusting for that animal to still be drawing oxygen 30 years later!!


12 posted on 02/10/2011 2:54:37 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Abin Sur

There’s an expression that goes “The anticipation of death is worse than death itself”. When those two are seeing the flames of Hell on their death bed then they’ll know. The reason I say that is; my former wife told me the story about a relative that was dying. The guy was pretty much a creep all his life. The family was gathered around his bed and all of a sudden he started screaming that ‘they’re here, they’re coming for me’ then he died. This is pretty much the short version but the way she told it to me raised goosebumps.


13 posted on 02/10/2011 2:58:59 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White)
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Murders

Bittaker and Norris hatched a plan to rape and kill local girls. Bittaker bought a 1977 GMC cargo van, which they came to call “Murder Mack”, because it had no side windows in the back and a large passenger side sliding door. From February to June 1979, they gave their plan a test run. They drove along the Pacific Coast Highway, stopped at beaches, talked to girls and took their pictures. When the pair was arrested, police found close to 500 pictures among Bittaker’s possessions.

On June 24, 1979, they claimed their first victim, 16-year-old Cindy Schaeffer. They picked her up near Redondo Beach, Norris forcing her into the van. He duct taped her mouth and bound her arms and legs. Bittaker drove the van to a fire road on San Gabriel Mountains out of sight of the highway. Both men raped the girl, and then Bittaker wrapped a straightened wire coat hanger around her neck. He tightened the wire with vise-grip pliers, strangling her to death. They wrapped her body in a plastic shower curtain and dumped it in a nearby canyon.

They picked up 18-year-old Andrea Hall hitchhiking on July 8. Norris hid in the back of the van and Bittaker talked her into the van. After she had gotten in Bittaker offered her a drink from a cooler in the back. When she went to the cooler Norris jumped her, bound her arms and legs, and taped her mouth shut. They took her to the fire road and raped her several times. Bittaker dragged her from the van, and Norris left to get beer. When he returned, Hall was gone, and Bittaker was looking at Polaroid pictures of her. He had stabbed her with an ice pick in both ears and strangled her. He threw her body over a cliff.

On September 3, while driving near Hermosa Beach, the pair spotted two girls on a bus stop bench and offered them a ride. Jackie Gilliam, 15, and Leah Lamp, 13, accepted their offer. The girls became suspicious when Bittaker parked the van near a suburban tennis court. Lamp went for the back door and Norris hit her in the head with a bat. A short scuffle broke out, but with Bittaker’s help Norris subdued the teens and bound them both. Bittaker then drove them to the fire road. They kept the girls alive for two days, raping and torturing them the whole time with a wire hanger and pliers. They even made an audio recording of the events. Eventually Bittaker stabbed Gilliam in both ears with an ice pick. When she didn’t succumb to her injuries, both men took turns strangling her until she died. Bittaker then strangled Lamp while Norris hit her in the head with a sledgehammer seven times. They dumped the bodies over a cliff, the ice pick still in Gilliam’s head.

They kidnapped Shirley Sanders on September 30, macing her and forcing her into the van. Both raped her, but she escaped. Police had showed her pictures of the men and she had identified the men as Lawrence and Roy.

They kidnapped 16-year-old Lynette Ledford on October 31, raping her and torturing her, while driving around Los Angeles instead of heading to their usual mountain spot. Bittaker stabbed the young girl several times and also tortured her with the pliers. During her torture, her screams and pleas were tape-recorded as Bittaker repeatedly beat her elbows with a sledgehammer, all the time demanding that she not stop screaming; he eventually strangled her with a wire hanger, using the pliers to twist a cinching loop around her throat. Instead of tossing her body over a cliff, they left it on a random lawn in Hermosa Beach to see the local reaction in the newspaper. The body was found the next day and caused quite a stir, being only days since the arrest of “Hillside Strangler” Angelo Buono.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Bittaker_and_Roy_Norris


14 posted on 02/10/2011 3:02:35 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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Normally, I would agree with you ... N2 asphyxia is the way to go. Dry Nitrogen is dirt cheap at AirGas, and will kill you stone cold dead before you know it.

Some of these bastards, though, seem to deserve CO2 asphyxia, though ...

15 posted on 02/10/2011 3:04:12 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Mark

Americans are fed up with this nonsense of painful executions.

$20 on 10-15 feet 3/4” of hemp rope.

All you need is a sturdy tree in front of the courthouse.

Problem solved.


16 posted on 02/10/2011 3:04:33 PM PST by primeval patriot
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To: ReverendJames

I would like to hear the long version, if you are up to telling it.


17 posted on 02/10/2011 3:13:08 PM PST by Ditter
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To: patriot08

Scott Glenn, the actor was very liberal on the death penalty. Then the FBI manhunter John Douglas played the tape of the torture of this girl for him. Glenn said that he would never oppose the DP again.


18 posted on 02/10/2011 3:13:26 PM PST by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: ReverendJames
That reminds me of a short story I once read. Time travelers from the far future show up in Hitler's bunker and convince him to leave with them (they leave a duplicate body so as not to cause a paradox). It seems that with all their science, they have determined that that's no afterlife, no Heaven or Hell...so they create their own version of Hell just for Adolph. The story ends with Hitler seeing his destination, and screaming.

Your wife's story, while creepy, isn't exactly rigorous evidence of the afterlife. If demons show up right before the death of a wicked person, why aren't there countless similar accounts right before the execution of murderers? It seems more likely that her relative had simply seen the movie "Ghost" a few too many times...

19 posted on 02/10/2011 3:17:54 PM PST by Abin Sur
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The hanging sounds very painless. Also the libs said that starving is very painless and euphoric.


20 posted on 02/10/2011 3:21:07 PM PST by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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