Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Video: A demo of XP Mode in Windows 7
TechRepublic ^ | October 16th, 2009 | Mark Kaelin

Posted on 10/22/2009 8:16:15 AM PDT by bcsco

Through its XP Mode, Microsoft Windows 7 can extend the useful life of legacy applications and peripherals.

With a feature called XP Mode in Windows 7, Microsoft hopes to make it easier to use legacy applications and equipment. In this video, ZDNet’s Ed Bott, blogger of Ed Bott’s Microsoft Report, shows you how the new XP Mode works and suggests a few possible uses for the feature.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.techrepublic.com.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: microsoft; windows7; windowsupgrade; windowsxp
Yesterday, I posted a thread about a dual-boot configuration of Windows XP and Windows 7. Today, it's a video on running Windows XP in Windows 7 through "XP Mode".
1 posted on 10/22/2009 8:16:16 AM PDT by bcsco
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: bcsco

I think I’ll run XP mode in XP instead.


2 posted on 10/22/2009 8:17:28 AM PDT by JOAT
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bcsco

What I don’t understand is why they didn’t build into the install to “move” your previous XP install into the “XP mode”, that would be such an easy upgrade for the users. Oh well, if they did all the stuff with software they should we geeks wouldn’t be able to show off.


3 posted on 10/22/2009 8:17:59 AM PDT by discostu (The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: JOAT

Thank you. Why fix what ain’t broke? Win 7 is just a ploy to get us to shell out more cash. XP is just fine the way it has been, for years. Win 7 just breaks the software I use every day! Useless!


4 posted on 10/22/2009 8:22:13 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: bcsco
Thanks for posting this
Bttt
5 posted on 10/22/2009 8:22:21 AM PDT by novemberslady
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bcsco; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

6 posted on 10/22/2009 8:23:23 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: discostu
What I don’t understand is why they didn’t build into the install to “move” your previous XP install into the “XP mode”...

Windows 7 is intended as an upgrade to Vista; not XP. In fact you can't upgrade to Windows 7 from a Windows XP installation. I would suspect that's the overriding answer to your question.

7 posted on 10/22/2009 8:24:53 AM PDT by bcsco (Hopey changey down the drainey...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: JOAT
I think I’ll run XP mode in XP instead.

Myself as well. But there have been a number of threads on Windows 7 these past few days, so I thought this would be of benefit.

8 posted on 10/22/2009 8:25:46 AM PDT by bcsco (Hopey changey down the drainey...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: bcsco
Thanks for putting these threads up lately....I'm scrambling to learn what I can (I'm as low tech capable as you could imagine) because this almost 10 year old PC is on it's last legs, and I'm excited to give Windows 7 a try on a new machine.

Gulp - I'm terrified; need to find teenage geek kid.

9 posted on 10/22/2009 8:30:42 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Mmm mmm mmm - Barack Hussein Obama (repeat endlessly))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ErnBatavia
Good luck. I suspect it'll go a lot better than you may think. BTW, you may want to look into TechRepublic. They offer a number of good articles on computing, and it's not just for the tech savvy. Go here TechRepublic and do a search on Windows 7.
10 posted on 10/22/2009 8:36:19 AM PDT by bcsco (Hopey changey down the drainey...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: ErnBatavia
Windows 7 is better than XP. On my 2g notebook it was faster too.

That being said, the XP mode is awesome as it can run any thing that XP can from within Win 7. Who needs to dual boot.

I never went down the Vista path, but I really believe that Windows 7 is Worth upgrading too.

But hey, I will likely run XP on a couple of my machines until they die

11 posted on 10/22/2009 8:38:41 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (We the people, ..... never)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: bcsco

I know, and that’s stupid. Especially when they put XP mode in the OS in the first place. They SHOULD have made it so if you installed 7 on a machine with XP it would put your existing XP in as the XP mode. The overriding answer is that they screwed up and missed a good opportunity to do something easy (given how close 7 is to Vista if Vista could upgrade from XP 7 could also if they’d bothered to port the code).


12 posted on 10/22/2009 8:41:30 AM PDT by discostu (The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

Here's another TechRepublic link on how to Plan and execute a smooth Windows 7 upgrade with the help of this flowchart. Additional links on Windows 7 articles are provided below the article.
13 posted on 10/22/2009 8:44:09 AM PDT by bcsco (Hopey changey down the drainey...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: discostu
It's been awhile since I read it, but perhaps this link may give you some answer.
14 posted on 10/22/2009 8:48:43 AM PDT by bcsco (Hopey changey down the drainey...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: bcsco

I’ll be waiting to hear if this works like it should. I have a MacBookPro with parallels and it’s important for my embroidery software to be able to run and be able to communicate with the embroidery machine. If it runs good I’ll make sure to update Parallels and buy 7 to load onto it, if not I’ll stay with what I have now.


15 posted on 10/22/2009 8:51:15 AM PDT by chris_bdba
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bcsco

I already know the answer: MS screwed up. They decided to ignore the fact that lots of people still are on XP and do a one version upgrade instead of the industry standard 2 versions. It’s not complicated, MS has a long history of screwing things up, if we’re lucky the lack of XP upgrade will be the biggest screw up in 7.


16 posted on 10/22/2009 8:53:18 AM PDT by discostu (The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: chris_bdba

I understand. My wife has an embroidery machine, although a PC isn’t directly linked to it. She has a hub she attaches via USB with which she can transfer patterns to a machine data card. I just bought her one of those small Dell Netbooks. Now, instead of using my laptop, she can use her own PC. Yeah!


17 posted on 10/22/2009 8:54:45 AM PDT by bcsco (Hopey changey down the drainey...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: bcsco

I installed XP mode earlier this week on my W7 Ultimate x64. It works. It doesn’t have video acceleration and I’m having some trouble with some device drivers. I’ll give it a full go this weekend.


18 posted on 10/22/2009 8:54:49 AM PDT by Malsua
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: discostu

It may be more basic than that. There’s more $ in buying a boxed operating system than in buying an ‘upgrade’. They felt ‘compelled’ to do something about the Vista issue. They didn’t feel compelled to do something about other legacy systems.


19 posted on 10/22/2009 8:56:55 AM PDT by bcsco (Hopey changey down the drainey...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: bcsco

Per some version comparison charts, the XP Mode is NOT available in the Home edition of Win7.

FYI


20 posted on 10/22/2009 8:59:19 AM PDT by TomGuy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bcsco

I’m sure money plays into it. We know it’s not technical because 2008R2 (Windows 7 server) CAN upgrade from 2003 (XP server). They simply chose not to, for internal reason which I’m sure seem perfectly valid from Redmond, but from down here in Tucson it’s exactly the kind of short sightedness I get paid to rail against.


21 posted on 10/22/2009 8:59:38 AM PDT by discostu (The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: TomGuy
Per some version comparison charts, the XP Mode is NOT available in the Home edition of Win7.

Well, that's an interesting point. So Microsoft will ignore the needs of all those home XP users who can't/won't upgrade their software? Sheesh.

Thanks for the info.

22 posted on 10/22/2009 9:06:57 AM PDT by bcsco (Hopey changey down the drainey...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: bcsco

Thank you....going there soon to continue my education!


23 posted on 10/22/2009 9:24:56 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Mmm mmm mmm - Barack Hussein Obama (repeat endlessly))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: bcsco

Actually, you can upgrade XP to Win 7. I posted a “how to” a few months ago. If you’d like I can find it, and repost, or pm it to you and you can post it.

You can also upgrade Win 7 beta and RC almost the same way.


24 posted on 10/22/2009 9:40:58 AM PDT by papasmurf (RnVjayB5b3UsIDBiYW1hLCB5b3UgcGllY2Ugb2Ygc2hpdCBjb3dhcmQh)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: bcsco

Unless they want to go to Ultimate, which is basically Pro for home. Good old MS. I was starting to worry, so much good news coming about 7, maybe MS was turning into a pleasant company to deal with.


25 posted on 10/22/2009 9:42:42 AM PDT by discostu (The Bluebird of Happiness long absent from his life, Ned is visited by the Chicken of Depression)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: discostu

They didn’t put it into Win 7, it’s an additional installed item.

Your idea to use an existing XP install is great. In most VM’s (virtual machines, which is what XP mode uses) you can do that, it’s called raw partition access, and let’s you use an existing install. But, like you said, though, it’s too bad MS didn’t.


26 posted on 10/22/2009 9:44:58 AM PDT by papasmurf (RnVjayB5b3UsIDBiYW1hLCB5b3UgcGllY2Ugb2Ygc2hpdCBjb3dhcmQh)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: JOAT
I've been running XP mode in Win 7 for a few months, ever since the RC beta version came out. It works really well. I would run it more, except there are very few applications that I need to run XP mode with--Win 7 runs great with just about everything.

If you know someone with an .edu email address, you can get Win 7 Professional for $30.

27 posted on 10/22/2009 9:48:15 AM PDT by Defiant (The absence of bias appears to be bias to those who are biased.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: papasmurf

Please repost how to upgrade XP and Win 7 RC, unless you are referring to a clean install (what MS calls a “Custom” install). I have done “clean installs” on two machines, and have a few more to do. It will be a lot easier if I can do an “in place” upgrade.


28 posted on 10/22/2009 9:51:20 AM PDT by Defiant (The absence of bias appears to be bias to those who are biased.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: papasmurf
I posted a “how to” a few months ago. If you’d like I can find it, and repost,

That would be appreciated. Also, does it include the ability in Windows 7 Home edition?

29 posted on 10/22/2009 9:54:36 AM PDT by bcsco (Hopey changey down the drainey...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: bcsco

I really don’t know. I have only done it with the RC (Build 7100), which is Ultimate.


30 posted on 10/22/2009 10:02:40 AM PDT by papasmurf (RnVjayB5b3UsIDBiYW1hLCB5b3UgcGllY2Ugb2Ygc2hpdCBjb3dhcmQh)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: papasmurf

An earlier poster mentioned that XP mode wasn’t available in Home Edition. That’s what made me wonder whether a path to upgrade would also exist.


31 posted on 10/22/2009 10:11:28 AM PDT by bcsco (Hopey changey down the drainey...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: bcsco

Mine is a little older but does run by direct link via usb. I can either save to memory or save to the PCMCIA card. Does she like her netbook because I was thinking that it would be nice to have one of those because of the XP and if I drop it it is only a $400 loss and not thousands!


32 posted on 10/22/2009 10:39:48 AM PDT by chris_bdba
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: bcsco
Can't wait to get rid of this Windows Vista 64 bit piece of crap on my machine.

Started work at 7 this morning and got the "Grey Screen of Death" with its Startup Repair program.

Every damn time an upgrade for ANY program calls for a restart this stupid crap pops up and disables my machine for 30-60 minutes, but not today. Not when I need to work from the get-go. No sir!

Today was a two hour FUBAR waiting for that crap to figure out it was an OS and not a permanent screensaver.

33 posted on 10/22/2009 10:50:57 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: chris_bdba
She's only had it a little over a week, but so far, so good. She hasn't been a 'computer' person at all. The day it arrived was her day off. When I told her it would take some time to get it set up with Internet protection and recognized by our router she said "whatever". Not much excitement there...

But, I also mentioned that she could watch the previous night's NCIS episode online by going to the CBS website. After dinner, she sat down in her chair, booted up CBS, and spent an enjoyable hour watching the show. She then checked her email and remarked "Hey, this is fun".

I bought it because she's moved to a much larger store which she manages (a craft/fabric chain...), and thought she'd need the help of her own PC. I installed OpenOffice, and the conduits to an old Palm Tungsten E2 I gave her for her schedules and such. Now, she's getting into 'computing'.

Forget the $400 price tag. This is a Dell Mini Notebook and sells for $299. I bought it without any add-ons at all. It doesn't have a CD/DVD drive but that's nothing she needs. I have a USB backup drive so all the original CD software can be stored there. I make backups to a USB flash drive.

34 posted on 10/22/2009 11:00:32 AM PDT by bcsco (Hopey changey down the drainey...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: N. Theknow

I had an acquaintance ask my advice on buying a new laptop to link up with an old tower they had (I did the network setup for them). I advised them to buy one that still had XP installed; not Vista (This was shortly after Vista came out and the horror stories were just beginning). What did they do, they went to Best Buy and bought a Vista laptop because it looked like such a good deal.

Uh, huh. He’s still complaining about problems he’s having. I just kind of smile...


35 posted on 10/22/2009 11:04:42 AM PDT by bcsco (Hopey changey down the drainey...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Defiant; bcsco
For upgrading XP to Windows 7... Here's the link to Laplink, which will migrate your XP to Win7, files, installed apps, and settings...everything.



Available by download here for $ 19.95 (Limited Time Pricing).

Remember, if you have a legal copy of XP, you can buy an Windows 7 Upgrade at a reduced price from the full version.

BTW, you do know that you can do a straight upgrade XP to Vista, and then upgrade Vista to Win 7 also, don't you?

I have the instructions to upgrade the beta or RC to OEM somewhere. I think I might have left the file on another pc, so, I'll have to find them again.
36 posted on 10/22/2009 5:38:07 PM PDT by papasmurf (RnVjayB5b3UsIDBiYW1hLCB5b3UgcGllY2Ugb2Ygc2hpdCBjb3dhcmQh)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: papasmurf; bcsco
HOW TO UPGRADE WINDOWS 7 BETA OR RC TO WINDOWS 7 RTM (RETAIL VERSION)

The final version of Windows 7 was released yesterday for MS Technet subscribers, but you can’t upgrade directly from a pre-release version—at least, not without a quick and easy workaround, and we’ve got you covered.

The Problem

Windows 7 checks whether or not the current version you are running is a pre-release copy, and prevents you from upgrading further. For reference purposes, this is the error you’ll see when you try and upgrade.

Windows 7 can't upgrade error

The Solution

The solution is to edit a file inside the Windows 7 DVD—which you’ll have to extract to the hard drive to proceed.

Once you’ve extract the files, browse down into the “sources” folder to find the cversion.ini file.

Windows 7 CD files

Once you’ve opened up the cversion.ini file, you’ll notice that the MinClient line has a value of 7233.0, and since the Windows 7 RC release is build 7100, you can understand why it’s not working.

Editing cversion file

All you need to do is change the MinClient value to something less than the current build you are using. For the RC release, you can change it to 7000.

Editing cversion file 

Now you can simply launch the setup.exe file from within the folder, and do the upgrade directly from the hard drive. Once you’ve started the setup, click Install now.

Windows 7 upgrade startup

Once you get to the type of installation screen, choose to Upgrade the existing install.

Windows 7 choose upgrade type

Once you reach the Compatibility Report screen (if it doesn’t show up at all, be happy about it), you’ll see the list of applications that probably won’t work once you upgrade. Realistically most of these apps will work just fine, but the important thing is that you’ll be able to upgrade.

Note: You could always smooth the upgrade process by removing any apps that have compatibility problems, before you do the upgrade.

Windows 7 upgrade compatibility report

At this point, the upgrade should start working, and will take a rather long time.

Windows 7 is upgrading just fine 

Important Notes

There are a few important things to keep in mind when you are upgrading to the final version:

Happy upgrading!

originally from HowToGeek.com

37 posted on 10/22/2009 5:46:35 PM PDT by papasmurf (RnVjayB5b3UsIDBiYW1hLCB5b3UgcGllY2Ugb2Ygc2hpdCBjb3dhcmQh)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: papasmurf

Thanks, papasmurf, that’s good stuff!


38 posted on 10/22/2009 7:16:48 PM PDT by bcsco (Hopey changey down the drainey...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: bcsco

You’re welcome.

NOTE: The actual name of the XP to 7 product is PC Mover UPGRADE ASSISTANT. PC Mover itself, is an entirely different product.

My bad. ;(


39 posted on 10/22/2009 7:19:36 PM PDT by papasmurf (RnVjayB5b3UsIDBiYW1hLCB5b3UgcGllY2Ugb2Ygc2hpdCBjb3dhcmQh)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: papasmurf
I know about the upgrade to vista then 7 path. I was hoping to avoid that.

I have a Windows 7 Ultimate Steve Ballmer autographed copy that I got about a week ago, for doing one of those lame Launch Parties. I was running the beta for the past 6 months. I also have Leopard running on the same machine. I ordered a copy of Win 7 Pro a few months back, and downloaded it last night. So I have two licenses to use.

Thanks for the link, I will check it out. I used Laplink around 1991, if I recall correctly. I think it cost like $150 back then, and let you use a 14 baud modem to transfer files over the phone or by direct connections. I'm amazed they are still around.

40 posted on 10/22/2009 8:49:08 PM PDT by Defiant (The absence of bias appears to be bias to those who are biased.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: Defiant

You’re welcome. Be sure to download and read the user guide on their website before your upgrade.


41 posted on 10/22/2009 9:10:08 PM PDT by papasmurf (RnVjayB5b3UsIDBiYW1hLCB5b3UgcGllY2Ugb2Ygc2hpdCBjb3dhcmQh)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson