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A NEW SMOKING GUN FOR CLIMATEGATE - CRU's JONES ADMITS COOLING SINCE 1998.
Climate Depot Emails ^ | Jul 5 15:51:55 2005 | Dr. Phil Jones

Posted on 12/11/2009 5:12:58 PM PST by mporter345

The scientific community would come down on me in no uncertain terms if I said the world had cooled from 1998. OK it has but it is only 7 years of data and it isn't statistically significant.


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: climate; climategate; enviromarxism; globalwarming; rodneykingscience
Just found this reading through the raw emails on Climate Depot. An amazing admitance of absolute fraud by Dr. Phil Jones, CRU.

This is the same Dr. Phil Jones that shortly after went on record with this statement:

What matters is the underlying rate of warming - the period 2001-2007 with an average of 0.44 degree C above the 1961-90 average was 0.21 degree C warmer than corresponding values for the period 1991-2000 http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:CyEF9-04fOoJ:uk.reuters.com/article/idUKL0314515220080103+phil+jones+warmest+years&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

1 posted on 12/11/2009 5:12:58 PM PST by mporter345
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To: mporter345
Actually old news.

The real question is :

What evidence is there for the CO2 hypothesis vs the Natural Fluctuations hypothesis?

2 posted on 12/11/2009 5:15:42 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: mporter345; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Normandy; TenthAmendmentChampion; FrPR; enough_idiocy; ...
 



Beam Me to Planet Gore !

3 posted on 12/11/2009 5:15:48 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: mporter345

From Van Jones to Jeff Jones to Phil Jones , it’s hard to keep up with the Jonses.


4 posted on 12/11/2009 5:19:52 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: mporter345
Given
1. that colder weather results in a lot more sickness and death than warmer weather,
2. that lack of air-conditioning results in heat deaths among the sick and elderly and a decreased quality of life for almost everyone else,
3. that people who are not living as drug addicts or alcoholics under a bridge live in a human environment that could not exist without a lot of easily obtainable, relatively inexpensive energy,
4. that EPA regulations on CO2 will necessarily result in a dramatic increase in the cost of anything that depends on a process that produces CO2,
5. and that EPA regulations on CO2 aren't based on anything more than a political agenda,
doesn't it follow that
1. to the extent that people don't cut back on their energy use they will necessarily become poorer in other material ways and to the extent that they do they will necessarily endanger their health, safety, and comfort in cold weather,
2. they will do the same in hot weather,
3. their human environment (including jobs) will be endangered,
4. the EPA, simply by making a ruling, is bringing demonstrable harm to hundreds of millions of people by attacking, through what amounts to a vast tax increase, the foundation of their human environment on the pretext that it will prevent them from suffering some unproven future danger from their physical environment,
5. and that the EPA's move in this regard is virtually identical in method (ignoring the science, making arbitrary decisions) and purpose (making decisions to remake American society for political purposes) to what it did in the person of William Ruckelshaus over DDT and to what others did through the big cancer scare to create the EPA to begin with (see The Apocalyptics: Cancer and the Big Lie, How Environmental Politics Controls What We Know About Cancer by Edith Efron, this included scientific fraud, scare tactics to increase federal money spent on trying to stave off what turned out to be a hoax, biased scientists and huckster politicians, such as Paul Ehrlich, Barry Commoner, Rene Dubos, and George Wald, using their positions to push their agenda)?
Because of this, Obama and the other global warmists/climate hysterics are preparing to do to the USA what Ruckelshaus did to Africa and other developing nations.

It seems as though Obama/Lisa Jackson's plans for CO2 regulation should have to pass an environmental impact study that demonstrates that its purported benefits must outweigh its costs on the American public. They shouldn't be permitted to get away with the legacy of sickness, poverty, and death that William Ruckelshaus has visited upon the world by his arbitrary anti-DDT favor to environmental extremists.

I mean, which business would be allowed to do something with as much impact on the human environment without extensive proof that it wouldn't screw us all over? And the government passes all sorts of crap onto individuals and businesses without any sort of requirement to justify that their actions will not harm the human environment.

If Congress faced the same barriers to enacting its fantasies as the pharmaceutical industry faced from the FDA in moving to market a new product, we would be blessedly free of both taxes and interference. How about a law called the Legal Anti-proliferation Act that requires Congress to rescind at least two laws for each that they enact until they reach the number of federal statutes in place in 1787 when the Constitution was ratified and gives them a deadline of ten years to do it, limits their legislative time in office to 3 months of the year, the rest of the time being reserved for studying and removing old laws, and requires them to sign a personal indemnity agreement making them and their heirs financially responsible for any bad results of their legislation? They could agree that their heirs, in the event of some unforeseen disaster or negative outcome because of their boneheaded legislative stupidity, could go free if they agree to forfeit their lives.
5 posted on 12/11/2009 5:42:42 PM PST by aruanan
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To: mporter345
 Al Gore
6 posted on 12/11/2009 6:18:06 PM PST by Tawiskaro
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To: mporter345

We just put to rest the silly notion that large scale conspiracy’s could never occur. The correct answer is they can occur, but they apparently have a shelf life of about 5 to 8 years. Thus, the conspiracy to hide the global cooling trend since 1998, has collapsed.


7 posted on 12/11/2009 6:46:28 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

Hello.

I’ve been thinking about the global warming scam and I
figure the Vested Interests(not just govt)were looking to wash their hands of the misery they and their fore-bearers have wrought world wide and magically blame it all on us “commoners”, esp. us American peons.

Of course, they got caught, just like the big-brained people knew they would but whatevs.


8 posted on 12/11/2009 7:43:06 PM PST by hyperconservative (Fight 2 Win. Out them all. Global reach, dude.)
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To: gusopol3

Hopefully they all end up like Jim Jones.


9 posted on 12/12/2009 10:15:41 AM PST by RatsDawg
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To: RatsDawg

Actually, I’d be happy to see them end up like JojoJones, an ex-poster here, c.2000, banned for life, I presume.


10 posted on 12/12/2009 12:03:50 PM PST by gusopol3
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