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Cancers Can Vanish Without Treatment, but How?
New York Times ^ | Oct 26, 2009 | GINA KOLATA

Posted on 10/27/2009 12:52:52 PM PDT by decimon

Call it the arrow of cancer. Like the arrow of time, it was supposed to point in one direction. Cancers grew and worsened.

But as a paper in The Journal of the American Medical Association noted last week, data from more than two decades of screening for breast and prostate cancer call that view into question. Besides finding tumors that would be lethal if left untreated, screening appears to be finding many small tumors that would not be a problem if they were left alone, undiscovered by screening. They were destined to stop growing on their own or shrink, or even, at least in the case of some breast cancers, disappear.

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A young man may have a lump in his testicle, but when doctors remove the organ all they find is a big scar. The tumor that was there is gone.

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(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: cancer; health
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1 posted on 10/27/2009 12:52:52 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

As soon as these people thought they were dying they canceled newspaper and magazine subscriptions and their cancers went away I would bet.

The Media is Causing Cancer!!

//conspiracy theory, ... //tin foil


2 posted on 10/27/2009 12:54:25 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: decimon

Talk about losing your nuts.... sorry guys... The body can actually deal with some cancers. I can’t remember where I heard this, it was on the radio, a person through a average life time will have as many as 6 cancers, all of which resolve themselves with out treatment.

Modern Medicine is all about mechanically treating everything, sometimes with poison. Which in and of itself can be worse than the disease. Some things have to be treated but I think modern medicine sometimes goes too far.

Other means of healing are available including dietary, mental health (Combating stress) Lifestyle changes meditation among bunch of others. Modern medicine often does not give these areas anywhere near enough training or credit.


3 posted on 10/27/2009 12:59:34 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: GeronL

It’s the soy ink.


4 posted on 10/27/2009 1:00:57 PM PDT by decimon
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To: GeronL

Good as any ... I’ve met one of those people.. Xray showed lung cancer...3 biopsies (Dr couldn’t believe the first 2). Cancer mass was DEAD.

Cancel Newspaper cures cancer... good as any!!!


5 posted on 10/27/2009 1:03:14 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (I will DIE with Israel BY MY SIDE, rather than LIVE with the CHAINS of ISLAM on my Back!)
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To: decimon

Prayer?


6 posted on 10/27/2009 1:05:09 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Please God Save The United States From Barack Hussein Al-Obama. Amen.)
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To: decimon

It’s the percentages. Just because some remit naturally is not an occasion to stop all treatments. If one in a thousand remit, is that justification for stopping all treatments? Ah, No.


7 posted on 10/27/2009 1:09:14 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: decimon

It’s called moving from an Acid body state to an Alkaline Body state, most people have that live long enough have had and defeated cancers they never knew they had. You must remain alkaline and not acidic, and therefore you will have a much higher oxygen blood ratio. It matters.


8 posted on 10/27/2009 1:13:00 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: decimon

My quess is that the immune system eventually figured out how to deal with it.


9 posted on 10/27/2009 1:19:10 PM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: Hacklehead

10 posted on 10/27/2009 1:25:12 PM PDT by Niteflyr ("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
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To: decimon

I don’t know. A few days ago I saw where early detection of cancer is useless. Now they say the body can cure cancer on its own. Why all of the sudden? Sounds to me that the MSM is just greasing the skids so that when Zer0care goes through and cancer screening and treatments are not covered the sheeple won’t be concerned about it.... OK, OK I’m removing the tinfoil hat now.


11 posted on 10/27/2009 1:26:15 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: decimon

With all the chemicals (pesticides, pollutants, drugs, etc) we take into our systems every day, it comes down to we’re hospitable or inhospitably hosts for cancer causing agents.


12 posted on 10/27/2009 1:26:43 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: sr4402
Just because some remit naturally is not an occasion to stop all treatments. If one in a thousand remit, is that justification for stopping all treatments?

Well, the article didn't suggest that.

13 posted on 10/27/2009 1:37:05 PM PDT by decimon
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To: YankeeReb
I don’t know. A few days ago I saw where early detection of cancer is useless. Now they say the body can cure cancer on its own. Why all of the sudden? Sounds to me that the MSM is just greasing the skids so that when Zer0care goes through and cancer screening and treatments are not covered the sheeple won’t be concerned about it.... OK, OK I’m removing the tinfoil hat now.

Maybe your tinfoil is justified but this has come up before. I don't know why self-healing people haven't been given, with consent, every test in the book to try to find why they are different.

14 posted on 10/27/2009 1:43:11 PM PDT by decimon
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To: YankeeReb
Why all of the sudden? Sounds to me that the MSM is just greasing the skids so that when Zer0care goes through and cancer screening and treatments are not covered the sheeple won’t be concerned about it.... OK, OK I’m removing the tinfoil hat now.

I read about this several months ago in the Reader's Digest. I think what has happened is that we have been doing screening long enough to have some reliable data.

I know it is just a tv show, but when House is looking to diagnose a problem, he doesn't do full body scans. Why? Because he's likely to find 3 different problems, none of which may have any bearing on the current problem.

I think there might be validity to that.

15 posted on 10/27/2009 4:07:04 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: sr4402

No, but it definitely is a reason to set a threshold for advanced a cancer is, before starting treatment. As the article points out, mass screening protocols have resulted in a colossal increase in diagnoses of very early breast cancer — virtually all of which are then treated — with no drop in the rate of advanced breast cancers. There’s also a colossal amount of money being spent on diagnosing and treating very early breast cancer, and it’s not at all clear that there’s any benefit to this. Issues like this need serious attention, if we’re going to get health care costs under control.


16 posted on 10/27/2009 5:18:57 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Scythian

So how do you remain alkaline?


17 posted on 10/27/2009 6:20:46 PM PDT by paul544
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To: paul544; Scythian
same question! Would be interested in reading more.

Mother has a blood cancer, grandmother had lung cancer (but was 98 at the time) fathers bio background unknown (adoption)

Would appreciate any info that might help keep me healthy.

18 posted on 10/27/2009 6:27:01 PM PDT by warsaw44
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To: decimon

Very interesting and makes perfect sense.


19 posted on 10/27/2009 7:13:16 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Mr. President: Why did you appoint a Communist to your Administration?)
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To: fightinJAG

just a small point: Cancers thrive on blood sugars. Lower the sugars via diet, starve the cancers.

My wife’s friend’s husband developed cancer and they did the “healthy” diet: lots of fruit juices, fruits, carrot juice, vegetables, cut out red meats.... The cancer exploded throughout his body and he died in a couple of weeks.

A low carb diet will help starve the cancers by eliminating foods that covert quickly and easily into blood sugars.

But don’t believe a word I say. Do your own research into this stuff.


20 posted on 10/27/2009 7:19:41 PM PDT by Big Giant Head (Running my computer bare naked for over a year with no infections at all.)
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To: decimon

Two words: God’s Grace.


21 posted on 10/27/2009 10:16:01 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Big Giant Head

I had two friends with cancer who got much worse after they started eating more and more sugar. In one case, the man just ate all the usual horrible stuff, doughnuts and so on. In the woman’s case, she became a fruit freak and would sit down and eat a whole box of grapes at a time, etc.

I always thought the sugar was just too much fuel for the cancer at that time. The man actually said his doctor told him that but . . . whatever.

I do think natural sugars are better than refined. And as far as I’ve read in medical research, the fructose family of sugars (whether naturally occuring or not) seem to be more “fueling” than other sugars.

I agree with you on a low-carb diet (note: this does not mean NO carbs or extremely low carb) when fighting an acute cancer.

One last point that I was reminded of while writing this: I have also read several studies that found substances, such as sugars, acted differently on cancer cells depending on how active the cells were. This might figure in why the intake of fruits and vegetables is healthy at some times, but fuels cancerous growths at others.


22 posted on 10/29/2009 7:14:23 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Mr. President: Why did you appoint a Communist to your Administration?)
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To: decimon
Cancer Society, in Shift, Has Concerns on Screenings
23 posted on 11/01/2009 8:15:32 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Hacklehead
“My quess is that the immune system eventually figured out how to deal with it.”
Bingo! A company in Seattle, Dendreon, is teaching the immune system how to recognize prostate cancer by exposing some of the patients white blood cells to an antigen found on the cancer cells. The treatment, Provenge, will be filed with the FDA this month and should be approved early next year. Hopefully they will have other successes.
24 posted on 11/02/2009 1:23:53 AM PST by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: paul544
kombucha. I first learned about it here on FR from a poster who credited kombucha with putting his cancer in remission.

Now I'm a kombuchaholic. Right now I have four gallons brewing in my oven.

I cured my toenail fungus--remarkable.

Actually, it's not cured yet, but greatly improved. I have a feeling it will not actually ever be completely cured but I have pink toenail growth 3/4 improved.

25 posted on 11/02/2009 4:13:48 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (Al Franken--the face of the third-party voters)
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To: YankeeReb
Keep your hat handy; you are on to something.
26 posted on 11/02/2009 4:16:41 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof. V for victory)
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To: decimon; Coleus; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...

Thanks decimon.


27 posted on 11/02/2009 3:38:38 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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