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Male sabertoothed cats were pussycats compared to macho lions
Duke University ^ | Nov 5, 2009 | Unknown

Posted on 11/06/2009 4:12:16 AM PST by decimon

DURHAM, N.C. -- Despite their fearsome fangs, male sabertoothed cats may have been less aggressive than many of their feline cousins, says a new study of male-female size differences in extinct big cats.

Commonly called the sabertoothed tiger, Smilodon fatalis was a large predatory cat that roamed North and South America about 1.6 million to 10,000 years ago, when there was also a prehistoric cat called the American lion. A study appearing in the November 5 issue of the Journal of Zoology examined size differences between sexes of these fearsome felines using subtle clues from bones and teeth.

The researchers report that while male American lions were considerably larger than females, male and female sabertoothed cats were indistinguishable in size. The findings suggest that sabertooths may have been less aggressive than their fellow felines, researchers say.

In species where males fight for mates, bigger, heavier males have a better chance of winning fights, fending off their rivals and gaining access to females. After generations of male-male competition, the males of some species evolve to be much larger than their mates.

Most big cats have a form of sexual dimorphism where males are bigger than females, said co-author Julie Meachen-Samuels, a biologist at the National Evolutionary Synthesis Center in Durham, NC. So she and Wendy Binder of Loyola Marymount University in Los Angeles wanted to know if extinct sabertooths and American lions showed the same size patterns as big cats living today.

When it comes to fossils, sorting males from females can be tricky. "It's hard to tell who's a male and who's a female in the fossil record," said Blaire Van Valkenburgh, a biologist at UCLA who has studied these animals extensively but was not an author on the paper. "Unless you're lucky enough to get some DNA, or you're working with an animal where males have horns and females don't."

For species that keep growing into adulthood, simply separating the fossils into two groups by size may not do the trick, either. "It's easy to get a younger, smaller male confused with an older, larger female if you're just dividing them by size," Meachen-Samuels said.

The researchers accounted for continued growth using subtle clues from fossilized teeth. "Teeth fill in over time," said Binder. "In young animals the tooth cavity is basically hollow, but as they get older it fills in with dentin. It won't give you an exact age, but it can give you a relative age in terms of young, middle aged or old," Binder added.

Meachen-Samuels and Binder x-rayed the lower teeth and jaws of 13 American lions and 19 sabertoothed cats recovered from the La Brea Tar Pits in Los Angeles. To account for growth over time, they measured tooth cavity diameter and plotted it against jaw length for each species. Plotted this way, the data for the American lion fell easily into two groups, regardless of age. The researchers concluded that "the little ones were females and the big ones were males," said Van Valkenburgh.

In contrast, sabertoothed cat sizes seemed to be governed solely by age. It would appear that the males were indistinguishable from their mates. "Even by incorporating a measure of age, you can't distinguish males and females," said Meachen-Samuels.

Size differences between the sexes tend to be more impressive in species where male aggression is more intense, and in the extinct American lion, size differences between the sexes were even more dramatic than in lions living today.

The closest living relative of the American lion, "African lions engage in aggressive takeovers where one to several males will take over an entire pride – the males have battles to the death," said Van Valkenburgh.

"Living lions have huge sexual dimorphism," said Meachen-Samuels.

Based on their findings, the researchers think the American lion probably lived in male-dominated groups, where 1-2 males monopolized and mated with multiple females. "My guess would be that the American lion was similar to African lions, where males guard groups of females," said Meachen-Samuels.

"But we don't see that in the sabertoothed cat," Binder said. The size similarity in sabertoothed cats suggests that male sabertooths may have been less aggressive than their larger cousins. "Rather than males having harems of females, the males and females in a group might have been more equal," Binder said.

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CITATION: Meachen-Samuels, J. and W. Binder (2009). "Sexual Dimorphism and Ontogenetic Growth in the American Lion (Panthera atrox) and Sabertoothed Cat (Smilodon fatalis) from Rancho La Brea." Journal of Zoology.

The National Evolutionary Synthesis Center (NESCent) is an NSF-funded collaborative research center operated by Duke University, the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, and North Carolina State University.


TOPICS: History; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: kittyping

1 posted on 11/06/2009 4:12:17 AM PST by decimon
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To: Slings and Arrows

Long in the tooth ping.


2 posted on 11/06/2009 4:13:01 AM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

The more carefully you read this the less confidence you’ll have in the conclusions of the study.


3 posted on 11/06/2009 4:17:44 AM PST by samtheman
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To: decimon
ah the Pleistocene....

I was born in the wrong era....I need a Dilorean with/flux capacitor and some heavy duty armaments.....

4 posted on 11/06/2009 4:22:43 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein))
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To: samtheman

It’s not about lions, it’s about GRANT MONEY.


5 posted on 11/06/2009 4:23:20 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: samtheman
If I were you, I wouldn't believe everything you read.

6 posted on 11/06/2009 4:23:45 AM PST by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: BigEdLB
If I were you, I wouldn't believe everything you read.

I can assure you that I take all your posts with a grain.

7 posted on 11/06/2009 4:29:35 AM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

8 posted on 11/06/2009 4:45:11 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

Not what I’d want to find in the back yard.


9 posted on 11/06/2009 5:00:56 AM PST by decimon
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To: BigEdLB

I apologize if I jumped the gun in my reply. I reacted to an overload of lecturing not involving you.


10 posted on 11/06/2009 5:02:40 AM PST by decimon
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To: decimon
It must be nice to get paid to do studies that cannot possibly be proven or disproven and will never provide any real benefit to mankind.

Its simply amazing how much can be extrapolated about an extinct animal's behavior from “subtle” bone structures. When people without PhD's make such assertions, its calle Wild @$$ guessing.

11 posted on 11/06/2009 5:11:01 AM PST by SampleMan (No one should die on a gov. waiting list., or go broke because the gov. has dictated their salary.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Exactly.


12 posted on 11/06/2009 5:12:04 AM PST by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: decimon

Perhaps with those teeth the saber tooth tigers didn’t see the percentages in fighting?
Even the stronger male could easily receive a mortal wound, so they just didn’t fight and settled with one mate.
Sometimes wisdom is strength.


13 posted on 11/06/2009 5:17:56 AM PST by G Larry (DNC is comprised of REGRESSIVES!)
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To: SampleMan
It must be nice to get paid to do studies that cannot possibly be proven or disproven and will never provide any real benefit to mankind.

I object if the pay comes from tax money. Otherwise, I'm glad there are people to stumble and fumble through the available evidence of the past.

14 posted on 11/06/2009 5:22:07 AM PST by decimon
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To: G Larry
Perhaps with those teeth the saber tooth tigers didn’t see the percentages in fighting?
Even the stronger male could easily receive a mortal wound, so they just didn’t fight and settled with one mate.
Sometimes wisdom is strength.

My impression of predators is that they avoid the risk of injury until hunger or 'hormonal imperative' comes to rule their judgment. Don't know that people are much different.

15 posted on 11/06/2009 5:27:30 AM PST by decimon
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To: SampleMan

“It must be nice to get paid to do studies that cannot possibly be proven or disproven and will never provide any real benefit to mankind.”

Bingo. It must be nice to get govt money to indulge in idle curiosity.


16 posted on 11/06/2009 5:38:08 AM PST by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: decimon
The findings suggest that sabertooths may have been less aggressive than their fellow felines, researchers say.

Bad Kitty!! Bad kitty!!

17 posted on 11/06/2009 5:39:48 AM PST by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd: ON)
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To: decimon

Smilodons used to be the textbook example (literally) of “parallel evolution.” Apparently, they presumed just because of their geographic distribution (the Southern continent) that they were marsupials. Now, it turns out that they’re just great big kitty cats.


18 posted on 11/06/2009 5:39:51 AM PST by dangus (Nah, I'm not really Jim Thompson, but I play him on FR.)
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To: 6SJ7

Bah! Just grab those big teeth and flip him. ;-)


19 posted on 11/06/2009 5:46:58 AM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

For some reason when I read "sabretooth" I think "snagglepuss".

20 posted on 11/06/2009 5:52:03 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: decimon

sounds like the sabertooths were more like american cougars than african lions.

still its curious that american mountain lions survived the extinction 12,000 years ago and american lions and sabertooths did not.


21 posted on 11/06/2009 6:18:23 AM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: ckilmer
still its curious that american mountain lions survived the extinction 12,000 years ago and american lions and sabertooths did not.

And a similar story with bears. Being omnivorous might help the bears.

22 posted on 11/06/2009 6:32:37 AM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

The sabre-tooth had to have been a pure deer hunter, the long canines would have been ideal for ripping deers’ throats open but would quickly get broken if the cat made a habit of attacking large prey animals. The super lion could have preyed on just about anything.


23 posted on 11/06/2009 6:58:51 AM PST by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946

I don’t need to travel to the past but would love a device allowing me to see the past. Seeing what extinct creatures actually did would be the ultimate show.


24 posted on 11/06/2009 7:23:27 AM PST by decimon
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To: decimon; Slings and Arrows; Glenn; republicangel; Bahbah; Beaker; BADROTOFINGER; etabeta; ...
macho lions



25 posted on 11/06/2009 7:39:13 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("When France chides you for appeasement, you know you're scraping bottom." --Charles Krauthammer)
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To: decimon
I object if the pay comes from tax money. Otherwise, I'm glad there are people to stumble and fumble through the available evidence of the past.

Of course, concur. There is nothing wrong with indulging idle curiosity in itself, or at least nothing I need to worry about vis a vis another adult. I just don't like funding it, or being told that I must change my life because the person making the guess has a PhD in the field.

26 posted on 11/06/2009 7:49:12 AM PST by SampleMan (No one should die on a gov. waiting list., or go broke because the gov. has dictated their salary.)
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To: ckilmer
still its curious that american mountain lions survived the extinction 12,000 years ago and american lions and sabertooths did not.

Shows their remarkable ability to adapt. I can't think of another animal that can live in either deserts or mountains or anything inbetween.
27 posted on 11/06/2009 9:39:34 AM PST by CottonBall
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To: SampleMan
When people without PhD's make such assertions, its calle Wild @$$ guessing.

When people WITH PhD's it's called SWAG - Scientific Wild A$$ Guess.

28 posted on 11/06/2009 3:07:06 PM PST by boatbums (Pro-woman, pro-child, pro-life!)
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