Unmarked Police Car
Posted on 11/02/2009 12:59:10 PM PST by SmithL
KINGSPORT, Tenn. - Police in Kingsport say a woman flagged down a passing car, got into the front passenger seat and offered sex to a police officer.
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The document indicated the officer wasn't in uniform and told Solomon, when she asked, that he wasn't a policeman.
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he drove her to the police station and told her she was under arrest for prostitution.
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Interesting... So, he LIED to her when she asked if he was a police officer — isn’t that against the rules for cops even if they’re off-duty? Sounds like she might have a built-in defense there...
This thread is useless without pictures.
Just sitting here tapping my fingers waiting for the “entrapment” arguement.(Which it isn’t)
Unmarked Police Car
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Oops. Too late. Yes, cops lie. Its totally legal. If every undercover introduced themselves as cops, they would be totally ineffective.
And this never happens to me.
The policeman should be disciplined for conducting off-duty, undercover operations.
Drive through service?
looking for love in all the wrong places ;-)
I was going to say, you’re too late! LOL
The point was he was off-duty, and NOT undercover... Look I’m not trying to say that this woman isn’t a complete and total idiot. Just that I thought it was pretty much illegal for an officer to answer that “exact question” in the negative. Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s what I was under the impression of.
I cannot find a picture. Someone call the Kingsport PD and ask them to upload the mug shot. We need to determine the guilt or innocence and also whether or not some might “hit it.”
You can trust me!
I am not a cop, either.
How in the world did I end up with the impression that this was against the rules? And, yes, I’m being serious. When I’m wrong about something I’d like to discover how I ended up believing something that was untrue.
Does this rule vary from dept. to dept. or something - or state to state?
ROFL... That gave me a good chuckle. How do I know you’re not lying??? ;)
You asked for it.
Perp on the left "cop" on the right:
>>Interesting... So, he LIED to her when she asked if he was a police officer — isn’t that against the rules for cops even if they’re off-duty? Sounds like she might have a built-in defense there...<<
When you are not on duty, you’re not a cop, regarding that particular law, IIRC. I could have done what he did (and I don’t even play a cop on TV).
Its almost “urban legand” that cops have to answer that question truthfully. That’s why hookers usually go for the cops “goods”. Most cops won’t let themselves be exposed to prostitutes in the literal sense.
Are you kidding? It goes without saying that, sight unseen, Laz would. :=)
It's long standing myth among criminals that police officers have to tell the truth at all times(and especially if they are asked if they are cops), but you only have to think about this for half a second to realize it would be stupid and counterproductive. You are effectively saying that police officers should be required them to always wear a uniform and show their badge to everyone they meet before they say anything. How would that work out?
It's only entrapment if the officer makes the offer. If the officer had flagged down the woman and then asked her for sex and she said yes, then she'd have a pretty solid defense that she was entrapped. But there have been many cases where undercover cops have to lie as part of their cover. Would you rather they endanger their lives by being forced to always say yes to such a question, even when they know if the criminals knew that information they would kill them? This case isn't so extreme, but when someone is acting in a questionable manner, you don't have to warn them that you are a cop just because you are about to witness them breaking a law, that's why this is within a police officer's discretion.
Surely, if an off duty officer is standing somewhere and someone asks him "Are you a cop?" The first thing he thinks is that the person who asked him about to do something illegal, right? Would you require him to answer yes before he knows what kind of law the person intends on breaking? What if the person is planning a murder or a robbery? Wouldn't you want that to be stopped?
Holy guacamole! If that jumped in front of my car I’d reach for the elephant gun. And pray I didn’t miss.
I understand what you are saying as far as doing what he did even as a “plain old” citizen. Interesting regarding off-duty cops not being considered as police officers. I recall in the media that the distinction is always made between on-duty and off-duty in other situations. Just never knew that being off-duty makes one officially a plain “Citizen” in the eyes of the law...
Good points, and thank you. However, I think the myth extends to more than just criminals seeing as I was under the same impression! lol
>>>>>How in the world did I end up with the impression that this was against the rules?<<<<<<
Maybe too much TV?
Yep, coming to realize that on this thread! A good thing if I were ever to plan to start a life of crime! LOL
What’s funny about that is I don’t WATCH TV, all that much. It could be something leftover from when I did though! :)
“Just never knew that being off-duty makes one officially a plain “Citizen” in the eyes of the law...”
It doesn’t. That statement is a patent misconception and a total fallacy. A cop is a cop, on-duty or off-duty. The difference is, that an off-duty cop isn’t required to go around proclaiming that he is, in fact, an off-duty cop. An off-duty cop is duty bound to enforce the law wether he/she is on or off-duty, not to mention protect themselves and loved ones. Just because a police officer may take off their uniform doesn’t mean they stop being a law enforcement officer.
However, that other person was right, if I’m off-duty and anyone approaches me asking me if I’m a police officer I am going to regard that person with the utmost suspicion and chose my words and actions extremely carefully.
Should of flagged me down!
This guy might though:
Maybe not. He doesn't even look as bad as her.
See now that makes a LOT more sense, and gels more with what I thought I knew about this issue (even if I was wrong about the question/answer portion). I knew that officers were under different “rules” than citizens even if they were off-duty regarding witnessing a crime and such.
SO, if I understand you correctly, the police officer was NOT doing anything wrong when he lied to her, but WOULD have been breaking the rules if he had not brought her in...
Thanks for your post, I really appreciate it — I think I’m coming out of the weeds now as far as what I thought I knew, and what I DO know!
Here's what most street-girls actually look like:
Hey, YOU asked for the pics!!!
So, unless one can afford $2000 of taxpayers money per tryst, one might just want to go back to the free internet porn.
(Seriously, Hugh Grant, what were you thinking??)
SPOILSPORT!
“... the police officer was NOT doing anything wrong when he lied to her...?”
And you have to assume that the article (written by a journalist) is a general glossing over of the details. I would assume he did not directly and blatantly lie to her as in:”Nope I’m not a a cop!”
I would hope it was simple misdirection, as in: “Why does that matter?” or: “Awwwww, come on! Why would you think that?”
In the end it doesn’t really matter because she initiated contact and she initiated the proposition meaning she broke the law. Whether he was a LEO or not had no bearing on what she did up until the point where she was arrested.
Except for the first picture, those look like the women that Match.com tried to hook me up with when I asked for single females, ages 35-45, living within 10 miles of me. Matter of fact, they look better than the ones listed on Match.com for my local area.
If you are feel the need to ask a stranger “are you a cop” it’s probably time to reconsider what you are doing.
We have off duty cops working security in our facility. One of them walked in chuckling.
He told me he got onto the elevator just as a guy takes a hit from a crack pipe. The guy looks up and sees the security uniform and says “Oh man you scared me, I thought you were a cop.” Even off duty, he is still a cop, he arrested the guy and called for a squad car.
I was joking. It is really sad and I feel sorry for these women. The situation is even worse in this Obama nightmare economy.
LOL!
On my second Match.com date, I met my new bride. You’ll never hear me complain about that site. We had both been fairly recently widowed.
“The report said after Solomon told the officer prices for sex acts, he drove her to the police station and told her she was under arrest for prostitution.”
If she’d known he was a cop she could have quoted him a price in donuts...
I live in rural NE Mississippi. There are few and far between choices here. I became a widower in Nov 2001 and have yet to be successful...just aren’t many to choose from.
According to the Kingsport Times: "A Kingsport woman was arrested on Friday after allegedly waving down a police officer in an unmarked car then offering him sex for money.
According to a report filed at the Kingsport Police Department, the incident occurred at the corner of Dale Street and Boone Street. The officer reports that as he drove by, at approximately 8:40 p.m., a woman waved at him.
When the officer turned around and drove by again, she allegedly waved him down. The officer stopped his vehicle, according to the report, and the woman jumped into his passenger seat.
"I asked what she was doing and she said trying to get into something," the officer states in his report. "She asked if I was a cop and I said no, then I asked if she was and she exposed her breast." excerpted
LOL!!
I forgot to ask, do they make change with donut holes?
Sorry for your loss, partner. Keep trying. There is someone out there for you.
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