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Can world's largest laser zap Earth's energy woes?
cnn ^
| April 28, 2010
| John D. Sutter
Posted on 05/03/2010 11:05:02 AM PDT by JoeProBono
Livermore, California (CNN) -- Scientists at a government lab here are trying to use the world's largest laser -- it's the size of three football fields -- to set off a nuclear reaction so intense that it will make a star bloom on the surface of the Earth.
The Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory's formula for cooking up a sun on the ground may sound like it's stolen from the plot of an "Austin Powers" movie. But it's no Hollywood fantasy: The ambitious experiment will be tried for real, and for the first time, late this summer.
If they're successful, the scientists hope to solve the global energy crisis by harnessing the energy generated by the mini-star.
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TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: energy; jpb; laser; star; stringtheory
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To: JoeProBono
Don’t a lot of “end of the world” sci-fi movies start that way?
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:08:24 AM PDT
by
JimRed
(To water the Tree of Liberty is to excise a cancer before it kills us. TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
To: JimRed
Uh, what could possibly go wrong?
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:08:50 AM PDT
by
refermech
To: JoeProBono
“to set off a nuclear reaction so intense that it will make a star bloom on the surface of the Earth”
I’ll take “Theories that need not be tested” for $2000, Alex.
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:09:30 AM PDT
by
nhoward14
(A mind is a terrible thing to waste. That is why Obama gave his away.)
To: JoeProBono
...or cut the planet in half.
Either way our energy worries are over!
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:10:43 AM PDT
by
WayneS
(Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
To: JoeProBono
I actually worked on this things cousin back in the 80’s at LLNL.
It was an amazing piece of tech even then.
Cheers,
knewshound
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:11:11 AM PDT
by
knews_hound
(Credo Quia Absurdium--take nothing seriously unless it is absurd. E. Clampus Vitus)
To: JoeProBono; SunkenCiv; KevinDavis; writer33
What bad could happen with a man-made sun on the Earth??
Is it Bye Bye California?
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:11:59 AM PDT
by
GeronL
(http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
To: JoeProBono
Waiting for Dr. Evil and images from that 80’s movie with Val Kilmer where the house gets hit with the laser from an airplane and the house is full of popcorn kernels.....
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:12:08 AM PDT
by
GQuagmire
( We are no longer Massholes)
To: JimRed
OMG Were all going to die!!!!
Cue the little cartoon figure running around.
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:12:49 AM PDT
by
Pontiac
To: JoeProBono
Still unresolved is the question of how to attach this sucker to a shark’s head.
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:12:52 AM PDT
by
nhoward14
(A mind is a terrible thing to waste. That is why Obama gave his away.)
To: JoeProBono
Harness the energy of a star. Okee dokeeeee
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:12:55 AM PDT
by
autumnraine
(America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
To: GeronL
“You say it like it’s a bad thing.”
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:13:04 AM PDT
by
SJSAMPLE
To: nhoward14
How much power does it take to run the facility and fire up the laser?
Everyone thinks that electricity is free and somehow using it to run “green” solutions is “green”.
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:14:02 AM PDT
by
a fool in paradise
(The hysteria of Matthewsism and Andersonism has led to a Tea Party Scare that is unAmerican.)
To: Pontiac
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:14:15 AM PDT
by
autumnraine
(America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
To: GeronL
What bad could happen with a man-made sun on the Earth?? Don't worry, these things will work out. Some other scientists are working on creating mini-black holes on Earth.
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:14:48 AM PDT
by
a fool in paradise
(The hysteria of Matthewsism and Andersonism has led to a Tea Party Scare that is unAmerican.)
To: JoeProBono
Can world's largest laser zap Earth's energy woes?NO because of the Second Law of Thermodynamics.
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:16:27 AM PDT
by
Mikey_1962
(Obama: The Affirmative Action President)
To: JoeProBono
Correct me if I’m wrong but this is just dramatic language describing nuclear fusion. Princeton’s been trying and failing to make it a reality for many decades. They always put in more energy to maintain the reaction than they are able to get out of the reaction. There was a mild concern that fission would do the same thing people are worried about here in the thread (blow up the air and all the world in a chain reaction). I don’t know the science but I’m thinking we aren’t that powerful. Suns have to be BIG to get the reaction going. Not a tiny thing in a tiny vessel (relatively speaking).
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:16:37 AM PDT
by
Mere Survival
(Mere Survival: The new American Dream)
To: SJSAMPLE
Right! My ex-Mother-in-Law lives in San Francisco.
I am looking for a down-side to this...I really am not addicted to Sour Dough.
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:16:49 AM PDT
by
Redleg Duke
(RAT Hunting Season started the evening of March 21st, 2010!)
To: JimRed
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:17:19 AM PDT
by
JoeProBono
(A closed mouth gathers no feet)
To: nhoward14; Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows
Still unresolved is the question of how to attach this sucker to a sharks head.
Scientists at a government lab here are trying to use the world's largest laser -- it's the size of three football fields...
I think we're gonna need a bigger shark.
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:17:34 AM PDT
by
a fool in paradise
(The hysteria of Matthewsism and Andersonism has led to a Tea Party Scare that is unAmerican.)
To: a fool in paradise
Maybe the mini-black hole will swallow the man-made sun?
Then again it’d have to go through the planet.
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:18:11 AM PDT
by
GeronL
(http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
To: GeronL
We need a panel to investigate man-made global astronomy.
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:19:55 AM PDT
by
a fool in paradise
(The hysteria of Matthewsism and Andersonism has led to a Tea Party Scare that is unAmerican.)
To: a fool in paradise
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:20:01 AM PDT
by
JoeProBono
(A closed mouth gathers no feet)
To: JoeProBono
To: GQuagmire
that 80s movie with Val Kilmer where the house gets hit with the laser from an airplane and the house is full of popcorn kernels.....That was "Real Genius."
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:23:41 AM PDT
by
Slings and Arrows
("I can see November from my house!")
To: a fool in paradise
No wonder aliens are staying away... they probably know humans are nuts
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:23:55 AM PDT
by
GeronL
(http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
To: Slings and Arrows
Thank you. Too lazy to Google...
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:29:11 AM PDT
by
GQuagmire
( We are no longer Massholes)
To: JoeProBono
Funny....this was the Subject of my 1980 Master’s thesis:
“Fusion by laser implosion”, was the end state for U.S. energy independence by the year 2005......
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:30:23 AM PDT
by
G Larry
(DNC is comprised of REGRESSIVES!)
To: JoeProBono
For the past 50 years, a practical fusion power plant has been ten years away, or so I’ve read. I’m so disappointed.
To: refermech; JimRed
Better bring the SEA VIEW out of moth balls.
Were going to need it after this thing ignites the atmosphere.
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:31:45 AM PDT
by
Pontiac
To: rightwingcrazy
To: autumnraine
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:32:17 AM PDT
by
Pontiac
To: GQuagmire
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:33:24 AM PDT
by
Slings and Arrows
("I can see November from my house!")
To: JimRed
"Dont a lot of end of the world sci-fi movies start that way?" Nope....but they end that way.
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:33:59 AM PDT
by
Joe 6-pack
(Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
To: JoeProBono
Question for those that know(if any): How hot does this thing get, miniature sun implies millions of degrees. How does one contain that type of heat. If it doesn't get that hot why are they using hyper BS such as "miniature sun" to describe it? Even so, does it get so hot it will melt anytime of containment vessel, can they cool it down, can they control it at all?
I realize those are questions they should have answered already but then again we are talking about scientist, some of whom believe in global warming.
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:35:42 AM PDT
by
calex59
To: Mikey_1962
The Second Law of Thermodynamics isn’t at issue here - the laser will be used to start a self-sustaining nuclear fusion reaction, not as a source of power.
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:36:52 AM PDT
by
Slings and Arrows
("I can see November from my house!")
To: autumnraine
To: calex59
What they don't tell you is that the “heat of the sun” lasts like a billionth of a second. The heat transfer would be manageable.
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:46:51 AM PDT
by
Tallguy
("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
To: Slings and Arrows
The containment of the resultant plasma is at issue and is subject to the second law of thermodynamics as are you and I.
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:50:01 AM PDT
by
Mikey_1962
(Obama: The Affirmative Action President)
To: Slings and Arrows
a self-sustaining nuclear fusion reaction The dirty little secret they don't bring up is that fusion power generates radioactive waste too, just less of it. The volume of waste isn't really the problem with conventional nuclear power plants. A fusion plant doesn't just melt down, it goes nova.
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:50:54 AM PDT
by
Reeses
(All is vanity)
To: ravingnutter
Yeah, much more fitting to the thread. :o)
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:52:29 AM PDT
by
autumnraine
(America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
To: Redleg Duke
"I really am not addicted to Sour Dough"
Yeah, but what about Rice-A-Roni?
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posted on
05/03/2010 11:57:11 AM PDT
by
BipolarBob
(Yeah, I was in rehab. I got Hooked on Phonics. Darn that Sesame Street Gang.)
To: GeronL
What bad could happen with a man-made sun on the Earth?? Is it Bye Bye California?
And that would be a bad thing how?
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posted on
05/03/2010 12:00:51 PM PDT
by
MNJohnnie
(The problem with Socialism is eventually you run our of other peoples money. Lady Thatcher)
To: MNJohnnie
25% of welfare cases would be gone.
We might need to build a new port though
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posted on
05/03/2010 12:03:02 PM PDT
by
GeronL
(http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
To: Snickering Hound
I hate it when that happens.
To: Slings and Arrows
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posted on
05/03/2010 12:51:42 PM PDT
by
JoeProBono
(A closed mouth gathers no feet)
To: knews_hound
To: a fool in paradise
Yeah but we here in ‘green’ California have made up for it by outlawing incandescent bulbs so it shouldn’t be a problem. \s
To: GeronL
That and a longer FR fundraiser, since we'll need a new server, owner, etc.
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posted on
05/03/2010 1:11:42 PM PDT
by
kingu
(Favorite Sticker: Lost hope, and Obama took my change.)
To: knews_hound
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