Reminder to Karl Rove: Christine O'Donnell would have been voting this month. Thanks a lot.

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[Cringing Negativism Network]

Have you noticed, the trend that liberals telegraph who they think represents a threat to them, by who they attack?

The left started immediately and full bore on O’Donnell from day one. They saw her as a credible threat, and attacked without mercy.

If our side had been even half as involved, she would have won, and would have been voting for US this month.

[fieldmarshaldj]

Point being that Rove has gone out of his way to help liberal RINOs antithetical to the Conservative cause while simultaneously (again) going out of his way to undermine said Conservatives looking to change the culture of DC. He has no right to claim he’s on our side when he stabs people like O’Donnell in the back while getting on kneepads for corrupt, Socialist scum like Kirk.

[aquila48]

“Abject surrender. How deeply disappointing this month has been.”

I agree. The dems got more passed in two weeks of the lame session than they did the previous two years - MOSTLY THANKS TO THE REPUBLICANS.

Truly disgusting!

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But aren’t we forgetting the important aspect of the discussion? I mean, it is superlative that the candidate have an ‘R’ after his or her name and that they can win an election. That is what is best - that we have people in the Senate with Rs after their names. Everything else is secondary.

[TXConservative25]

Angle in Nevada. I don’t know if that proves or disproves your point.

[Clintonfatigued]

Hopefully, Christine O’Donnell will start a talk show or something like that.

Karl Rove has an excellent grasp of voting and demographic patterns that is almost unmatched in the nation. He is a brilliant tactician. But he has trouble seeing the forest from the trees and lacks a big picture perspective, which is the real reason he is aghast at anti-establishment candidates.

Speaking for myself, I have supported many strong conservative outsiders in primaires, like Mike Lee in Utah, Todd Tiahrt in Kansas, Joe Miller in Alaska, and J.D. Hayworth in Arizona, and I did so with real enthusiasm. It’s the policy of supporting the most conservative candidates who can get elected within the constituancies they are running in. There are always variables, like demographic changes, media costs, and overall political trends, but in the end, the demographics within the states or districts are always the most important factor. There is no getting around it. We both know what the demograpics and recent voting histories of Delaware and Illinois are.

[TXConservative25]

My opinion is Angle lost because she did not have a good ground game. I don’t know if you can blame the establishment for Angle losing in NV. But you have got me thinking at 12:30 AM.

[IncPen]

Rove’s greatest sin was giving people on the fence a reason to vote for someone else.

He’s bought and paid for by the cocktail circuit.

We get what they pay for.

[BillyBoy]

Man, the Kirk shills are still trying to tell us how good we have it with Marky in the Senate because he did what he wanted on two votes (nevermind the fact he royally screwed us on EVERYTHING else!) Imagine trying this defense in real life. "Yes, your honor, I did beat my dog on daily basis, but once or twice I fed him some table scraps!"

Pathetic.

And as I noted on another thread, Kirk looked right into a camera and told Illinois voters he would oppose ANY legislation brought up during the lame duck session, proving that Kirk is a lying, treasonous scumbag. "The lame duck killer" voted the way the RATs want on 5 out of 6 lame duck bills Obama received. Mark Kirk, you have NO shame.

[Domangart]

You forget the RINO who made the town house hoax.

[Lazlo in PA]

Trying to defeat Reid in a mega union town like Vegas and somewhat Reno was always an uphill battle. The Rats were not going to lose that one no matter what. Look at the spending and cheating Reid had to do to hold that.

DE was a different story. If Rove kept his mouth shut, let COD battle it out, she had a good shot. She slapped Coons around in the debates. He is a weak candidate with a higher than average chance of losing next go round if we have another principled candidate.

The hatred of Rove at FR is that we take enough sh#t from the left and their media lapdogs, to have one of “ours” piling on is unacceptable. Hence, he will take the blame for this loss and be thoroughly distrusted.

[truthfreedom]

I’m 100% Christine, but Rove is not the primary reason Christine lost.

We don’t think of Delaware as a particularly liberal place. We think of Massachusetts as Liberal. And Delaware isn’t that Liberal. But 22% of the voters in November were black in Delaware. 14% black women. And those black women voted for Coons 95% of the time. Mass doesn’t have anywhere near the number of blacks that Delaware has. And blacks really still do like Obama. Obama came to Delaware for a get
out the vote rally, and the blacks did vote.

That’s the main reason.

There aren’t many Conservatives in Delaware at all. 29%.
Hawaii is 28% conservative, Rhode Island 29% conservative, every other state has more conservatives.

That’s another reason.

Karl Rove is not particularly well liked, neither is Krauthammer, or the other Bush / neocons who were attacking Christine. So, yes, the fact that Rove and the neocons were attacking the Conervative might’ve made the neocons in Delaware wary of Christine, could’ve kept them from going to the polls, possibly even voting for Coons. Neocons don’t like Christian conservative social values. And that’s what Christine is known for. See Krauthammer praising Obama these days. Neocons are not Conservative. They easily could become buddies with Obama. As long as they get what the want with foreign policy. The point is, though, there aren’t too many actual neocons. They aren’t a significant number of Republicans. Neocons and moderate / country club Republicans are not the same. Personally, I think that every single neocon is either on tv or writing. That’s an exaggeration, but neocons are at most 2% of the delaware electorate. Conservatives who want smaller government are 29%.

Another factor that I’m not quite sure of is voter registration in Sussex county. I’d want to see the new census figures for Sussex and the other 2 counties and see
if Sussex turnout per resident was below New Castle and Kent. I know that there’s been a lot of growth in the last 10 years, have the new people registered to vote? Based on the 2000 figures, Sussex didn’t seem to underperform.

But Karl Rove and his buddies are terrible and I’d like to see them go.

[fieldmarshaldj]

I disagree about Rove. I think his grasp and intelligence are extraordinarily overrated. When I started to see his interference on behalf of old liberals in the party and force-feeding of these buffoons down our throats for candidates, I knew this guy’s agenda was NOT a Conservative one. The fact that he was big time “in the tank” for two candidates in two races where both state party establishments were in complete collusion with one another (DE & IL) was the icing on the cake. He is not on our side.

[truthfreedom]

She should have her own show on Fox. Christine is extremely likeable and people would watch that show. I’d definitely watch that show.

[fieldmarshaldj]

Note the one who posted to me, that was its first post in two months, yet it is the exact type of talking point we’ve seen from the usual Kirkiebot trolls around here (and since we’ve known trolls to use multiple accounts, perhaps it was authored by one of the liberal scum). Sorry, kids, but Kirk is no more a Republican than his fellow Combiner hack, Emperor Zero.

[Terry Mross]

Or the creep she beat in the primary would have been voting the same way as the democrat is voting.

[truthfreedom]

A lot of things had to happen right for Christine to win. Most of them didn’t happen.

A Christine victory was predicated on a very low Democrat turnout. A lot of pre election polls were showing that. But it didn’t happen in Delaware. Obama went there, there are lots of blacks in Delaware. Instead of staying home, they were enthused by Obama and voted for Coons. 95% of them. Huge black turnout, 95% for Coons. That was the biggest factor.

She lost by a lot, not a blowout, but a lot, and much of that was the black vote.

The 1% that Karl Rove and the neocons might’ve effected were necessary for a win. It’s arguable that the screwup with the video at the end would’ve moved more voters than Karl Rove. Needed all of these things to win.

2nd was the uncooperativeness of the Delaware GOP. Apparently the Delaware GOP did not help with GOTV at all.
It’s usually assumed, I think, that the state party is going to do its thing, and they didn’t this time. I’m guessing that the overall GOTV was lacking.

3rd was the uncooperativeness of Mike Castle. He didn’t endorse Christine. Typically there’s party unity after the primaries. This time no. And Castle was more popular with the huge number of “moderates” in Delaware than Karl Rove.

If you wanted to lump together “moderates/neocons attacking Christine” as one category, Karl Rove would be a small part of that category.

[tiger-one]

It was Rove, Charles Krauthammer, Dana Perino, who is an air head and the Libs on Fox News

[Diogenesis]

Nevada?

TXConservative25: ”My opinion is Angle lost because
she did not have a good ground game.
I don’t know if you can blame the establishment for Angle losing in NV“

Blame the Romney-Reid-Cornyn-Rove-Rogich-Backstabbing Wing of the GOP.

Professional GOP Backstabber Sig Rogich was a Republican for Reid costing the GOP ... the Senate.

"Sen. Harry Reid’s list of the 60 members of Republicans for Reid"

So, will someone explain HOW his support of Harry Reid makes this man(?) a Republican?

GOP Backstabber Sig Rogich: “I support Harry Reid and Mitt Romney because
they are conservative Republicans … like me.”

[Godebert]

"Rove is responsible. Stop making excuses for the sleazeball."

He had a little help from the other neocon political operatives (Krauthammer and Kondrake) bankrolled by FOX news.