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7 Myths About Windows 7
Yahoo! Finance ^ | 10-22-2009 | David LaGesse

Posted on 10/23/2009 12:42:52 PM PDT by Mr Fuji

Yes, Windows 7 didn't even hit the market until Thursday. But that hasn't stopped a fog of myths from enveloping the newest version of the much loved--and much hated--PC operating system from Microsoft.

[Slide Show: The Best of What's New in Windows 7.]

The software giant hoped that wide exposure to Windows 7 would help smooth its entry. Microsoft let millions of consumers and professionals download test versions of the operating system. And by a wide margin, testers have found the new system to be the best yet from Microsoft. Version 7 is leaner, more useful, and prettier than past editions--a worthy effort to update the Windows world.

Still, the fictions are legion. Much of it is innocent confusion that accompanies any major software release. Some of it arises from Microsoft apologists trying to bury the botched release of Windows Vista, sniping Apple fans who want the Mac to continue gaining market share, or diehard techies who revere free Linux software.

[Why some analysts argue that Linux is better than Windows or the Mac.]

With so much misinformation swirling, we've sorted through seven points that are confusing consumers:

1. It's only a minor update to Vista. Overstated, but there is some truth. With Win7, Microsoft had the luxury of going back to basics. Vista was a massive effort to update the core of Windows. The edition following Vista didn't have to be as ambitious. Programmers could focus on the edges of Vista, reducing its hardware-hog tendencies and annoying security nags. But Microsoft went further, adding consumer-friendly functions to paint Windows 7 as an upgrade. HomeGroups greatly simplify home networking, libraries organize jumbled collections of files, and multifinger power makes touch screens more powerful.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Hobbies; Miscellaneous; Weird Stuff
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1 posted on 10/23/2009 12:42:52 PM PDT by Mr Fuji
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To: ShadowAce

One for the TECH PING list.


2 posted on 10/23/2009 12:44:06 PM PDT by Mr Fuji
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To: Mr Fuji

I’ve got Vista on my home computer (purchased in August 2007) and I’ve had zero problems with it.


3 posted on 10/23/2009 12:47:30 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

4 posted on 10/23/2009 12:47:30 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: SoldierDad

same here..


5 posted on 10/23/2009 12:50:40 PM PDT by brivette
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To: Mr Fuji

That’s a fair article.

I’ve run W7 on my home machine for about a month via a Technet subscription offering(RTM version, the same that came out yesterday). I ran the RC before that.

Today I updated one of my work desktops(the main one) and all is peachy. Quite happy with it.

Vista was a disaster.


6 posted on 10/23/2009 12:51:39 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: Mr Fuji

I’m installing my programs on my Dell Inspiron B130 laptop after an upgrade to Windows 7 from XP Pro. So far things have been smooth other than a few updates to my CD/DVD ROM drive that I needed to dig around Dell’s website to find.

7 is slick. It loads a little faster than XP and that’s saying something: I run a 1.3MB Celeron processor with 1G DDR RAM. I never used Vista so I really can’t compare the two but so far things are very good.

The sticky notes are great. Menus seem a bit more intuitive, less confusing and I’m looking forward to exploring the Libraries function...after I’m not fuzzed by the flu.


7 posted on 10/23/2009 12:54:06 PM PDT by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: Mr Fuji
I tried Windows 7 out today at Walmart, managed to get the infamous Blue Screen of Death! I had it search for a wireless device and whammo!
8 posted on 10/23/2009 12:55:14 PM PDT by al44
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To: Mr Fuji
Oh gee look. A rush of positive spin stories come out ahead of Microsoft launching yet another episode of, "Name that BotNet."

I'm going back to watching cartoons. At least when Bullwinkle says, "Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!" it doesn't cost money when it still doesn't work.

I swear, Windows users are like abused spouses. Microsoft keeps giving them a black eye but the users just keep coming back to them.

9 posted on 10/23/2009 12:57:15 PM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: Mr Fuji

The article was anything but convincing.

Even the linked [Slide Show: The Best of What’s New in Windows 7] didn’t have much other than fancier graphics, translucent borders, etc. Yippie. Just what I’ve been salivating for — near-invisible borders. [/s]


10 posted on 10/23/2009 1:12:45 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Kieri
I run a 1.3MB Celeron processor with 1G DDR RAM. I never used Vista so I really can’t compare the two but so far things are very good.

OMG, thank your lucky stars you didn't try to run Vista on that! You would have pulled out a gun and shot it! XP and W7 seem to me to run equivalently on similar hardware, something that Vista could never do.

11 posted on 10/23/2009 1:23:11 PM PDT by Big Giant Head (Running my computer bare naked for over a year with no infections at all.)
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To: brivette; SoldierDad

Same here


12 posted on 10/23/2009 1:27:31 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Mr Fuji
OK, for the Windows-heads out there.... I run Vista on my MacBook Pro (2007, 2.2 GHz Core2Duo), BOTH as a "boot-up" OS, AND as a virtual machine under VMWare Fusion. It's the same drive being used in both situations, and I have the same setup going for Fedora 11 Linux.

I'm a happy camper, except for Vista being such a resource hog. I have 4 gigs of RAM, and when I run it as a virtual machine under Snow Leopard, I have horrible performance on any other large-memory task running on the Mac side. (Chip simulations, or complex & large Photoshop files.)

So,

  1. What's the best way to upgrade to Win7 that will a) be painless, and b) slim down as much as possible the RAM footprint of Windows? and
  2. Is there any difference with the boot-loader operation of Win7? I heard that it's now based on EFI. That could be good in the long run - Mac OS X is based on EFI as well, and I use rEFIt to boot between Mac, Win, and Linux. However, I'm concerned that it will gum up my current partitioning / booting configuration.
Thanks in advance for any feedback you can give....
13 posted on 10/23/2009 1:28:23 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: Knitebane

And Apple users (or whatever you use) are what, Knitebane?


14 posted on 10/23/2009 1:33:32 PM PDT by No_More_Harkin
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To: Knitebane

Funny, but I’ve yet to have a problem with Windows (running XP on my work laptop and Vista at home) - this goes back to the days when I was in College too (early versions of Windows).


15 posted on 10/23/2009 1:40:49 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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To: Knitebane
I'm going back to watching cartoons

Don't worry. God has a special plan in place for those less fortunate.

16 posted on 10/23/2009 2:11:44 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: Knitebane

LOL
Come here, let me dot your eye for you....
Let me guess, you drive a Ford too?


17 posted on 10/23/2009 2:12:20 PM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: al44
I tried Windows 7 out today at Walmart, managed to get the infamous Blue Screen of Death! I had it search for a wireless device and whammo!

******************************************

I love that BSOD ,, the TSOD with Vista just didn't seem right.. To be fair I haven't had a TSOD in a while but despite all the fixes Vista still won't let me modify files and things due to security bugs (yes, all my settings are "correct").

18 posted on 10/23/2009 2:35:01 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Malsua

Backward compatible for x32 peripherals?

Vista is Fxxx’d. I am running Virtual Machine so I don’t have to buy a new laser printer and I prefer classic features of XP.


19 posted on 10/23/2009 2:35:04 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: No_More_Harkin
And Apple users (or whatever you use) are what, Knitebane?

I don't currently own an Apple. The closest thing I have to it is an ancient Sun IPX. It has the same Motorola 68030 chip that a lot of early Macs (and a lot of Cisco routers) had, but it has Solaris 2.51 on it. And it's retired and in the attic.

Currently I'm running a mix of Ubuntu, CentOS, RedHat, FreeBSD and OpenBSD, depending on what the machine needs to do.

I banished Windows from my network a long time ago. I've not missed it.

20 posted on 10/23/2009 2:57:12 PM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: SoldierDad
Funny, but I’ve yet to have a problem with Windows (running XP on my work laptop and Vista at home) - this goes back to the days when I was in College too (early versions of Windows).

Funny, but most people that say they've never had problems with Windows just don't KNOW that they have problems with Windows.

That's why the vast majority of spam on the Internet comes from infected Windows machines.

21 posted on 10/23/2009 3:01:47 PM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: Vendome
Vista is Fxxx’d.

That must be the Redmond-approved spelling of "fixed".

Cheers!

22 posted on 10/23/2009 3:14:48 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: SoldierDad
Funny, but I’ve yet to have a problem with Windows (running XP on my work laptop and Vista at home) - this goes back to the days when I was in College too (early versions of Windows).

Man, I've been using windows since it's early days too. Sorry, but the only way I can see your statement to be valid would be if you turned it on and watched the screensaver, and possibly played solitaire, and that's it.

I've had more crashes, BSOD's, lockups and all sorts of other annoying crap dealing with windows than I care to recount.

And yes, I have Vista that came with a laptop, and it sucks. I've also been running W7RC, it's okay, sure as heck runs better than vista, but I run it in a virtualbox on Linux so I can run iTunes and sync the iPhone. That's all I use winders for anymore. I've been running Linux for years now, and I love it, I don't miss windows at all.

23 posted on 10/23/2009 4:17:11 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; 50mm; 6SJ7; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; Airwinger; Aliska; altair; ...
Myth Number 7—PING!

7. Mac users should abandon Apple. The Mac is still the standard for a computer that "just works." Apple has more control over the end product because it also assembles and sells the hardware. The Mac system is also more secure, if for no other reason than that a smaller market share makes a smaller target for criminals. Windows has to run on any batch of hardware that a maker or user throws together. That's one reason Windows requires more tinkering. But Windows also comes from a culture that is more influenced by techies who like tinkering and think everyone else does. Macs cost more. But they also benefit from the aura of success that surrounds the iPhone and iPod. Windows 7 may cut into the momentum behind the Mac, but it alone is unlikely to reverse Apple's gains.


Number 7, The "Perfect" Windows7 Myth Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

24 posted on 10/24/2009 3:21:28 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

Vista, has been a mixed bag. It’s much more stable for me than ME and XP ever were. I have had a few BSODs, but for the most part, it does what I need it to do, and I don’t have to restart/reboot as I had to do all the time with my XP laptop.

Out of the box, it was difficult to work with, but then so was IE 8. The only real time I’ve had to deal with BSODs is when I had a harddrive problem, and that had nothing to do with Vista.

I get why people didn’t like it, and preferred other systems, but I’d rather have a system I can customise to my needs rather than pay double the cost for the equivalent apple system.


25 posted on 10/24/2009 4:33:00 AM PDT by BenKenobi
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To: Mr Fuji

Apple is going to miss Vista.


26 posted on 10/24/2009 4:42:07 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Swordmaker
> ... Windows has to run on any batch of hardware that a maker or user throws together.

NOT TRUE.

Windows is not guaranteed by Microsoft to run on anything that doesn't match their requirements.

Granted, their requirements are wide enough to accommodate a lot of nice hardware and a lot of crap hardware. But as a "user", go ahead and "throw together any batch of hardware" and then try to get support from Microsoft when Windows won't run on it.

Microsoft pushes that support back onto the user, or the manufacturer of the components or system.

Microsoft is responsible for what Windows -IS-, and how it runs on the hardware Microsoft supports. How Windows runs on anything else is a crapshoot.

So the real MYTH here is that "Windows has to run on any...". BS.

27 posted on 10/24/2009 7:58:16 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: No_More_Harkin; Knitebane

Smug and self-important because they are SOOOO much smarter than we plebian Windows users.

Sort of like the mindset LIEberals have.


28 posted on 10/24/2009 10:49:30 AM PDT by Don W (I will praise Him.)
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To: Don W
Smug and self-important because they are SOOOO much smarter than we plebian Windows users.

We'll you are certainly entitled to your opinion, no matter how ignorant or misguided it might be.

It's not smug or self-important to point out that Windows is a seething cauldron of malware and that if you don't like spam and you don't like viruses and you don't like bots you may want to look at something else.

The Windows 7 update is like going from hitting yourself in the head with a 10 pound hammer to hitting yourself in the head with an 9 pound hammer.

As I sit here and watch all these people go, "Oh! That feels MUCH better," I can't help but point out that what you really need to do is STOP WITH THE HAMMER.

Sort of like the mindset LIEberals have

I'll point out that William H. Gates III is a proud donater to the UN Population Fund (which supports forced abortions in China) and gave generously ($10,000) to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

Buying Microsoft software lines the pockets of dozens of high-end socialists like William H. Gates II and his son.

I can understand the need to use Microsoft operating systems because a) certain applications require it or b) your company put it on the laptop they gave you but failing that most people can use something else, and should.

Microsoft has been claiming for 10 years that they finally understand that security is important to users. Since the number of owned Windows machines spewing out spam hasn't decreased in 10 years but has actually increased it's pretty obvious that they don't.

29 posted on 10/26/2009 8:11:41 AM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: AFreeBird

Hmmmm. Don’t know what to tell you. I use Word, Excel, Powerpoint, and various 2nd party programs for my work. The only problems I’ve had have come from web based viruses that have infected my computer from time to time.


30 posted on 10/26/2009 9:18:41 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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