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Former Celtics Star Antoine Walker is Broke and in Debt
Yahoo Sports ^ | Oct. 27,2009 | J. E. Skeets

Posted on 10/28/2009 11:25:12 AM PDT by Michael.SF.

In 12 years, Antoine Walker(notes) made more than $110 million playing professional basketball moderately well. Take away taxes, throw in some adidas endorsement money and a "NBA Live 99" cover, and he's left with, what, $60-to-65 million?

Whatever the details, it was a big chunk of change, which, amazingly, wasn't enough.

"[Walker] liked to move in an outsized entourage; his mother estimates that, during his playing days, he was supporting 70 friends and family members in one way or another. And speaking of his mother, he built her a mansion in the Chicago suburbs, complete with an indoor pool, 10 bathrooms, and a full-size basketball court. [...]

Living at the Bishops Forest condominium complex in Waltham during the Celtics season, Walker turned the pavement surrounding his home into a virtual luxury car lot — two Bentleys, two Mercedes, a Range Rover, a Cadillac Escalade, a bright red Hummer. Often, the vehicles were tricked out with custom paint jobs, rims, and sound systems at considerable added expense. He also collected top-line watches — Rolexes and diamond-encrusted Cartiers."

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Sports
KEYWORDS: antoinewalker; athlets; celebrity; chat; debt; idiot; nba; notaeconmajor
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Well, maybe he can move back in with Mom.
1 posted on 10/28/2009 11:25:16 AM PDT by Michael.SF.
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To: Michael.SF.

Not having a good accountant or agent might have been his biggest mistake.

Also, having a large entourage like many NBA players possess could have bled him dry.


2 posted on 10/28/2009 11:27:52 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Michael.SF.

What’s this “NBA”?


3 posted on 10/28/2009 11:28:04 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: Michael.SF.

Jerk.

I wonder if the NBA shouldn’t have the court appoint a conservator for every draftee.


4 posted on 10/28/2009 11:29:25 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The People have abdicated our duties; ... and anxiously hope for just two things: bread and circuses)
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To: Michael.SF.

A fool and his money............


5 posted on 10/28/2009 11:29:43 AM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: Michael.SF.

Ben Coates had children by eight different women, all of whom were collecting. Even though he kept up on payments, one of them came banging on the door of his pad at 3:00 AM demanding money. Someone has to tell these guys that some women think they’re ATMs with penises.


6 posted on 10/28/2009 11:32:28 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The People have abdicated our duties; ... and anxiously hope for just two things: bread and circuses)
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To: Michael.SF.

7 posted on 10/28/2009 11:33:24 AM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: Michael.SF.

“Well, maybe he can move back in with Mom.”

...we had one like that here in North Carolina...David Thompson....when he was in the chips he bought his mother a nice house...after his money was all gone he had a place to go to that was paid for.


8 posted on 10/28/2009 11:33:24 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: Michael.SF.

Chris Rock has a great take in his act on the difference between being rich and having wealth. He uses NBA players as examples of being rich. He uses the Rockefellers et.al. as having wealth.

Walker missed the opportunity to go from being rich to being wealthy.


9 posted on 10/28/2009 11:34:20 AM PDT by cydcharisse
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To: OldDeckHand

Nothing But A$$holes


10 posted on 10/28/2009 11:35:33 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: Michael.SF.

Multiple child support judgments has a way of eating into ones assets real fast.


11 posted on 10/28/2009 11:35:55 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Michael.SF.
One basic rule of ecomics is that if you spend more than you make, eventually you'll go broke. It just takes some longer than others. $110 million is just a finite $110 million. Walker should have spent some of that money on a Dave Ramsey book.

(Maybe Congress can move back in with Parliment when the US goes broke.)

12 posted on 10/28/2009 11:38:44 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: Michael.SF.
Jungle references are racist . It's a market out there .
13 posted on 10/28/2009 11:40:17 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F/8 Cav)
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Why does anyone care about this?


14 posted on 10/28/2009 11:40:59 AM PDT by Godwin1
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To: Michael.SF.

**Sarcasm On***David Stern is a racist for exploiting these African Americans. He should of known better that these underpriviledged persons would blow their money. We need a government oversight bureaucracy to make sure this does not happen again.***Sarcasm Off***

(In refernce to ACORN and their ilk criticising banks for lending money, which ACORN wanted, to minorities then surprise surprise many of them could not pay.)


15 posted on 10/28/2009 11:42:48 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: Michael.SF.
The story doesn't mention Walker's gambling problems, which were reported on by various newspapers/magazines last year and this year.

I have a feeling, Charles Barkley might someday be moving in with old Antoine. Charles has never met a craps or blackjack table he didn't want to spend the night with, allegedly.

16 posted on 10/28/2009 11:43:10 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

“I wonder if the NBA shouldn’t have the court appoint a conservator for every draftee.”

....the NFL got concerned about broke football players and mandated that every team would have mandatory financial counceling available....in the case of the Ravens, two of the top guys from Merrill Lynch volunteered to run a free weekly seminar at the team’s practice facility....only two Ravens showed up....one of which was Johnathan Ogden btw....a 10 time pro-bowler AND a UCLA graduate...a guy who made a career out of making good decisions.


17 posted on 10/28/2009 11:43:52 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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To: Michael.SF.

After what his mom said to the media after he got robbed? LOL, I’d be surprised if he is even talking to her.’

“Oooooooh, my poooor baaaaabyyyy. He called me up and he was soooo scarrrrrreddddd! He was crying, and bawling, telling me how frightened he was of those robbers! My poor baby boy was sooo scared!!”


18 posted on 10/28/2009 11:47:24 AM PDT by Boiling Pots (Barack Obama: The Final Turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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To: kbennkc
Jungle references are racist

What jungle reference are you refering to? I made none.

19 posted on 10/28/2009 11:49:08 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Where are are we going and how did I get in this hand basket?)
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To: OldDeckHand; al baby

It’s the hardwood, unpadded version of Thugball. The padded, turf and grass version can be seen (if you have absolutely *nothing* else to do, like practice torture endurance techniques) on Sundays in the fall and early winter.


20 posted on 10/28/2009 11:49:46 AM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: Godwin1
Why does anyone care about this?

But you seemed to care enough to post that no one should care about this.

21 posted on 10/28/2009 11:50:33 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Where are are we going and how did I get in this hand basket?)
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To: Michael.SF.

Some peopel just lose their minds with a little money don’t they? I can say definately that I could live out the rest of my life on 60-65 million and probably leave more than 3/4’s of it to all heirs.


22 posted on 10/28/2009 11:51:25 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Michael.SF.
Walker never had anyone advising him....

Or never listened.....

This is an old story...and has happened thousands of times before........

23 posted on 10/28/2009 11:51:47 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Obama's a self-made man who worships his own creator...............)
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To: STONEWALLS
...a guy who made a career out of making good decisions.

Well, except maybe for that decision to play football at UCLA.

;)

24 posted on 10/28/2009 11:52:49 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Where are are we going and how did I get in this hand basket?)
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To: Michael.SF.

Who cares?


25 posted on 10/28/2009 11:55:04 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Godwin1

Why did you post if you don’t care?

Besides, the point is that making a lot of money doesn’t equate with wealth. Most wealthy people will tell you that spending more than you make is not a good idea, whether you make $30K/yr or $30million/yr. We have 4 kids and we live on an income of $50K/yr (gross). That includes sending 3 of them to Catholic school. We aren’t living high on the hog, but we have what we need and we are squirreling away what is extra ‘just in case.’


26 posted on 10/28/2009 11:55:25 AM PDT by Hoosier Catholic Momma (Arkansas resident of Hoosier upbringing--Yankee with a southern twang)
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To: Michael.SF.

Though it’s hardly $110 million, it’s worth noting that after 12 years in the league, Walker is fully invested in the league’s pension plan. IIRC, it works out to around $400/month for every year played, or around 50 grand a year in Walker’s case. Not enough to keep the mansions and the Bentley, but more than enough to live on in relative comfort.


27 posted on 10/28/2009 11:55:39 AM PDT by DemforBush (Now officially 100% ex-Democrat.)
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To: cydcharisse
..."He uses should use NBA players as examples of being rich stupid. He uses should use the Rockefellers et.al. as having wealth brains.
28 posted on 10/28/2009 11:55:43 AM PDT by Mac from Cleveland (Dreams from My Father--(food, shelter, and education from some typical white folks)
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To: STONEWALLS

May be we need a conservator for the TOTUS’ reader.


29 posted on 10/28/2009 11:56:28 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The People have abdicated our duties; ... and anxiously hope for just two things: bread and circuses)
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To: DemforBush

Er, addendum: enough to live on if Walker smartens up about his situation.


30 posted on 10/28/2009 11:57:01 AM PDT by DemforBush (Now officially 100% ex-Democrat.)
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To: chris_bdba
and probably leave more than 3/4’s of it to all heirs.

I would think that a very comfortable life could be lived just on the interest of $60,000,000.

After taxes that woulb be, what maybe 2 to 2.5 million.

I could live on that, course I'd have to make a few cut backs.

;)

31 posted on 10/28/2009 11:57:44 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Where are are we going and how did I get in this hand basket?)
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To: Michael.SF.

Broke and in debt?! Welcome to the real world, Antoine.


32 posted on 10/28/2009 11:58:00 AM PDT by uncitizen (I'm mad as hell and i'm not gonna take it anymore!!)
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To: DemforBush
or around 50 grand a year in Walker’s case

Does he have to wait until a certain age before he can draw that money?

33 posted on 10/28/2009 11:59:14 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Where are are we going and how did I get in this hand basket?)
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To: Michael.SF.

ONE million. That’s all I ask. ONE Million. I would pay off my upside down house, all my credit cards, Pay off my car. Give a nice big contribution to the USO. Have a few bucks left over. I’m not greedy. I would not even quit my job.

And yes, I have been ROBBED. Burglerized, AND mugged. I I didn’t go crying to my mother.

And I’m a GIRL!


34 posted on 10/28/2009 11:59:20 AM PDT by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: OldDeckHand

NBA=Next broke athlete


35 posted on 10/28/2009 12:00:40 PM PDT by Texas resident ( Doing my part to piss off the heathen left.)
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To: Michael.SF.

I don’t know, to be honest. I do know that a player is fully vested after 3 years in the league, and also that there is an option to take a lump sum at age 45 instead of the monthly payment. My *guess* would be that players taking the monthly payments would get them upon retirement from the league regardless of age. But that is only a guess.


36 posted on 10/28/2009 12:07:31 PM PDT by DemforBush (Now officially 100% ex-Democrat.)
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To: chris_bdba
I could live out the rest of my life on 60-65 million and probably leave more than 3/4’s of it to all heirs.

Garth Brooks said that his grandchildren's grangchildren couldn't spend all the money he made. Which tells me he vastly underestimates the spending prowess of heirs.

37 posted on 10/28/2009 12:07:39 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The People have abdicated our duties; ... and anxiously hope for just two things: bread and circuses)
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To: Michael.SF.

Very true and most likely I’d be very close to the original 65 million to leave behind. Of course I’d want a nice piece of land with a nice house on it and a few nice cars so that might take a little more than just the interest. ;)


38 posted on 10/28/2009 12:07:48 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Le Chien Rouge
I would think the NBA would hire someone like a Michael Jordan to counsel these kids when they come into the league with soooo much money for the first time. Most of these kids have no concept that the money can run out and Jordan has done real well. Plus every one of these newly rich players know and respect Jordan and would probably listen to him.
39 posted on 10/28/2009 12:13:19 PM PDT by Tupelo
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To: C19fan

What we need is for congress to appoint a systemic risk czar to oversee the compensation packages that draftees and current players get, with them also having to submit monthly expense reports. Any player or draftee being found to engage in too much risk will be shut down and kicked out.


40 posted on 10/28/2009 12:16:31 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Phantom Lord

Hmm, I’d need about 85k to pay off the house.

Maybe another 20k to pay off fiancee’s student loans. Another 20k for her truck.

To not have to work again, I’d need about 600k at 5 percent a year. So I’d do with 750k.


41 posted on 10/28/2009 12:35:11 PM PDT by BenKenobi
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
” ... he vastly underestimates the spending prowess of heirs.”

I read one time that most family fortunes are squandered within three generations.

42 posted on 10/28/2009 12:35:31 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: Tupelo

Michael Jordan —”Republicans buy sneakers too. .”


43 posted on 10/28/2009 12:36:33 PM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: riverdawg
I read one time that most family fortunes are squandered within three generations.

Or in the case of VP Joe Biden, his father was able to do it in 1.

44 posted on 10/28/2009 12:37:05 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Michael.SF.
He also collected top-line watches — Rolexes and diamond-encrusted Cartiers.

Not to go all horological geek on the writer but those are not "top-line watches". Those are blinged out overpriced middle of the road watches. Not that I would expect an NBA player to wear a Patek Philippe or a Vacheron Constantin or a Blancpain however...

45 posted on 10/28/2009 12:40:39 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Look at how much it is costing taxpayers to support Obama and his entourage of 100 million.


46 posted on 10/28/2009 1:06:27 PM PDT by MiltonFriedmanFan
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

“Garth Brooks said that his grandchildren’s grandchildren couldn’t spend all the money he made.”

Maybe he can adopt Antoine!


47 posted on 10/28/2009 1:14:27 PM PDT by mrs. a (It's a short life but a merry one...)
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To: riverdawg

My grandmother’s grandfather once owned half of a small city. After my grandfather died in 1939 at age 39, she remarried well or she would have had to move in with her mother.


48 posted on 10/28/2009 1:19:09 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The People have abdicated our duties; ... and anxiously hope for just two things: bread and circuses)
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To: Michael.SF.

It was a nice ride while it lasted, right Ant-oine?

A $ 100 mil just doesn’t spend like it used to I guess.

Maybe you can get a bailout from Barama?


49 posted on 10/28/2009 1:19:45 PM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Garth Brooks said that his grandchildren's grangchildren couldn't spend all the money he made. Which tells me he vastly underestimates the spending prowess of heirs.

or has it locked up in an ironclad trust.

50 posted on 10/28/2009 1:20:11 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The Democrats scare me, the GOP infuriates me.")
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