Are You Working Too Much Overtime?

Dave Ramsey Web Site ^ | 10 Jun 2010 | Dave Ramsey

[CSM]

“For example?”

By purposefully leaving off the final sentence of the quote.

[CSM]

You really have misrepresented the article, as well as misrepresenting Dave Ramsey.

Personally, I work at a large corporation. As a result, I would be very at risk for the scenario you describe. However, I have survived YEARS of cuts. At the same time, I have set boundaries. How?

First, whenever cuts occured, I was the ONE person in my section to volunteer to take on the extra work. Now, I have about 3 times as much responsibility as my average peer. I am good enough to carry such a load and it has become clear to management in my department. The result? While everyone else’s wage is stagnant, I have been promoted and have received other raises.

Now, we have a major project that needs to be handled. By major, I mean extremely important. Important enought that a failure would result in shutting down several manufacturing plants for at least 8 months. Naturally, management looked at who they could “count on” to do it and asked that I lead the effort.

So, with that new project, I knew that I would not be able to be EFFECTIVE with my other responsibilities AND the project. I listed out all of the open items across the full spectrum of my responsibilities and had a very honest discussion with my manager. I presented the anticipated workload issues and suggested solutions. My suggestions were appreciated and implemented.

The point is that you must first make yourself valuable to your manager. Second, you must be willing to have open dialogue with management regarding any workload issues. Third you must propose solutions with any of the discussions.

And yes, they don’t care that I FReep. It actually allows for me to do my job more effectively.

[LomanBill]

That’s not a half-truth.

“In 2004, Ramsey’s column was dropped from The Tennessean and four other newspapers owned by Gannett, Co. after it was discovered that the identities of those seeking help were duplicated or falsified in several of his columns.”

That’s a WHOLE truth.

Ramsey’s column wasn’t being written by Ramsey - but by a “a low-level employee”

That’s another WHOLE truth.

 

 

Next?

[longtermmemmory]

Ramsey gets it wrong too often. ie call your credit card company and tell them you will pay them when you have money. suuuuuure. the account goes into collection and the collection agency takes over.

[LomanBill]

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>>I have survived YEARS of cuts.

 

So has Mahmud. 

 

Now Mahmud works on Wall Street.  ENRON was a great place for him to be "trained" by The Company.

 

>>I listed out all of the open items across the full spectrum of my responsibilities and had a very honest discussion with my manager.]

 

Your scenario presumes having an "honest" manager.

 

Mahmud does not have an honest manager.

 

In fact Mahmud's manager's manager's managers, having vested interests in offshore labor, have additional ulterior motives...

 

That's how it works in the financial industry; the "industry" that produced the multi-hundred-TRILLION dollar wad of derivative a$$paper that's presently still floating in the global economic pond.

 

And Affinity Fraud?  Nothing like "Free" advice to set the hook among gullible sheeple.

 

NO SALE.

[LomanBill]

>>You really have misrepresented the article

No, I’ve shared my personal observation of REALITY.

If that doesn’t increase Dave Ramsey’s (or which ever subordinate employee happens to be writing “Dave Ramsey’s” column this week) readership, or his “university” enrollment.... TOUGH.

[LomanBill]

[the account goes into collection and the collection agency takes over.]

 

Uhuh. 

 

And predators in "The Bidness" would NEVER collude to eat the whole fish once it starts sending out the "Helloooo... ping ping ping... I'm a floundering stupid fish - come eat the rest of me" signals....

 

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Some of us were gifted with COMMON SENSE by our family... and don't need to acquire it via "Free" advice. 

 

Mere COMMON SENSE and suspicion of EVERY chunk of "free" bait floating past - that is what's kept cop-kid LEO spawn like me swimming happily in the stream - instead of in the frying pan.   Thanks Dad (and friends)!

[CSM]

“Next?”

You left off the very next sentence, again. Whatever your personal grudge is against Dave Ramsey is still left unsaid.

I don’t need your approval and neither does Dave. I wish you the best in life, but will now be ignoring your attacks against Dave.

[CSM]

“call your credit card company and tell them you will pay them when you have money.”

He only advises a delay in payment for CC bills when a person does not have the money to pay them. This is to ensure that people keep food, shelter and utilities as a priority. It is a reminder that we should not let collectors use our emotions to get a payment at the expense of a rent or mortgage payment.

[CSM]

“No, I’ve shared my personal observation of REALITY.”

You can change your reality, which is the focus of the article. I provided an example of a situation that fits the article, admittedly from my own reality. If you have no interest in it, then fine, however there is no reason to derail others.

[longtermmemmory]

NO on his radio show he said that as if the credit card company would wait and not take any further action. It was HORRIBLE advice.

[CSM]

Which day and segment? I listen to every one of his shows and I am not recalling any call that addressed the issue without the caveate that I posted previously. I’d like to listen to the specific call you are referencing.

[LomanBill]

1. How long did the affinity fraud of James Paul Lewis Jr. go undetected.... among his fellow/subordinate religionists in the LDS?

 

2. What would other Lewis-like predators say about groups of desperate sheeple; folks who essentialy self-identify themselves as being financially, ehem, challenged -  conveniently gathered together into parish hall rooms under a big banner that says, effectively : "Hellooo we DON'T HAVE COMMON SENSE, we're here to "learn" it - for "free"?

 

 

Answers: (1) over 20 years.   (2) Yummy!  It's feeeeding Time!

 

 

SO, I'd expect that learning to  DISCERN wolves like Lewis from GOOD TEACHERS, would be one of the first subjects addressed by educators/leaders who allegedly have the financial best interests of members of the Body of Christ in mind. 

 

It's just common sense... to me anyhow.

[LomanBill]

>>You left off the very next sentence, again.

So the lipstick you want to paint the pig with - is that the faked column, to which Ramsey’s name was affixed, wasn’t written by him? LOL.  Okay you go ahead and run with that.  Oink Oink.

 

[longtermmemmory]

it was this past sunday and I was driving. don’t ask which station.

[CSM]

Hmm, he doesn’t have a live show on Sundays, so I will assume that it was a re-airing of Friday’s show. I’m only about a half hour in on that one. I look forward to it.