Posted on 04/10/2010 6:38:26 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
People fail to notice those points. They are brainwashed from elementary school forward that the North was anti-salvery and the South was pro-slavery, and that’s what the war was fought about. They fail to know that the North had slavery the entire time of the war or that their States as late as 1842 even added to their Constitutions further strength to their slave holdings.
State's right to do what?
It would have been lost in any event. The government that davis cobbled together was a poor imitation of the one he tried to abandon.
Ever since that day, the industrialist “progressives” have continuously removed our freedoms, sent carpetbagger thieves South to take our land, re-write our history and “correct” our heritage. In three generations, they moved textile mills South so they could get at the cotton, farmed on land they then stole with confiscatory taxes administered through Freedmen’s bureaus and put-up politicians. The sharecropper system continued with former slaves and poor whites the vassals of northern opportunists, who came to “help” us dumb po folks don’t you know. Two more generations, and the mills shut down and went to Asia,tobacco was declared a poison yet allowed to be sold and grown only by industrial combines who could use their power through controlling tobacco tax revenues, and the furniture industry disappeared— all in the desire to seek cheap labor. States rights were eliminated through federal dictat. FDR and his pals in the elite liberal progressive Marxists, drove us into a war that took the lives of many of the children of the South who volunteered to defend the remnants of America they still love. And the Democrat party grafted onto this new Tammany of federal progressivism a neo-Marxist agenda, to enrich themselves and consolidate their power. The obamacare is the effort to completely eliminate States rights and complete totalitarian control. Southerners know what this means.
There are a great many lessons to be learned from the conservatism of the South, and the historical reality of the outcome of the War Between the States that established the abomination that is the federalized centralized US ruling class.
And where did the profits from the slave labor stay? Who profited from the buying and selling of the slaves. You're like the junkie who blames the drug dealer for all his woes when the fact of the matter is that without demand there would be no supply.
MYTH - Southerners tried to break up the Union. It was New England which invented the idea of secession; first in objection to the Louisiana Purchase in 1803 doubling the nation’s land area, and then in 1814 when New England wanted to trade with enemy England during the War of 1812.
It was the South who actually tried to break it up and resorted to armed rebellion to accomplish their goals. Having started the war your main complaint is that the North didn't let you win it.
MYTH - The War For Southern Independence was about “slavery.” While the South foolishly defended slavery in early 1860s rhetoric, The War was really fought over power and money. If Northerners had a moral objection to slavery in the 19th century, why did they finance the slave trade in the 18th century?
Tell that to the people who lived there:
"What did we go to war for, if not to protect our [slave] property?" - CSA senator from Virgina, Robert Hunter, 1865
"What was the reason that induced Georgia to take the step of secession? This reason may be summed up in one single proposition. It was a conviction, a deep conviction on the part of Georgia, that a separation from the North-was the only thing that could prevent the abolition of her slavery." -- Speech of Henry Benning to the Virginia Convention
"But not to be tedious in enumerating the numerous changes for the better, allow me to allude to one other -- though last, not least. The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution -- African slavery as it exists amongst us -- the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution." - Alexander Stephens, 1861
NOT A MYTH - It was only in the NORTH where owning slaves was still legal during the Civil War.
Say what? Are you claiming that Davis ended slavery?
Lincoln was fully aware of the irony, but he did not want to antagonize the slave states loyal to the Union by setting their slaves free.
And then he went and pushed through the 13th Amendment which...freed the slaves. Damned tricky of him.
But then what would they have to blame Lincoln on?
Actually the war went on for a few weeks longer as the Conferderate Government fled south from Richmond and Joe Johnston had to decide to continue fighting or surrender his Army
I want one of those Union Victory Appreciation chess sets. I await the day when there's more $$$ to be had from selling cheap trinkets commemorating Union victory than there is from peddling junk commemorating Confederate defeat.
I’m with you on most of this but you got to admit that the farmers and factory workers from the North whipped up on the fancy Southern plantation boys
Several counties in Missippippi revolted against the Confedearcy and actually maintained a battalion of Union soldiers from among its citizens
I want a Battle of Missionary Ridge chess set where all the rebel pawns face running away from the enemy.
But did the freedom-loving, South-;loving, local government-loving Confederates let then depart in peace?
PURPORTED????
Are you seriously contending that Lincoln did not violate the Constitution?
You can defend it as "justified", just like those who defend FDR's actions in WWII. But do not even begin to pretend it did not happen. That only would make one look foolish and in denial of reality.
Sherman should have been convicted and executed for war crimes.
War is rough. That account was pretty tame and short-lived compared to the reign of terror that other Southerners suffered under Confederate rule. Considering the horrors of modern war, those in Sherman’s path got off very easy.
What was a worse abuse, Lincoln merely jailing a suspected bridge burner in Maryland or Jeff Davis ordering suspected bridge burners hung in Tennessee?
Yep. The North was the oppressive Marxists of the day, and to a great extent, still are. They try to claim moral superiority, yet, history has shown how criminal their behavior really is. But that’s OK, they are a bunch of lazy fatasses today and couldn’t stop a girl scout troop. Their industries are long gone, their health is poor, their treasuries are empty, they have little agriculture, and their education is third-world with their universities full of foreigners. I hardly think a rising of the States to regain freedoms and liberties would be met with any useful resistance.
Because you said he did?
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