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Boortz is all over the Birth Cert issue this am (vanity)
Boortz show | 21 Jan 2011 | pilotdave

Posted on 01/21/2011 8:08:39 AM PST by PilotDave

Neil has spent the past 2 segments discussing the gov of HI's failure to produce the long form BC. He actually said there may be something to it??? He still doesn't get that there is more to being a natural born citizen than simply being born in America, but it's a start.


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KEYWORDS: birth; birthcertificate; boortz; certifigate; hawaii; naturalborncitizen; nealboortz; obama; vanity
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If you are elegible to be a citizen of more than one country at birth, then you could have a split loyalty and are not elegible to be president of the United States. Obama had a dual citizenship at birth. US and British. Not qualified. Does anyone really think the founders would have wanted a British citizen to become President? It ain't about where he was born, it's about dual citizenship.
1 posted on 01/21/2011 8:08:43 AM PST by PilotDave
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To: PilotDave

Boortz gets no praise from me for mastering elementary logic after two years of the usurper’s rule.


2 posted on 01/21/2011 8:11:38 AM PST by devere
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To: devere

The “fair” tax is a ripoff of retiree’s who have saved for retirement (double taxation).


3 posted on 01/21/2011 8:13:48 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: PilotDave

He still doesn’t get that there is more to being a natural born citizen than simply being born in America, but it’s a start.
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Presently, there isn’t. Being born here is all it takes. But at the time of obama’s birth, there was a little more to it. The age of the mother, her citizenship status, and her residency history played a part in the determination if the father was not a citizen.


4 posted on 01/21/2011 8:13:59 AM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: PilotDave
I caught this as well. As strong a believer in the Constitution as Boortz claims to be, I don't understand why he doesn't realize the following (quoting from one of the responses on his website:

"I have no doubts at all that he was physically born in Hawaii. His mother was under the age of majority, and his father was a citizen of Kenya (a colony of Britain). According to British Colonial rule at the time, he's a citizen of the crown. This was before the U.S. immigration rules changed (I think that was '63) to make him an "Anchor Baby". Why hasn't anybody (including Neal) brought this up?"

5 posted on 01/21/2011 8:14:15 AM PST by Marathoner (Repeal the 17th amendment, and the 16th for good measure.)
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To: devere
Boortz gets no praise from me for mastering elementary logic after two years of the usurper’s rule.

Boortz's specialty isn't original ideas. He jumps on bandwagons. He's pretty late on this one but the way he did it is no surprise.

6 posted on 01/21/2011 8:17:05 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: PilotDave

For anyone using iHeart Radio (on iPhone, for example), Boortz is available AMs on 92.5 The Patriot station.


7 posted on 01/21/2011 8:18:45 AM PST by JaguarXKE (Life - It's 10 percent circumstances and 90 percent how you react to circumstances - Sarah Palin)
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To: PilotDave

More than just dual citizenship ... if he was born in Kenya, then he lied by saying he was born in Hawaii.


8 posted on 01/21/2011 8:20:37 AM PST by RLegacy (You say tomato, I say Yuck Fou)
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To: Marathoner

Follow up on my post #3, I’m especially disappointed that more of the talkers (Rush, Sean, and especially TGO Levin) haven’t focused on this. After all, it’s just fidelity to the Constituion we’re talking about.


9 posted on 01/21/2011 8:20:53 AM PST by Marathoner (Repeal the 17th amendment, and the 16th for good measure.)
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To: PilotDave

He waits until after Royal passes to begin discussing this? That’s why I don’t tune into to Boortz’s show.


10 posted on 01/21/2011 8:21:03 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: PilotDave

He doesn’t have Royal Marshal to hold him back on the issue anymore. Sorry, that is insensitive of me, but I say it in honor of Royal. I miss him.


11 posted on 01/21/2011 8:21:54 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (RIP Royal Marshall, you ran the good race.)
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To: PilotDave

Ok, so when did Obama do all this faux paperwork?

Before he ran for Senate?

(sorry, I am out of touch on the BC stuff)


12 posted on 01/21/2011 8:22:11 AM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Great minds.

I rarely listen to him because he seems to enjoy offending devout Christians.


13 posted on 01/21/2011 8:24:28 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (RIP Royal Marshall, you ran the good race.)
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To: PilotDave

“It ain’t about where he was born, it’s about dual citizenship”. plain and simple and I am so stealing that for my tagline!


14 posted on 01/21/2011 8:25:41 AM PST by freebird5850 (It ain't about where he was born, it's about dual citizenship)
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To: mamelukesabre

“Presently, there isn’t. Being born here is all it takes”

I think you are confusing the standards for citizenship and the job requirements for being President, Natural Born Citizen. The founders discussed the terms citizen, native born and natural born. They chose natural born as the requirement for exactly 1 job. That of POTUS. Natural Born means born of 2 US citizen parents and born on US soil. Of course we need the Supreme Court to rule on this, in terms of POTUS.


15 posted on 01/21/2011 8:25:46 AM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: roses of sharon

lol, that’s part of the point. There doesn’t seem to be any paper work. Their was a faked Certificate of Live Birth (not a Birth Certificate) that was put out on the web, but Hawaii refuses to say those are legitimate.

Mr. Transparency has been everything but transparent.


16 posted on 01/21/2011 8:26:45 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (RIP Royal Marshall, you ran the good race.)
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To: mamelukesabre
Chester Arthur perpetrated a fraud as to his eligibility to be Vice President by spreading various lies about his parents’ heritage. President Arthur’s father, William Arthur, became a United States citizen in August 1843. But Chester Arthur was born in 1829. Therefore, he was a British Citizen by descent, and a dual citizen at birth, if not his whole life. He wasn’t a “natural born citizen” and he knew it.

How ironic that the allegations started by Arthur Hinman in his pamphlet entitled, “How A British Subject Became President”, have turned out to be true…but not for the reason Hinman suggested.

Hinman alleged that Arthur was born in Ireland or Canada as a British subject. It was bunk. It’s been definitively established that Chester Arthur was born in Vermont. But Hinman turns out to be correct anyway since Chester Arthur was a British citizen/subject by virtue of his father not having naturalized as a United States citizen until Chester Arthur was almost 14 years old.

That means Chester Arthur was a British subject at the time of his birth.

17 posted on 01/21/2011 8:27:01 AM PST by kabar
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To: PilotDave

no, natural born applies to much more than POTUSA


18 posted on 01/21/2011 8:31:05 AM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: mamelukesabre

“Presently, there isn’t. Being born here is all it takes. But at the time of obama’s birth, there was a little more to it. The age of the mother, her citizenship status, and her residency history played a part in the determination if the father was not a citizen.”

Actually being born here is not all it takes. There are at least 4 different definitions of “citizen” in the US. Born in the US makes you a “born citizen” or a “native citizen” not a “natural born citizen” 4 Supreme Court Cases have defined “Natural Born” as born in the US of 2 US citizen parents. President Chester A. Arthur was not a natural born citizen and he lied about his family history to cover it up and later burned most of his papers. His father was born in Ireland and did not become naturalized until after Arthur was born.

This issue should have been discussed and resolved during th 2008 campaign. Instead it was allowed to be covered up and now we have a person sitting in the Whitehouse who is not eligible to be President and who has known all along he is not eligible and has more than likely committed fraud to cover it up.

The Democratic Party of Hawaii refused to put Obama’s name on the Hawaii ballot due to ineligibility in 2008. Nancy Pelosi then perjured herself and sent a nomination letter to the Supervisor of Elections in HI stating that Barack Obama was eligible to be on the ballot under the Constitution of the USA. He then arbitraily decided to place Obama’s name on the ballot using a Hawaii statute that allows the Elections Supervisor to make a decison if there are 2 competing opinions of a candidate’s eligibility. Nancy Pelosi then send a different letter to the other 49 states omitting the part about being elibible under the Constitution.


19 posted on 01/21/2011 8:31:07 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: FreeAtlanta
I rarely listen to him because he seems to enjoy offending devout Christians.

I have the same problem with him as well, esp. on the issue of abortion. It's a shame, as he's really good on most other issues, esp. government schools.

This specific NBC issue really upsets me though, even more than all the Marxist crap that's happened the past 2 years, since IMHO it's just blatant disregard for the Constitutional qualifications for the office of President.

20 posted on 01/21/2011 8:33:05 AM PST by Marathoner (Repeal the 17th amendment, and the 16th for good measure.)
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