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Reporter who sailed with Abby Sunderland shares perspective
Pete Thomas Outdoors ^ | June 16, 2010 | Pete Thomas

Posted on 06/17/2010 7:18:48 PM PDT by GatorGirl

I don't know Abby Sunderland as well as those close to her, but I think I know her better than other reporters and columnists know her.

I've interviewed the Thousand Oaks teenager several times, and before she set out to chase a dream and try to circle the planet on a 40-foot yacht, I sailed with her through the night aboard that yacht, Wild Eyes, which by now probably rests at the bottom of the Indian Ocean.

Same goes for Abby's older brother, Zac. While working for the Los Angeles Times, I followed his 13-month around-the-world odyssey from the beginning, providing frequent blog posts and newspaper updates.

And yes, I've met the parents, and the brothers and sisters. I never became close to the family; my interactions were all during story assignments. But I gained some insight that other reporters and columnists do not have as they digest and regurgitate information regarding Abby's recent rescue, after Wild Eyes was slammed in heavy seas between Africa and Australia.

Thus, because Abby and her family have become such a curiosity and so glaring a target, here are a few observations, quotes and anecdotes that might provide a better understanding of Abby, 16, and the sailing Sunderlands:

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To: GatorGirl

I don’t know which “camp” is correct in the argument of youngsters doing dangerous things like sailing. But it did call to my mind the Jessica Dubroff tragedy where the 7 year old was trying to fly around the globe and died.


21 posted on 06/18/2010 6:10:02 AM PDT by Lawgvr1955 (You can never have too much cowbell !!)
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To: bvw; Oztrich Boy
envy and jealousy that some are applying in this case.

I find it astonishing that you think people are envious and jealous because they clearly see that this trip was not well planned and Abby not experienced enough to do this.

Did you know that Jessica Watson collided with another boat and was dismasted? She got her boat back into harbor. What did Abby do? Nothing. She hit emergency beacons and left her deck littered. Can you not see the difference between the 2 sailors?

22 posted on 06/18/2010 6:26:30 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Likewise, using your “logic” I must be awful tired of the airline pilots who simply cannot land a distressed jet on the Hudson river with no loss of life.


23 posted on 06/18/2010 7:31:03 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
That wasn't a 16 year old that landed that plane and has NOTHING to do with hurriedly sending a kid out that hasn't enough training and there's a lack of preparation.

Address what I said. Can you not see the difference between the 2 sailors?

24 posted on 06/18/2010 7:36:31 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Look up “90 day wonder”. Get some historical perspective, please!


25 posted on 06/18/2010 7:41:32 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

Again you dance around it. Jessica was dismasted and dealt with it. Abby didn’t know what to do and quit. Can you not see the difference between the 2 sailors?


26 posted on 06/18/2010 7:46:52 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Ma’am, each made the decision they determined was the best in their circumstance.


27 posted on 06/18/2010 8:20:46 AM PDT by bvw
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To: GatorGirl
It’s a symptom of America these days. Seek fame and fortune instead of doing something purely for the love of adventure.

Nah. What's a symptom of America these days is to sit and gripe from the couch when other people do more interesting things with their lives than we do.

28 posted on 06/18/2010 8:28:32 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: bvw

Abby didn’t either know enough or couldn’t cut away her mast. Nor did she clean her deck as she left “foot traps” all over. That is not a knowledgeable sailor. What if she had caught her foot in that mess and gone overboard while waiting for rescue? This young girl may know how to sail but not well enough to attempt this trip.


29 posted on 06/18/2010 8:32:07 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Ramius; GatorGirl
In case you missed it, in post 19, GatorGirl went sailing. I may not go sailing but I do have a LOT of work to do.

I hope the rest of your day is productive too. :-)

30 posted on 06/18/2010 8:47:51 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

You think you know more then she did. You do not. I suggest that you revoke your membership in the Monday Morning Quarterbacks, Nitpickers, and Second Guessers Association.


31 posted on 06/18/2010 10:02:56 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

You can insult all that you want. It’s childish and doesn’t change facts. When faced with the same challenges as Watson, Abby couldn’t do it.


32 posted on 06/18/2010 10:10:14 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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My grandad used to have his walls covered with pictures like this, ships in distress at sea. The other theme of reproduction prints he had where pastorals, like:

The sea ...

33 posted on 06/18/2010 10:41:15 AM PDT by bvw
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To: DJ MacWoW
To be fair, you should note that Jessica's dismasting was from a collision just outside a busy harbor while she slept. This was before her actual journey began and she was escorted to shore by rescue craft as well as fellow boaters.
34 posted on 06/18/2010 11:00:36 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/06/15/2927311.htm


35 posted on 06/18/2010 11:06:57 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: bvw

Very nice. It has nothing to do with Abby’s lack of skill but the paintings are very nice.


36 posted on 06/18/2010 11:22:35 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Old Professer
Did Watson sail the ship back to port or did someone do it for her? Abby had to put into port twice and both times Daddy flew there to help her. Look what the article that you posted says :

Watson's yacht Ella's Pink Lady was dismasted as a result of the collision, but Watson was able to cut the headsail free, retrieve the mast, the mainsail and the rigging on board and motor the damaged yacht to Southport on the Gold Coast.

Abby left hers dangle.

Watson, now 17, arrived in Sydney last month after circumnavigating the globe, alone and unassisted, in seven months.

Once Abby's sat phone was done, so was she. Abby didn't have enough experience to do this.

Watson also had wild winds, large swells and several knockdowns but she had experience.

37 posted on 06/18/2010 11:39:41 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Abby is a very skilled sailor from a family of skilled sailors. She sailed more than halfway around the world. That is the evidence to her skill.

Oh. I remember a point I would like to make.

The sea is harsh. Abbey learned that lesson more than the Ozzie girl, imo.

Who will be better the better sailor now? My understanding of human nature says — Abbey. The Ozzie girl is being force fed hubris fro what I gather per your postings. Hubris and the Sea do not get along.

Abbey was humbled by the Sea, a proper lesson!


38 posted on 06/18/2010 11:40:31 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
She sailed more than halfway around the world.

And Daddy had to come and help her twice. She had to stop twice because of equipment failure and she couldn't deal with it.

Abbey learned that lesson more than the Ozzie girl, imo.

Abby learned that tech toys won't get you around the world but actual training will.

The Ozzie girl is being force fed hubris fro what I gather per your postings.

Watson reads my posts?

39 posted on 06/18/2010 12:21:35 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: bvw
Abby is a very skilled sailor from a family of skilled sailors. She sailed more than halfway around the world. That is the evidence to her skill luck.

2. She herself says that she saw winds greater than 40 knots just once. Once. And what happened?

1. A leisurely family cruise from California to Baja California does not a "family of skilled sailors" make.

Then there is the question of understanding what she would face. Just how many Round the World sailors did she talk to before she set out? How many did RTW below the Great Capes?

40 posted on 06/18/2010 12:40:49 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (a 16 year old Australian girl already did it. And she did it right. - WWJD)
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