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Palin DOES NOT want to be worshipped (why are people saying that ?)

Posted on 07/29/2010 8:49:11 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative

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To: rob777; mkjessup; indylindy; MaggieCarta; deport; Melas

” BTW, not only has she supported Carbon Credits, but she created a sub-cabinet to deal specifically with climate change.

Take a look at Appendix C Administrative Order 238 Establishing the Alaska Climate Change Sub-Cabinet which former governor palin ordered in Sep 2007. Two items in particular:

9. the potential benefits of Alaska participating in regional, national, and international climate policy agreements and greenhouse gas registries 13. the opportunities for Alaska to participate in carbon-trading markets, including the offering of carbon sequestration; “

Thanks for the info. I’m not surprised either. Look up her record on the “ bridge to nowhere” her advocacy of it, how she flip flopped on it when it went public, and how she kept and spent the money. More like Ted Kennedy than a conservative.


201 posted on 08/01/2010 6:53:44 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
"More like Ted Kennedy than a conservative."


She seems to be more of a populist than ideologically liberal or conservative. Sometimes her populism causes her to lean right and sometimes it causes her to lean left. Even when she takes a position which lines her up with the left, the rationale for taking such a position is devoid of the ideological considerations that characterizes leftist thought.
202 posted on 08/01/2010 7:26:56 AM PDT by rob777
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To: rob777; mkjessup

LOST

Carbon credits

Amnesty

McCain

Fiorina

I don’t care what her ideological bend is. I won’t vote for this!


203 posted on 08/01/2010 8:30:40 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
"I don’t care what her ideological bend is. I won’t vote for this!"


Agreed, she is far too inconsistent for conservatives to make her their leader.
204 posted on 08/01/2010 9:53:38 AM PDT by rob777
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative; Brices Crossroads
As I said. I go overboard sometimes. Give me a break please.

Break given. I honestly was young once, although it becomes harder to remember every year. Keep your passion for what you believe in. One day we might even agree on a candidate you're passionate about. We just don't agree about this one. For what it's worth, I admire your sacrifice for your daughters. I stayed home with my children for almost 14 years while my wife worked. I occasionally caught flak for it, as you will too, but it was a matter of simple economics. We firmly believed that they needed a parent at home, and she had a much more established career. So peace. I like the ideals that Palin represents to you. My argument is that I don't think she can deliver, not that I doubt her intentions. If I'm wrong, and there is more behind those eyes than I can see, then fantastic, I'll be glad to be wrong. I just don't see it. Since you've been forthright,honest and man enough to admit your own short comings, I think it's important that you know that I don't oppose her out of malice. Brices Crossroads actually got me thinking a week or so ago. Would I have supported Reagan in 1980, if I'd have been of age to care? Would I have dismissed him as a pretty boy actor with no depth? I don't know. I never had the opportunity.

205 posted on 08/02/2010 11:00:37 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Melas; se_ohio_young_conservative

“Would I have supported Reagan in 1980, if I’d have been of age to care? Would I have dismissed him as a pretty boy actor with no depth? I don’t know. I never had the opportunity.”

Those are some of the “what ifs?” we all ask ourselves from time to time. I know many people my age who did not support Reagan in 1976 or 1980 who either thought he was unelectable or too shallow (the acting thing) and they are, and were, just as conservative as I. History had to have its say before we knew. And there were many points at which Reagan could have chosen another path:

I often wonder, and Craig Shirley speculates in his book, that had Ford been more solicitous of Reagan during 1974 and 1975 if Reagan would have even run in 1976. If Ford had taken a few minor steps like meeting with Solzhenitsyn and choosing a more conservative VP, it is quite probable that Reagan’s disinclination to attack his own Party and its President would have prevailed. If he had not run in 1976, there would have been no 1980 campaign. A first time candidate at 69? Not likely.

Similarly, if Reagan (who had been beaten in five straight primaries in 1976) had lost the sixth in North Carolina, he would have withdrawn, a miserably failed candidate who would not have had the credibility to run in 1980.

If these (or a multitude of other “what ifs?”)had occurred, Reagan would never have been President. He would still be a fine man, who had great potential, but it would be impossible for me or countless others, who had real faith in him from 1968 on, to prove that he would have been a great President. It would have been just as plausible to contend that he was a former actor who had an uneventful two terms in Sacramento and then disappeared. Not much different from his friend George Murphy.

Watching politics for a number of years has had the paradoxical effect of increasing my faith that God is actually directing these events.

SEYC: Your passion is commendable. I sometimes go overboard myself, even at my advanced age. I hope no one takes great offense LOL. I remember being so furious in 1976 when Ford took the nomination away from Reagan by what I considered to be underhanded means(withholding $2 million in federal matching funds to Reagan’s campaign during the primaries that cost him delegates in New Jersey, Michigan, Kentucky and Wisconsin that probably would have given him the nomination)that I switched my registration to independent for a brief period (although I wound up voting for Ford)


206 posted on 08/03/2010 6:46:46 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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Agreed. Also, I’ve always firmly believed, that despite the failing economy, oil crisis, et al, there wouldn’t have been a Reagan if Carter hadn’t been such a miserable failure at dealing with the Iran hostage crisis. Carter’s missteps there really sealed his fate.


207 posted on 08/03/2010 7:14:25 AM PDT by Melas
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To: Brices Crossroads; Melas; se_ohio_young_conservative
“Would I have supported Reagan in 1980, if I’d have been of age to care? Would I have dismissed him as a pretty boy actor with no depth? I don’t know. I never had the opportunity.”

I did support Reagan in 1980--and in 1976, and in 1968. I knew Craig Shirley when he was working out of a small low-rent office in an old building on Wilshire Blvd. in Los Angeles. No, I'm not in his book, unfortunately--or perhaps, fortunately. I was also at the RNC at Kansas City in 1976.

208 posted on 08/03/2010 1:10:07 PM PDT by Taft in '52
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To: Taft in '52

In 1968 I supported animal crackers, especially the lions because I just felt bad-assed at that age when I bit the lion’s head off.


209 posted on 08/03/2010 1:54:13 PM PDT by Melas
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Animal crackers?! Every good conservative knows that the only choice in 1968 was vanilla wafers. ;^)
210 posted on 08/03/2010 3:29:46 PM PDT by FourPeas (God Save America)
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To: Melas

“Carter’s missteps there really sealed his fate.”

The stars were in alignment for him in 1980, no doubt about that. But right up until the debate, Carter had the edge. Hard to believe, but true according to Pat Caddell and Dick Wirthlin.


211 posted on 08/03/2010 3:51:51 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: Melas
In 1968 I supported animal crackers, especially the lions because I just felt bad-assed at that age when I bit the lion’s head off.

I don't recall animal crackers, but I do remember animal cookies--I believe they were made with vanilla and shortbread and put out by Nabisco. They weren't all animals--one of them was a soldier playing a drum. However, I argued with my mother that it wasn't a soldier but a milk truck, since it resembled such vehicles, which stopped by our house each morning (I guess I've just admitted that I'm not a member of Generation X or Y, or a Millenial).

212 posted on 08/04/2010 5:44:50 PM PDT by Taft in '52
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