Gays in Military = Sex in Barracks

http://www.familyresearchinst.org ^ | Feb 22 2010 | Dr. Paul Cameron Ph. D

[adorno]

Gays in Military = Sex in Barracks

That might necessitate separate barracks for gays.

Females have their own barracks and males have their own barracks. Homosexuality, being different, might require a separation from the straight population.

I remember when in the Marines, a long time ago, how uncomfortable I felt when taking a shower and having a gay Marine in there at the same time. He was very clearly aroused and didn't care that I was looking uncomfortable about it. When I talked to others in the barracks about the situation, they too mentioned how the same guy would always be around for their showers. They felt as uncomfortable as I did but felt that it wasn't our business to do something about it. The gay marine took the longest showers of anybody because he seemed to be around the showers when everybody else needed to shower.

Needless to say, he wasn't very popular outside the showers either. He didn't hide his homosexuality and didn't care that it made others uncomfortable. The period of time I'm talking about was way before it became fashionable to come out of the closet and before people started flaunting their sexually preferences so openly. I don't think I could, if I were young and eligible, join the services nowadays with the openness that is being advocated currently.

[FreedBird]

Is Obama gay or something too? This is a sick world.

[OldPossum]

This is something that I keep bringing up when Freepers think that “don’t ask, don’t tell” is too harsh and want to know why homosexuals just can’t serve openly. Having been in the Army and knowing how closely one lives in the barracks, I know that I would not have wanted to serve with homosexuals and how good it was to know that the first time someone approached me or anyone else, out they went, usually within a day or so.

When in Korea someone approached a guy in my unit; within 24 hours that joker was on the plane back to the U.S. with a less than honorable discharge.

[FrankR]

"What does being open about your sexuality have anything to do with doing your job?

I can only address this from the heterosexual side, as a 64- year-old veteran, and father of 4, and grandfather of 6, and two marriages.

In the male-female world, I have read articles where studies show that young men - military age - think about sex every 15 minutes or so.

As young men - where women are concerned - many are victims of "using the wrong head" to think with, and wind up in trouble, or some other stupid mistake because of that trait.

As a manager, I've seen that even pairing young men with women on a work project can be shaky if either of them has designs on the other...the potential quest, or conquest, seems to effect the actual goal of the work assigned.

Now, having said that, it's not that homosexual activities haven't taken place in the military, even before DADT I've heard of such behavior, however then - if caught - they were given "undesirable" discharges and sent home.

But, if obama allows gays to serve openly, what it will do is greatly "empower" the gay military members, and they will become openly bold under obama's protection.

Being typically bold and outspoken anyway, their newfound boldness will - I believe - cause them to make "advances" they would not otherwise make, and any resistance they encountered will be reported as "gay bashing" and it will be the heterosexual, or ones who resist that will be in trouble.

We don't need this within the military; this will be a "mission-changer" from combat ready security for the United States to social experimentation which could lead to barracks becoming bathhouses. On the battlefield, will the gay soldier spend more time protecting his "friend" than the rest of the corps? This goes back to the "nepotism" thing and why most places won't let husbands and wives or boyfriend/girlfriends work together.

Also, so what happens when two gay guys are getting it on in the shower and the Sergeant catches them? If he reprimands or punishes them, is he then charged as a bigot, homophobe? How about if it's a female Sergeant?

There is enough tension in close living quarters without throwing in "sexual tensions".

I can see this new rule being like all liberal ideas, frought with "unintended consequences" and turning into madness that will effect the military to the very core.

It all boils down to esprit de corps and whether you're safe to drop your soap in the shower. You can't build an effective fighting unit when one half of the troops hate or fear the other half.

[353FMG]

>>Before long, the U.S. may be defended by the sex-obsessed and those who can tolerate kowtowing to them.<<

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Nothing to see here folks — it’s all part of the intentional destruction of the social structure of America as envisaged by the Founders. Diversity will reign.

[traditional1]

Hmmmmm......

I guess female submariners being allowed into submarine duty will not result in the same activities?

(I'm sure the male submariners won't be complaining, unless the selection process excludes hotties)

[353FMG]

What catagory will trans-genders fall under?

[conservative cat]

The dykes bully everyone, not just the straight women.

Most of the older ones love me. The young ones are mean and scare me. (I am very feminine looking but tough, independent, and masculine acting straight chick.)

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

“In declining states the leadership intuitively choses the most harmful course of action.”- A Great Historian 1888

[Levante]

“I’m getting out before it becomes mandatory!”

Read Joe Haldeman’s “The Forever War” a great military sci-fi story.

[Scotsman will be Free]

There would also be affirmative action in promotions for homos.
“We need a gay squad leader in that platoon, Captain. See to it.”
“Yes, sir Colonel”.

[Neets]

Yup.

[stephenjohnbanker]

“What catagory will trans-genders fall under?”

I think you will be able to shoot them, as if they were a double agent. The troops need at least one stress reducer.

[Scotsman will be Free]

“I’m raising the BS flag on that one. The interviewee has paranoia issues.”
Maybe so, but a huge percentage, at least half, of the women on my police dept were lesbians.

[hurly]

Are you people brain damaged or just so fogged by your prejudice you can’t think? There is a regulation/law against rape so if you drop you soap you’re as safe as you are now. There are already regulations against sex in the barracks(against good order,conduct unbecoming, etc) There is no proof the average homosexual is any more prone to rape, disorder, unlawful conduct than the average hormone dosed hetereosexual. Homosexuals have served with distinction in all armies and jobs throughout time. You people call yourself conservatives, yet you want more laws/regulation and government interference in the private affairs of our citizens. As a 65 yo veteran with children, grandkids, purple hearts with resulting prosthesis’ all I care about is can the kid in the foxhole beside me/mine shoot straight.

[OldMissileer]

I think the problem for women is way worse. The lesbians will make it through bootcamp and bully the heck out of the straight women the whole time.

It has been that way for decades: My sister joined the Air Force in 1969 and after a year of communications electronics training, high security clearances, they made her a telephone operator because she was female.

Anyway, to relieve the boredom she joined the base volleyball team and was the only straight woman on the team.

Some of the lesbians took pity on her and protected her from the aggressive ones.

I have a horror story about a homo in my career field back in the 70s but It would take a bit of writing and bore too many people.

[Maelstorm]

No they don’t understand but it is up to exmilitary and military soldiers and families to stand up and tell their stories because sure as he’ll the homosexuals story will be told. It’s the activism that is the problem and it will be front and center if DADT falls and the soldiers who are there to only to serve their country will be forced to deal with it and the old guard will be punished for resisting it.

[Scotsman will be Free]

“...yet you want more laws/regulation and government interference in the private affairs of our citizens.”
I don’t recall having any “private affairs” whilst being in the army. As a matter of fact there wasn’t any private anything, except the rank. As far as laws and regs and govt interference that pretty much sums up the army.
Further, no one is asking for more rules, just keep the one we’ve got in regards to homosexuals in the military.

[little jeremiah]

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Dr. Cameron tells it like it is, and if anyone comes on this thread supporting homosexuals in the military, I will personally slam you into the ground and try my very best to get you banned.

[little jeremiah]

You’re supporting homosexuals in the military. And what is your evidence? Only that you disagree with the statements in the article.

Paranoia issues? Have you been a female serving in today’s military?

Yes or no.

And why in hell will “forcing” straight (aka “normal”) soldiers to serve with homosexuals (aka “abnormal”) be a good thing, which is what you are implying??

I will wait for your answer.