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Attorney wants Phoebe Prince’s medical records (Mass. bullying case)
Boston Herald ^ | 04/10/10 | Marie Szaniszlo

Posted on 04/11/2010 8:52:46 PM PDT by jerry557

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To: jerry557

I would think the reason they were able to charge those boys with rape was because its illegal to have to underage sex.


81 posted on 04/18/2010 5:52:29 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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How is it “sliming” the victim to see if [and if so show] that she had been dealing with such issues beforehand? It seems to me that the state could open the records and claim that because she did have such a history that the defendants “should have known better” or some such.

It is also EXTREMELY relevant if she accused one of the boys of rape if the medical records [and police records for that matter] show that she had been examined for rape/sexual-abuse at some point before; most especially if those findings were false accusations/reports on her part. {There ARE people who will make false claims against someone.}


82 posted on 04/18/2010 6:25:42 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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>I would think the reason they were able to charge those boys with rape was because its illegal to have to underage sex.

I’ve been male as long as I can remember... at what age is having a sex illegal? ;)


83 posted on 04/18/2010 6:27:10 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

I would guess 18


84 posted on 04/18/2010 8:49:30 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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...I was a male at 18, I was never apprehended, so does that mean I’m a fugitive from justice?


85 posted on 04/18/2010 8:58:42 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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I believe the two boys are being charged with rape because they were under 18 which is unlawful.


86 posted on 04/18/2010 9:07:47 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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>I believe the two boys are being charged with rape because they were under 18 which is unlawful.

Not necessarily. The ‘age of consent’ here in New Mexico was 14, last time I checked; a holdover from the times when it was a territory (and survival-rates weren’t particularly high), but not [strictly speaking] wrong.

[Also,] In many cultures the female is considered to be of childbearing age after her first period while the male reaches manhood at 12 or 13 [or perhaps some ritual/task].


87 posted on 04/18/2010 10:29:39 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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this happened in MA if age wasn’t the issue i doubt they would be able to charge


88 posted on 04/18/2010 10:33:15 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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"How is it “sliming” the victim to see if [and if so show] that she had been dealing with such issues beforehand?"

If you do not see and understand the irrevalence of a minor child's prior behavior, in relation to a statutory rape charge, you're a deeply sick individual. No amount of whatever kind of POSSIBLE seductive behavior or medical condition on her part is material, coming from a minor. And this attempt to gain access to medical info about the victim is nothing but an attempt to put her behavior on trial.

89 posted on 04/19/2010 9:33:15 AM PDT by matthew fuller (#11. Thou shalt not argue with morons.)
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>>”How is it “sliming” the victim to see if [and if so show] that she had been dealing with such issues beforehand?”
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>If you do not see and understand the irrevalence of a minor child’s prior behavior, in relation to a statutory rape charge, you’re a deeply sick individual.

There are several key arguments in a ‘statutory rape’ case:
1) Age, which can be lied about.
2) Age difference, in some states, which can be lied about.
3) Sexual intercourse, which can be lied about.

So, there is the possibility that the ‘victim’ was a pathological liar. There is also the possibility that the accuser [given the victim suicide, must be someone else] is lying or misinformed.

The medical records [as well as criminal records] could show that there was such a history of lying.


90 posted on 04/19/2010 4:59:43 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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