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No evidence of time before Big Bang
Nature ^ | 12/10/10 | Edwin Cartlidge

Posted on 12/12/2010 8:51:25 AM PST by LibWhacker

Latest research deflates the idea that the Universe cycles for eternity.

Our view of the early Universe may be full of mysterious circles — and even triangles — but that doesn't mean we're seeing evidence of events that took place before the Big Bang. So says a trio of papers taking aim at a recent claim that concentric rings of uniform temperature within the cosmic microwave background — the radiation left over from the Big Bang — might, in fact, be the signatures of black holes colliding in a previous cosmic 'aeon' that existed before our Universe.

(Excerpt) Read more at nature.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: background; bigbang; cosmic; microwave; penrose; science; steadystatetheory; stringtheory; time; universe; wmap; xplanets
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To: Young Werther

Definitely two of my favorite herbs!


21 posted on 12/12/2010 10:07:32 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: dr_who

Tha’ be nonsense. T’was nae an *evil* dwarf. Th’ tree be th’ source of evil.


22 posted on 12/12/2010 10:13:40 AM PST by BenKenobi (Obama's book of the month, Herman Melville's Killin' Whitey)
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To: LibWhacker
The 'concept' of time has always fascinated me. What ever 'force' or 'being' created both us and the universe gave us atomic particles that can decay in milliseconds; our individual lives are measured in mere years; and the universe as far as we have determined at this point is roughly 14 or 15 billion years old.

How can that be? What is the purpose of creating a life form that exists mere years in a universe that will continue for perhaps billions of years or forever?

Very strange.

23 posted on 12/12/2010 10:45:43 AM PST by Doc Savage (Stay Thirsty My Friend!!)
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To: LibWhacker

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24 posted on 12/12/2010 10:47:12 AM PST by Texas Songwriter ( ma)
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To: LibWhacker

aaahhh... must have confused him with the guy who explained why background radiation is spread all over the universe and not localized where the big bang happened. Because everywhere was where it happened and then expanded outwar.

Something like that.


25 posted on 12/12/2010 10:49:36 AM PST by GeronL (#7 top poster at CC, friend to all, nicest guy ever, +96/-14, ignored by 1 sockpuppet.. oh & BANNED)
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26 posted on 12/12/2010 11:19:07 AM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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27 posted on 12/12/2010 11:21:56 AM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: LibWhacker

Even if information survived the theoretical singularity during the big bang which is questionable. It would be so distorted by a multitude of forces we cannot even model that it’s completely useless.


28 posted on 12/12/2010 11:36:08 AM PST by allmost
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To: Doc Savage; LibWhacker; SunkenCiv

Time is just a reference (point) in (this) physical reality. A part of the creation. After you die you exist in a “no time” environment.

What is the life expectancy of a fresh baked cookie compared to the entire prep time? That includes all the processes. From growing the grain, raising the cane, down the line to actually mixing them in a bowl and baking. See what I mean?


29 posted on 12/12/2010 12:00:34 PM PST by bigheadfred (STAND IN THE CLOSET AND SCREAM WITH ME)
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To: allmost

Yeah, it’d be interesting to see the math that says ripples from a previous aeon could somehow survive into this one.


30 posted on 12/12/2010 12:02:31 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
No evidence of doing time before Big Bang -

Sing Sing hadn`t been sung yet.

31 posted on 12/12/2010 12:25:25 PM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: SunkenCiv; betty boop; Alamo-Girl

Fascinating . . .

time before time . . .


32 posted on 12/12/2010 12:47:03 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Doc Savage

It´s possible that God cares for many life forms throughout the universe; particularly those that have abstracted information from their environment thus to know Him.


33 posted on 12/12/2010 1:11:01 PM PST by onedoug
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To: GeronL
didn’t a guy win a Nobel prize for that “discovery” they are casting doubt on??

One reason that is unlikely is that IIRC Nobels are supposed to be given for discoveries that might have some practical application.

34 posted on 12/12/2010 1:24:35 PM PST by wideminded
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To: Doc Savage

>>Very strange.

Even stranger when one considers that Time is a derivative function of state-change that progresses relative to E within the inertial frame(s) in which it is observed.

As E approaches infinity an eternity could pass within a single blink of an unmoved eye...


35 posted on 12/12/2010 2:20:44 PM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks for the ping. This seems to have kind of a high duhh factor to me.


36 posted on 12/12/2010 2:30:17 PM PST by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: LibWhacker
No evidence of Time before Big Bang

No, but I think Newsweek was around.

37 posted on 12/12/2010 2:33:03 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Quix

I’ve got a recent magazine around here (somewhere) with an article about the search for traces of the previous universe.


38 posted on 12/12/2010 2:34:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Kevmo

My pleasure. :’)


39 posted on 12/12/2010 2:37:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: MHGinTN

I haven’t gobbled any fire lately. Doesn’t settle very well in my stomach.


40 posted on 12/12/2010 3:46:01 PM PST by dr_who
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