Posted on 11/24/2010 10:49:49 AM PST by BluesDuke
Who cares ... Go Sox !
The author’s an idiot. Derek Jeter has limited range, and has evolved into a singles hitter. He has been handsomely (excessively?) compensated in the past. His salary demands are ridiculous, bordering on obscene.
Serves him right if Jeter ends up with a B on his cap.
'Course the whole thing could just be an arrangement to keep the names Yankees and Jeter front and center on Sportscenter and other sports new outlets.
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Yankee management should send Jeter packing. He is one of the most overrated players in MLB. The Gold Glove award is not a measure of defensive excellence but is instead a measure of a player’s popularity. Jeter is no where close to being the best defensive SS in the AL at this point in his career. He makes the routine plays but has no range.
Yep, baseball is a business. The Yankees could probably get someone fairly good in a trade - most likely an ex-Cub.
He has made some amazing fielding plays throughout his career.
But his Gold Glove for 2010 was undeserved.
I’m sure they’ll eventually settle on a four year deal.
Jeter is chapped because A-Rod’s contract goes until he’s 42.
But Jeter had a crappy year, and really shouldn’t be the lead-off hitter for the Yanks anymore.
Where else is Jeter going to go?
I like and respect Jeter. But there is no way that at this point in his career he is worth $20 million a year. Now the Yankees might pay it anyway but he sure isn’t worth it. Not when 29 year old Mark Teixeira is making $25 million a year.
It was the players that pushed for this free agency system, and pushed to be paid based on past performance being an indicator of future performance. Now, when the owners -- even of the Yankees -- step back and attempt to negotiate based on the estimated future value of a player, the players -- and many of their apologists among fans -- think this is BS.
But this is the way a free market in labor functions. Buyers try to get the best value they can, sellers try to inflate their value. Anyone who thinks Jeter is entitled to something because of what he has done (and been compensated commensurately for) in the past does not belong on FR, and should instead find a nice Dem socialist club to join instead.
My criticism is of the author, not those who have posted on this thread to date, and
I wrote what I did in #11 as an enormous admirer of how Jeter has conducted his career and what he stands for on the field and in the clubhouse.
the reality is that Jeter will get 17 million per year guaranteed for 3 or 4 years with incentives that might take him to 85+. The Steinbrenners are not stupid. There is no way Jeter doesn't get 3000 hits as a Yankee. This Cash BS is nothing more than keeping the METS off the back page.
3000 hits baby. Overrated? NO WAY. 1ST BALLOT HALL OF FAMER.
Stats show his defense is below the norm for the league. As for those (I know you aren’t) bragging on his 3,000 hits - well - sure sounds like a decent time to get rif him to me....
Jeter will be a 1st ballot Hall of Famer. At this point in his career though, his skills are declining fast. The Yanks should sell high and dump him.
Anyone who thinks Jeter is entitled to something because of what he has done (and been compensated commensurately for) in the past does not belong on FR . . .I never once spoke of what Jeter is or isn't entitled to; I spoke, rather, of a consideration he has earned over a long enough and distinguished enough career. If this were just a journeyman player, useful enough but not even close to a Jeter overall, this discussion wouldn't even exist in the first place. Remember what I also wrote above: this isn't the first time the Yankees have proffered symbolic recognition to various players only to behave otherwise. If you would have a strictly business negotiation, it is usually wise to keep it such, even (especially?) in your public rhetoric.
And bear in mind, too, that baseball---if not all professional sports---has a certain distinction above and beyond other businesses: I didn't formulate it, George F. Will did, but nobody has ever paid money to attend a professional team sporting event in order to see the team's owner. There have been owners who were liked, even admired---offhand, I can think of Joan Payson (the original owner of the Mets), Tom Yawkey (Boston Red Sox), Gene Autry (the Los Angeles/California Angels), Peter O'Malley (Los Angeles Dodgers, who was liked quite a bit more than his father seems to have been oftimes), Nolan Ryan (how close he came this year to becoming the first man in baseball history to win a World Series as a player and as an owner!), and Bill Veeck (Cleveland Indians, St. Louis Browns, Chicago White Sox---to paraphrase an old saying, nobody liked Veeck but the people, and his players)---but even those owners couldn't say the people were buying their way into the ballparks to see them.
(Caveat: The only known exception in my lifetime has been, strangely enough, Yankee fans of the 1980s who finally hoped for a chance to heap abuse on George Steinbrenner because of his mis- and/or mal-management of the team in those years . . . right up to the evening they gave a standing ovation, beginning down the right field line and slowly swelling around the entire ballpark, when the news broke that Steinbrenner had been banished from baseball by then-commissioner Fay Vincent, over the Howard Spira/Dave Winfield contretemps, and probably wished only that Steinbrenner had been in the ballpark so he could hear firsthand just what those fans thought of how he'd brought the Yankees at the time to one of the lowest points in their history.)
As a guy who learned to hate the Yankees in the early 60’s, all I can say is...I still do.
Lee lives in Arkansas. 40 minutes from Rangers Ballpark will get you to Mesquite on I-30. From there it's another 5 hours east to Lee's home in Arkansas. Now I'm not sure what else the author may have blatantly wrong.
And, ARod is a better hitter, HR hitter and better DEFENSIVE player at ANY infield spot.
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