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Can world's largest laser zap Earth's energy woes?
cnn ^ | April 28, 2010 | John D. Sutter

Posted on 05/03/2010 11:05:02 AM PDT by JoeProBono

Livermore, California (CNN) -- Scientists at a government lab here are trying to use the world's largest laser -- it's the size of three football fields -- to set off a nuclear reaction so intense that it will make a star bloom on the surface of the Earth.

The Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory's formula for cooking up a sun on the ground may sound like it's stolen from the plot of an "Austin Powers" movie. But it's no Hollywood fantasy: The ambitious experiment will be tried for real, and for the first time, late this summer.

If they're successful, the scientists hope to solve the global energy crisis by harnessing the energy generated by the mini-star.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: energy; jpb; laser; star; stringtheory
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1 posted on 05/03/2010 11:05:02 AM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

Don’t a lot of “end of the world” sci-fi movies start that way?


2 posted on 05/03/2010 11:08:24 AM PDT by JimRed (To water the Tree of Liberty is to excise a cancer before it kills us. TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

Uh, what could possibly go wrong?


3 posted on 05/03/2010 11:08:50 AM PDT by refermech
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To: JoeProBono

“to set off a nuclear reaction so intense that it will make a star bloom on the surface of the Earth”

I’ll take “Theories that need not be tested” for $2000, Alex.


4 posted on 05/03/2010 11:09:30 AM PDT by nhoward14 (A mind is a terrible thing to waste. That is why Obama gave his away.)
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To: JoeProBono

...or cut the planet in half.

Either way our energy worries are over!


5 posted on 05/03/2010 11:10:43 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: JoeProBono

I actually worked on this things cousin back in the 80’s at LLNL.

It was an amazing piece of tech even then.

Cheers,

knewshound


6 posted on 05/03/2010 11:11:11 AM PDT by knews_hound (Credo Quia Absurdium--take nothing seriously unless it is absurd. E. Clampus Vitus)
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To: JoeProBono; SunkenCiv; KevinDavis; writer33

What bad could happen with a man-made sun on the Earth??

Is it Bye Bye California?


7 posted on 05/03/2010 11:11:59 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
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To: JoeProBono

Waiting for Dr. Evil and images from that 80’s movie with Val Kilmer where the house gets hit with the laser from an airplane and the house is full of popcorn kernels.....


8 posted on 05/03/2010 11:12:08 AM PDT by GQuagmire ( We are no longer Massholes)
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To: JimRed
OMG We’re all going to die!!!!

Cue the little cartoon figure running around.

9 posted on 05/03/2010 11:12:49 AM PDT by Pontiac
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To: JoeProBono

Still unresolved is the question of how to attach this sucker to a shark’s head.


10 posted on 05/03/2010 11:12:52 AM PDT by nhoward14 (A mind is a terrible thing to waste. That is why Obama gave his away.)
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To: JoeProBono

Harness the energy of a star. Okee dokeeeee


11 posted on 05/03/2010 11:12:55 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: GeronL

“You say it like it’s a bad thing.”


12 posted on 05/03/2010 11:13:04 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: nhoward14

How much power does it take to run the facility and fire up the laser?

Everyone thinks that electricity is free and somehow using it to run “green” solutions is “green”.


13 posted on 05/03/2010 11:14:02 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The hysteria of Matthewsism and Andersonism has led to a Tea Party Scare that is unAmerican.)
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To: Pontiac
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14 posted on 05/03/2010 11:14:15 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: GeronL
What bad could happen with a man-made sun on the Earth??

Don't worry, these things will work out. Some other scientists are working on creating mini-black holes on Earth.

15 posted on 05/03/2010 11:14:48 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The hysteria of Matthewsism and Andersonism has led to a Tea Party Scare that is unAmerican.)
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To: JoeProBono
Can world's largest laser zap Earth's energy woes?

NO because of the Second Law of Thermodynamics.

16 posted on 05/03/2010 11:16:27 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President)
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To: JoeProBono

Correct me if I’m wrong but this is just dramatic language describing nuclear fusion. Princeton’s been trying and failing to make it a reality for many decades. They always put in more energy to maintain the reaction than they are able to get out of the reaction. There was a mild concern that fission would do the same thing people are worried about here in the thread (blow up the air and all the world in a chain reaction). I don’t know the science but I’m thinking we aren’t that powerful. Suns have to be BIG to get the reaction going. Not a tiny thing in a tiny vessel (relatively speaking).


17 posted on 05/03/2010 11:16:37 AM PDT by Mere Survival (Mere Survival: The new American Dream)
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To: SJSAMPLE
Right! My ex-Mother-in-Law lives in San Francisco.

I am looking for a down-side to this...I really am not addicted to Sour Dough.

18 posted on 05/03/2010 11:16:49 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (RAT Hunting Season started the evening of March 21st, 2010!)
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To: JimRed

19 posted on 05/03/2010 11:17:19 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: nhoward14; Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows
Still unresolved is the question of how to attach this sucker to a shark’s head.

Scientists at a government lab here are trying to use the world's largest laser -- it's the size of three football fields...

I think we're gonna need a bigger shark.

20 posted on 05/03/2010 11:17:34 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The hysteria of Matthewsism and Andersonism has led to a Tea Party Scare that is unAmerican.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Maybe the mini-black hole will swallow the man-made sun?

Then again it’d have to go through the planet.


21 posted on 05/03/2010 11:18:11 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
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To: GeronL

We need a panel to investigate man-made global astronomy.


22 posted on 05/03/2010 11:19:55 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The hysteria of Matthewsism and Andersonism has led to a Tea Party Scare that is unAmerican.)
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To: a fool in paradise

23 posted on 05/03/2010 11:20:01 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono
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24 posted on 05/03/2010 11:23:38 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: GQuagmire
that 80’s movie with Val Kilmer where the house gets hit with the laser from an airplane and the house is full of popcorn kernels.....

That was "Real Genius."

25 posted on 05/03/2010 11:23:41 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("I can see November from my house!")
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To: a fool in paradise

No wonder aliens are staying away... they probably know humans are nuts


26 posted on 05/03/2010 11:23:55 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Thank you. Too lazy to Google...


27 posted on 05/03/2010 11:29:11 AM PDT by GQuagmire ( We are no longer Massholes)
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To: JoeProBono

Funny....this was the Subject of my 1980 Master’s thesis:
“Fusion by laser implosion”, was the end state for U.S. energy independence by the year 2005......


28 posted on 05/03/2010 11:30:23 AM PDT by G Larry (DNC is comprised of REGRESSIVES!)
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To: JoeProBono

For the past 50 years, a practical fusion power plant has been ten years away, or so I’ve read. I’m so disappointed.


29 posted on 05/03/2010 11:30:54 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: refermech; JimRed
Better bring the “SEA VIEW” out of moth balls.

We’re going to need it after this thing ignites the atmosphere.

the USOS Sea View.

30 posted on 05/03/2010 11:31:45 AM PDT by Pontiac
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To: rightwingcrazy

That, and flying cars.


31 posted on 05/03/2010 11:31:54 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: autumnraine

Thanks

I needed that.


32 posted on 05/03/2010 11:32:17 AM PDT by Pontiac
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To: GQuagmire

YW (even lazier...)


33 posted on 05/03/2010 11:33:24 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("I can see November from my house!")
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To: JimRed
"Don’t a lot of “end of the world” sci-fi movies start that way?"

Nope....but they end that way.

34 posted on 05/03/2010 11:33:59 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: JoeProBono
Question for those that know(if any): How hot does this thing get, miniature sun implies millions of degrees. How does one contain that type of heat. If it doesn't get that hot why are they using hyper BS such as "miniature sun" to describe it? Even so, does it get so hot it will melt anytime of containment vessel, can they cool it down, can they control it at all?

I realize those are questions they should have answered already but then again we are talking about scientist, some of whom believe in global warming.

35 posted on 05/03/2010 11:35:42 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Mikey_1962

The Second Law of Thermodynamics isn’t at issue here - the laser will be used to start a self-sustaining nuclear fusion reaction, not as a source of power.


36 posted on 05/03/2010 11:36:52 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("I can see November from my house!")
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To: autumnraine

37 posted on 05/03/2010 11:38:30 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: calex59
What they don't tell you is that the “heat of the sun” lasts like a billionth of a second. The heat transfer would be manageable.
38 posted on 05/03/2010 11:46:51 AM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Slings and Arrows

The containment of the resultant plasma is at issue and is subject to the second law of thermodynamics as are you and I.


39 posted on 05/03/2010 11:50:01 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President)
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To: Slings and Arrows
a self-sustaining nuclear fusion reaction

The dirty little secret they don't bring up is that fusion power generates radioactive waste too, just less of it. The volume of waste isn't really the problem with conventional nuclear power plants. A fusion plant doesn't just melt down, it goes nova.

40 posted on 05/03/2010 11:50:54 AM PDT by Reeses (All is vanity)
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To: ravingnutter

Yeah, much more fitting to the thread. :o)


41 posted on 05/03/2010 11:52:29 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Redleg Duke
"I really am not addicted to Sour Dough"

Yeah, but what about Rice-A-Roni?

42 posted on 05/03/2010 11:57:11 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Yeah, I was in rehab. I got Hooked on Phonics. Darn that Sesame Street Gang.)
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To: GeronL
What bad could happen with a man-made sun on the Earth??

Is it Bye Bye California?

And that would be a bad thing how?

43 posted on 05/03/2010 12:00:51 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run our of other peoples money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: MNJohnnie

25% of welfare cases would be gone.

We might need to build a new port though


44 posted on 05/03/2010 12:03:02 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
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To: Snickering Hound

I hate it when that happens.


45 posted on 05/03/2010 12:19:40 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Slings and Arrows

46 posted on 05/03/2010 12:51:42 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: knews_hound

Nova???


47 posted on 05/03/2010 1:02:46 PM PDT by thinkin out loud
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To: a fool in paradise

Yeah but we here in ‘green’ California have made up for it by outlawing incandescent bulbs so it shouldn’t be a problem. \s


48 posted on 05/03/2010 1:02:46 PM PDT by thinkin out loud
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To: GeronL
That and a longer FR fundraiser, since we'll need a new server, owner, etc.
49 posted on 05/03/2010 1:11:42 PM PDT by kingu (Favorite Sticker: Lost hope, and Obama took my change.)
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To: knews_hound

Nova???


50 posted on 05/03/2010 1:14:14 PM PDT by thinkin out loud
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