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Markos Blames Palin for Giffords Shooting—There’s Just 1 Problem: Kos Put a Bulls Eye on Giffords
Patterico.com ^ | 1/8/2011 | Patterico

Posted on 01/09/2011 9:04:12 AM PST by fight_truth_decay

Markos Moulitsas, doing the “Right Wingers Are Responsible for This Violent Act!”

Naturally, putting a bulls eye on someone isn’t actually violent rhetoric. Stuff like this is just invoked by soulless ghouls to make a cheap political point. If you want actual violent rhetoric, you’d have to to go . . . well, Kos himself:

That said, I feel nothing over the death of merceneries. [sic] They aren’t in Iraq because of orders, or because they are there trying to help the people make Iraq a better place. They are there to wage war for profit. Screw them.

Now that’s violent rhetoric!

UPDATE: Let me be triply clear in case you somehow missed the point: the post does not actually blame Kos for encouraging the shooting. The post blames Kos for being a smear-artist douchebag for blaming Palin for the shooting.

It’s not a subtle distinction . . .

UPDATE x2: Paul Krugman joins the army of scumbags who blame this on Palin while ignoring the identical behavior from Kos.

Typical douchebaggery.

(Excerpt) Read more at patterico.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: freepressforpalin; giffords; kos; markosmoulitsas; mediahysterics; paulkrugman; reichstagfire
The New York Times' Paul Krugman writes "You know that Republicans will yell about the evils of partisanship whenever anyone tries to make a connection between the rhetoric of Beck, Limbaugh, etc. and the violence I fear we’re going to see in the months and years ahead. But violent acts are what happen when you create a climate of hate. And it’s long past time for the GOP’s leaders to take a stand against the hate-mongers." -January 8, 2011, 3:22 pm

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From his own readership, someone named BoyBlue posted a rant the other day against Giffords, basically upset because she [Giffords] didn’t vote for Pelosi as speaker. Kos scrubbed that from his site, but it’s been retrieved (in the responses) over at RedState.

Comment: 43.Patteric, may I point out that Kos didn’t call for a bull’s eye on Giffords, but for a bull’s eye on her district? (Look at the screenshot you posted.)

Sure. May I point out that Palin didn’t target Giffords, but targeted her district? (Look at the screenshot at TBagg’s site, linked in the post.By: TBogg Saturday January 8, 2011 11:07 am)

Can I get an amen from you on what an asshole Kos is being? Which — you DO understand this, right? — is the point of the post?

Comment by Patterico — 1/8/2011 @ 6:13 pm


1 posted on 01/09/2011 9:04:17 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay

Below is a link to an excellent article about this insane killer with no references from him re Palin and the Tea Party.

http://azdailysun.com/news/local/state-and-regional/article_663d67a8-0e82-569b-a2fe-46306174e1fe.html

Suspect in rampage called ‘very disturbed’

TIM STELLER Arizona Daily Star azdailysun.com

The man arrested for opening fire at a community meeting held by U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords Saturday — killing six people and injuring 13 others — disrupted classes at Pima Community College, tried to manipulate his dreams and posted rambling messages on the Internet.

The suspected shooter is Jared Lee Loughner, a 22-year-old who lives on the northwest side. He is mentally unstable and may have had an accomplice, Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik said Saturday evening.

A former classmate of Loughner at Pima, from which he was suspended Sept. 29 for code-of-conduct violations, said he was “obviously very disturbed.”

“He disrupted class frequently with nonsensical outbursts,” said Lynda Sorenson, who took a math class with Loughner last summer at Pima Community College’s Northwest campus.

Dupnik said the suspected shooter has made death threats before and been contacted by law-enforcement officers. The threats weren’t against Giffords, Dupnik said.
Investigators are looking for a second person who may be an accomplice, Dupnik said.

“We are not convinced he acted alone,” Dupnik said of the shooter. “We have photos,” he said, of a man in his 50s.

“There’s some reason to believe that (the shooter) came to this location with another individual. And there’s reason to believe the other individual would in some way be involved,” he said.

Loughner has several online accounts, which suggest he has spent most of his life on the northwest side: His MySpace profile says he attended Thornydale Elementary School, Tortolita Middle School and Mountain View High School.

As a middle school student, Loughner was “kind of an outcast,” said Shannin Macey, who said via e-mail she attended Tortolita and Mountain View with him.

In high school, Loughner was in jazz band and played the saxophone, but he dropped out in junior year, said Tommy Marriotti, who was a high-school friend of Loughner. At the time he dropped out, Loughner was having drug problems, Marriotti said, but he seemed to do well once he started taking classes at Pima.

Loughner attended Pima courses from summer 2005 until he withdrew in October after his suspension, the college said.

He tried to enlist in the Army in 2008 but was rejected, said First Sgt. Brian Homme, who oversees Army recruiting in Tucson. Loughner was sent to Phoenix to take a test and physical, but “he was found to be unqualified,” Homme said.

Loughner registered to vote for the first time in 2006, said Chris Roads, Pima County’s registrar of voters. He registered as an independent and last voted in the 2008 general election.

Sorenson, Loughner’s classmate at Pima, said he was asked to leave the pre-algebra class several times and eventually was barred from class.

Pima officials said in a news release that from February to September 2010, Loughner had five contacts with PCC police for classroom and library disruptions at Northwest and West campuses.

Another Pima classmate, Lydian Ali, said Loughner would frequently laugh aloud to himself during the advanced-poetry class they attended. Only about 16 people were in the class, so Loughner’s behavior stood out, Ali said.

“It almost seemed like he was on his own planet, because his comments would have nothing to do with what we were talking about,” Ali said.

Loughner’s online accounts contain some political comments but are dominated by bizarre discussions of his desire to establish a new currency and his disdain for what he considered the public’s low literacy rates. He also wrote threatening and despairing messages.

“WOW! I’m glad i didn’t kill myself. I’ll see you on National T.v.! This is foreshadow .... why doesn’t anyone talk to me? ..” he posted on MySpace Dec. 14.

On Dec. 13, he wrote: “I don’t feel good: I’m ready to kill a police officer! I can say it.”

In a posting on YouTube, Loughner wrote repeatedly about a new currency. “I’m thinking of creating a new currency,” he wrote. “Therefore, I’m thinking of a design for my new coins size, shape, color, material, and image to start a new money system.”

He also wrote repeatedly about literacy. In a message on YouTube, Loughner wrote: “The majority of people, who reside in District-8 are illiterate — hilarious. I don’t control your English grammar structure, but you control your English grammar structure.”

In a message posted on his MySpace account, titled “Goodbye friends,”Loughner said: “Dear friends...please don’t be mad at me. The literacy rate is below 5%. I haven’t talked to one person who is literate.” It was unclear when it was posted.

In a MySpace profile, Loughner said “My favorite interest was reading, and I studied grammar. Conscience dreams were a great study in college.” Conscious dreaming is trying to manipulate your dreams, an interest Loughner pursued, Marriotti said.

He lists among his favorite books “Mein Kampf” and “The Communist Manifesto”. But he also includes a broad variety of other titles, including: “Animal Farm,” “Brave New World,” “To Kill a Mockingbird,” and “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest”.

In another YouTube message, Loughner said: “I know who’s listening: Government Officials, and the People. Nearly all the people, who don’t know this accurate information of a new currency, aren’t aware of mind control and brainwash methods. If I have my civil rights, then this message wouldn’t have happen.”

“In conclusion, my ambition - is for informing literate dreamers about a new currency; in a few days, you know I’m conscience dreaming! Thank you!”

In a YouTube video dated Dec. 15, titled “Introduction: Jared Loughner,” he describes himself as a U.S. military recruit who had applied to join the Army.

In the video, Loughner makes a rambling mention of “MEPS in Phoenix” an apparent reference to the Military Entrance Processing Station in the state capital that all Arizona recruits from every branch of service pass through before leaving for basic training. “Every United States military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix is receiving one mini bible before the tests,” it said. “Jared Loughner is a United States military recruit at MEPS in Phoenix. Therefore, Jared Loughner is receiving one mini bible before the tests.
“I didn’t write a belief on my Army application and the recruiter wrote on the application: None.”

Sgt. Homme declined to say why Loughner was rejected, citing confidentiality laws.

Loughner has had at least two minor run-ins with police, online court records show.

In October 2007, Loughner was cited by the Pima County Sheriff’s Department for possession of drug paraphernalia, a charge that was dismissed in November 2007 when he completed a diversion program.

One year later, in October 2008, Loughner faced a “local charge” in Marana Municipal Court. That charge was also dismissed following the completion of a diversion program in March 2009.

Court records indicate the Marana case file is due to be purged in December 2013. It’s unclear what the exact charge was.

Grant Wiens, 22, attended Mountain View High School with Loughner, although they were not in the same grade. Wiens also took a class at Pima Community College with Loughner, where they occasionally talked, he said.

“He was a guy in high school who definitely had his opinions on stuff and didn’t seem to care what people thought of him,” Wiens said. “He did his own thing.”

Star reporters Carol Ann Alaimo, Alex Dalenberg, Fernanda Echavarri, Patrick Finley, Ernesto Portillo Jr. and Sarah Trotto contributed to this report.


2 posted on 01/09/2011 9:06:51 AM PST by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: hennie pennie

*Ping*


3 posted on 01/09/2011 9:07:21 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay
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Tried to but Krugman has alreay posted this ... Feckin' coward.
4 posted on 01/09/2011 9:09:10 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: fight_truth_decay

Kos is a cheap, two-bit punk. He needs to be deported back to where he came from.


5 posted on 01/09/2011 9:09:45 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (DNC memo - "Don't let this thing go to waste! Exploit! Exploit! Exploit!")
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To: fight_truth_decay; All
Psychological Projection - Psychological projection or projection bias is a psychological defense mechanism where a person unconsciously denies their own attributes, thoughts, and emotions, which are then ascribed to the outside world, such as to the weather, or to other people. Thus, it involves imagining or projecting that others have those feelings.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

6 posted on 01/09/2011 9:10:53 AM PST by The Comedian (Puzzling puzzle pieces precisely proliferating panoramically.)
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To: Grampa Dave
with no references from him re Palin and the Tea Party.

You and I know that...but just showing how even the "well respected" .... NYTimes columnist who just wrote this:

We don’t have proof yet that this was political, but the odds are that it was. She’s been the target of violence before. And for those wondering why a Blue Dog Democrat, the kind Republicans might be able to work with, might be a target, the answer is that she’s a Democrat who survived what was otherwise a GOP sweep in Arizona, precisely because the Republicans nominated a Tea Party activist. (Her father says that “the whole Tea Party” was her enemy.) And yes, she was on Sarah Palin’s infamous “crosshairs” list."

This gives ratings fodder for the likes of talk show screamer-Joy Behar and the MSNBC usuals..................so they can recruit more anger toward Palin and the dreaded Tea Party folks.

7 posted on 01/09/2011 9:15:50 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: All

Libs are evil...


8 posted on 01/09/2011 9:17:41 AM PST by Maverick68
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To: fight_truth_decay

LOOKING FORWARD TO THE GLENN BECK SHOW ON MONDAY...I WOULD BELIEVE THAT HE WILL “TARGET” THIS ASSHAT FOR INSTIGATING VIOLENCE.


9 posted on 01/09/2011 9:18:22 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: oh8eleven
Sorry meant the comments on Patterico--story link.

Yes Krugman has to be getting hammered and of course the crazies are ..you guessed it!

He believes in free speech for himself. He "hits and runs"--typical coward. He writes a column then censors any feed back!! He plays Prosecutor, Judge and Jury. He also shamelessly pulls in Giffords grieving dad [who instantly had a camera shoved into his face while the reporter played "detective"]..to verify the mindset of those like himself. Krugman will get attacked for his in the media and he cannot "delete" those comments. Am sure an MSNBC flunky is speed dialing him for an appearance, as we speak.

10 posted on 01/09/2011 9:27:22 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: Hotlanta Mike

On Friday Glenn opened the show with comments about the leftist accusations against him and then gave them something to talk about. He said “I’m calling for a revolution....within ourselves”.

I’m sure the left desperately wishes they could use the call for revolution against him but he set the comment up on either end so they would look like idiots if they try.


11 posted on 01/09/2011 9:33:17 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: fight_truth_decay
He "hits and runs"--typical coward.
I'm not a big fan of Bill O'Reilly, but about a year ago, he pounded on Krugman unmercifully. I was sorry to see it end.
12 posted on 01/09/2011 9:38:18 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Hotlanta Mike; cripplecreek
Picked this comment off the story link:

318.William Yelverton/SarahPac:

“The party of ELF, ACORN, ECO-TERRORISTS, THE BLACK PANTHERS, THE NEW BLACK PANTHERS, THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND, THE WINTER SOLDIERS, MUMIA ABU-JAMAL and his supporters, CAIR, LAMONT HILL, VAN JONES, SAUL ALINSKY, CODE PINK , RASHID KHALIDI , REV WRIGHT, BERNARDINE DOHRN the cop killing wife of Obama confidant, proud domestic terrorist, cop killer accomplice BILL AYERS whose hero SIRHAN SIRHAN assassinated Robert Kennedy, must never get away with trying to blame a senseless isolated act of violence against an entire political group or advocates for a political group such as the Tea Party, Glenn Beck and/or Rush Limbaugh.”

Same link another person comments:

Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”Obama to His Followers: “Get in Their Faces!”
Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
Obama to His Mercenary Army: “Hit Back T…wice As Hard”
Obama on the private sector: “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“
Obama to voters: Republican victory would “hand to hand combat”
Obama to lib supporters: “It’s time to Fight for it.”
Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish your enemies.”
Obama to democrats: “I’m itching for a fight.”

13 posted on 01/09/2011 9:43:35 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay

Frances Fox Piven rings in the new year by calling for violent revolution.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/frances-fox-piven-rings-in-the-new-year-by-calling-for-violent-revolution/


14 posted on 01/09/2011 9:50:26 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: fight_truth_decay

Van Jones: Grab the whip, run the plantation, take media and power from mean and dumb republicans.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/inside-out-van-jones-grab-the-whip-run-the-plantation-take-media-power-from-mean-dumb-republicans/


15 posted on 01/09/2011 9:54:19 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: fight_truth_decay; sickoflibs; Liz; TigerLikesRooster; neverdem

ping


16 posted on 01/09/2011 9:56:49 AM PST by GOPJ (When liberals are FORCED to pay for Rush Limbaugh's show, I'll be happy to pay for NPR.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Bulleyes, Targets....it dont matter. They could have put happy faces and rainbows on her name it wouldnt have matter.
This shooter was either insane or a lefty lonewolf just looking to make a name for himself. I am betting on the insane thing because after reading his words on YOUTUBE it is clear that he isnt all there.
He isnt right wing because he aint smart enough.
Either way they should give this clown the chair. Xtra voltage.


17 posted on 01/09/2011 10:00:38 AM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: fight_truth_decay

The guys a typical far left loony commie...


18 posted on 01/09/2011 10:04:47 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Yorlik803

There are some in the media who agree with us that this a$$hole was/is a nutcase:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2653814/posts?page=30#30


19 posted on 01/09/2011 10:07:50 AM PST by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: fight_truth_decay

Thanks for posting this!

“The party of ELF, ACORN, ECO-TERRORISTS, THE BLACK PANTHERS, THE NEW BLACK PANTHERS, THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND, THE WINTER SOLDIERS, MUMIA ABU-JAMAL and his supporters, CAIR, LAMONT HILL, VAN JONES, SAUL ALINSKY, CODE PINK , RASHID KHALIDI , REV WRIGHT, BERNARDINE DOHRN the cop killing wife of Obama confidant, proud domestic terrorist, cop killer accomplice BILL AYERS whose hero SIRHAN SIRHAN assassinated Robert Kennedy, must never get away with trying to blame a senseless isolated act of violence against an entire political group or advocates for a political group such as the Tea Party, Glenn Beck and/or Rush Limbaugh.”

I’m putting that on my home page!


20 posted on 01/09/2011 10:10:35 AM PST by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: fight_truth_decay

I have an interesting theory about this Markos fool..it took him less than FIVE minutes after the shooting to bring up Sarah’s “Take back the 20” poster..here is my question, did ANYONE here after the shooting think for ONE second to connect the two..of course not..but Markos did, in fact, he already had that flyer on hand..why did he need it..here is my theory, he KNEW something like this would happen, he knew what those idiots had posted on his site two days before the shooting, so he tries to divert attention away from himself and his sick site and puts it on Sarah Palin..someone should investigate his site and see if the shooter ever visited it..what that fool wrote two days before the shooting was some pretty hateful stuff, perhaps the shooter used it as motivation


21 posted on 01/09/2011 11:22:43 AM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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