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The fall of Phaethon: a Greco-Roman geomyth preserves the memory of a meteorite impact in Bavaria
Antiquity ^ | v84 n324 | Rappengluck et al (seven authors, full list below)

Posted on 10/19/2010 3:53:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Arguing from a critical reading of the text, and scientific evidence on the ground, the authors show that the myth of Phaethon -- the delinquent celestial charioteer -- remembers the impact of a massive meteorite that hit the Chiemgau region in Bavaria between 2000 and 428 BC.

Keywords: Bronze Age, Phaethon, Ovid, meteorite, Celts, myth

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: altoetting; altoettingchiemgau; andreasneumair; barbararappengluck; bavaria; catastrophism; celts; chiemgau; chiemgauimpact; dirksudhaus; gauls; germany; godsgravesglyphs; ioannisliritzis; kordernstson; lakechiemsee; michaelarappengluck; ovid; phaethon; rappengluck; therebellands; wernermayer
full list of authors: Barbara Rappenglück, Michael A. Rappenglück, Kord Ernstson, Werner Mayer, Andreas Neumair, Dirk Sudhaus, and Ioannis Liritzis.

full title: "The fall of Phaethon: a Greco-Roman geomyth preserves the memory of a meteorite impact in Bavaria (south-east Germany)"
1 posted on 10/19/2010 3:53:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 10/19/2010 3:54:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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3 posted on 10/19/2010 3:54:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Didn’t know they had Dusenbergs back then.


4 posted on 10/19/2010 5:01:14 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon; SunkenCiv

For those of us unable or unwilling to pay-per-view, a resource.

http://www.chiemgau-impact.com/vortraege.html


5 posted on 10/19/2010 6:15:25 PM PDT by bigheadfred (wogga la hooga)
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To: decimon

;’) Hey, if there had been, they’s still be driveable.


6 posted on 10/19/2010 6:37:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: bigheadfred

Ohh, I like that. Thanks bhf.


7 posted on 10/19/2010 6:38:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: SunkenCiv
...between 2000 and 428 BC

Well, that narrows it down. :)

8 posted on 10/19/2010 6:43:52 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I’m sure glad they added the BC. Nice when you get to the top of the hill and you can at least see the ballpark in the hazy distance.


9 posted on 10/19/2010 6:48:55 PM PDT by bigheadfred (wogga la hooga)
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To: SunkenCiv

no idea how directly derived this is from ancient greek, but

As Pheaton looked down from this great height, his head grew dizzy and he felt sick in his stomach. With the furious horses of fire running madly before him, Phaeton wished he had never set foot in his father’s chariot. Now the chariot was speeding head-long toward the gigantic Scorpion. The huge monster raised its tail in an attempt to slash out with is stinger. Then the fear-struck boy completely dropped the reins and the unchecked horses galloped downwards.

Closer and closer the fiery chariot came to the Earth. Rivers began to dry up, cities and forest caught fire because of the great heat. Neptune raised his head from the sea and shook his trident angrily at the chariot of the sun. But the air was so hot that Neptune soon dove back into the seep blue sea. As the chariot crossed the continent of Africa it was so close that it set on fire the great Sahara forest. That wooded region of northern Africa was reduced to ashes and burning sands.

All creatures began to cry to Zeus for help because of the unbearable heat. The gods. the humans, the animals, and the Earth herself were afraid that everything would soon be burned up. Zeus listened to their plea and then he climbed on high. He was armed with a thunderbolt and he threw the deadly shaft at the chariot of the sun. The magic oil Apollo had put on Phaeton protected the boy from the heat and the flames of the chariot, but it could not save him from a thunderbolt of Zeus. There was a deafening crash as the lightening shattered the chariot and Phaeton fell wrapped in sizzling flames. The horses ran home while pieces of the wrecked chariot fell hissing into the sea.

Quickly the master craftsman of the gods, Vulcan, made a new golden chariot for the sun. But Apollo was so sad over his son’s death that he refused to drive it. So the next day passed without sunlight.Zeus and the other gods then came and pleaded with Apollo, begging him not to leave the world in darkness. the sun god spoke bitterly of his son’s death at the hand of Zeus.”

comet deviates into northern sky moving across certain constellations, causes burning in north africa (this should be verifiable, I have no idea if it is realistic for an impact that came down in europe), explodes, enough dust thrown up that dark the next day.


10 posted on 10/19/2010 6:54:04 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: WoofDog123

kewl...


11 posted on 10/20/2010 12:43:53 AM PDT by marsh2
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To: Mr. Jeeves

CLINE: “Look, all I know is that so far, Yappi has provided more solid, concrete leads on this case than you have. Now, if you don’t mind, I have to get an A.P.B. out on a white male, age seventeen to thirty-four, with or without a beard, maybe a tattoo... who’s impotent. Let’s go.”


12 posted on 10/20/2010 6:09:38 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: WoofDog123
Thanks, that was nice! There's also an explanation in Plato:
Thereupon an aged priest said to him: 'O Solon, Solon, you Hellenes are ever young, and there is no old man who is a Hellene.' 'What do you mean?' he asked. 'In mind,' replied the priest, 'I mean to say that you are children; there is no opinion or tradition of knowledge among you which is white with age; and I will tell you why. Like the rest of mankind you have suffered from convulsions of nature, which are chiefly brought about by the two great agencies of fire and water. The former is symbolized in the Hellenic tale of young Phaethon who drove his father's horses the wrong way, and having burnt up the earth was himself burnt up by a thunderbolt. For there occurs at long intervals a derangement of the heavenly bodies, and then the earth is destroyed by fire. [Timaeus, by Plato, tr by Benjamin Jowett, entered by Sue Asscher]

13 posted on 10/20/2010 6:13:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: decimon

It's a Deusy!

14 posted on 10/21/2010 3:53:17 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker
It's a Deusy!

Sure had style.

15 posted on 10/21/2010 5:37:07 PM PDT by decimon
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16 posted on 06/29/2015 11:03:45 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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