Posted on 10/01/2009 5:24:53 PM PDT by Mamzelle
She is...no more, no less...a hired mouthpiece. She makes her living as a PR flack. Perhaps Weight Watchers (or NutriSystem, etc.) is paying her...or a national fitness center.
If I have to pay to rescue a mountain climber who takes chances that they shouldn't its my business. If I am part of a culture that makes super sizing meals SOP its my business to speak out about it. We all have an interest in risky behavior that costs us money and in a culture that encourages risky behavior. I agree I have no interest in specific individuals behaviors unless they are a loved one. I also agree our government should have no business in any of this.
“is she wrong”? Wrong about what Raycpa? huh?, the bottom liine is she is rude, obnoxious Food Anarchist and a twit to boot.
Food Anarchists abound when they can’t get a real job-they have a degree in “nutrition” or some wobbly nuts like that from a left leaning university.
Raycpa, this twit doesn’t have a REAL JOB
I think she's playing a role in the health-care push HCAN bunch and if I look hard enough Center for American Progress. They're good at playing Alinsky style. Isolate, ridicule, freeze the target. Fatties are expensive and a lot of people already resent them for being an eyesore.
Mimi--it's amazing how a pretty woman can lose her attractiveness when she opens her mouth.
You should see the body language of people who appear on TV with her! Kind of appalled and perplexed. Who is this harridan and can I please leave the room?
She's got a degree in journalism. (cough, snicker!)
“Well you convinced me. She is rude and condescending.
However, is she wrong?”
I have been watching your comments throughout this thread. I do not believe you really want an answer.
In fact, I believe you have a hidden agenda which also is a common tactic used by liberals. How about just stating the simple fact that you despise folks who struggle with their weight instead of asking your silly rhetorical question.
But before you do, how about examining every aspect of your own life (check the log in your own eye) to see if you are involved in any kind of unsavory activity (i.e., deceitfulness).
The problem is multifaceted. Our culture, our families, our big business all have a vested interest in the status quo. Changing that sometimes takes a bomb thrower.
However, the overweight person often has psychological factors caused by emotional abuse that must be addressed before considering a "healthy diet". For these people, the bomb thrower is not helpful but neither are those around the fat person who become codependents.
There is room in this problem for the simple-minded shallow approach so long as others are working on the more complex issues.
Well, say what you will, but that is the situation. Not all PR flacks are liked by everyone...but whomever is punching her ticket thinks she’s doing a good job. You are being way too personal about this...we get that you don’t like her...LOL!! But it’s not about you...
I have a weight problem. I am 20 pounds overweight.
My agenda is not hidden, it is the same agenda I have for my children. I teach my children to argue and to argue well. When I see another Freeper resorting to the use of logical fallacies to make their arguments, it saddens me and I want to help them just like I want to help my children.
At present I have three adult children and two on the way to childhood. They agree that one of the best things I taught my children is how to question and how to argue. Apart from my teaching them about our faith, they believe these are the most valuable gifts they have received from me.
This thread was started by someone using arguments against the woman that are all based on attacks of character and not against her arguments. The author of this thread has gotten closer to making a good argument by describing it as shallow and my prior post attempted to begin to develop that into a more coherent argument.
BOTH!
Leni
Huh?
She is a tool for those trying to ram this health care takeover down our throats. There are enormous stakes for the country, because once this bill becomes law we've lost most what remains of our freedom. Soros is shoveling money into the project; he hates America and wants to see us humbled, enslaved and impoverished.
She is useful for directing resentment at a scapegoat. Fatties already know what it's like to have people looking down on them. We all experience dismay when we encounter the morbidly obese.
MissDairy--
Having driven kids to school for many years, there was a marked change in the last ten to fifteen years. It's like--I'd watch all these children go into school, some were pudgy. But in just a few years they started to roll out of school each day like barrels.
How can this be explained simply as calories in-calories out? How much more food are they eating now that they were not eating only ten or fifteen years ago?
We've experienced teenaged boys who open the refrigerator and inhale forty dollars' worth of groceries, only to be rail-thin. We all know that when we reach our forties the pounds are harder to get off. There must be something else going on that calories in-calories out.
(Oh, Mimi--how I look forward to your first hot flash, the weight gain that isn't so easy to control. You're just 39 now. Wonder if you have enamel still left on your teeth?)
I'd like to see a theory tested which doesn't indulge people's distaste for Fatty.
Here it is--how do you fatten cattle for market?
Well, the first thing you do is make that calf healthy. You vaccinate him. You give him antibiotics. Maybe you add hormones to stimulate growth. Gosh, but that calf is hungry! After all, the first sign of ill health in livestock is a loss of appetite. So they eat and eat. Cattleman makes money.
So maybe our epidemic of obesity might have something to do with how healthy we've made our children. Whatever we've done really stimulates appetite.
I'd like to see a real study made of hormones in meat. I spend extra to buy hormone-free meat. Maybe these hormones accumulate in use, somehow? After all, hormones in water does not have a good effect on fish.
And there's the cycle of fat and hormones. Fat produces hormones, itself.
on the way to adulthood (they are teens and it only seems like childhood)
Good point.
Yep.
Attack both her and her argument because:
1. She is condescending; and
2. She needs to mind her own business.
We are adults, not children.
Oh, and I’m skinny, and I don’t like it.
Another thing that has changed is "poverty food." When I was a kid, the simple cheap food on the plate was pinto beans and corn bread. My idea of a perfect meal is beans, greens, sliced tomatoes and I try to not eat corn bread. Now pizza is poverty food--processed flour, tomatoes and fatty cheese. Kids eat way to much pizza. That processed flour with the fat might be part of the culprit.
Everybody is upset at this epidemic with kids. But Mimi Roth serves no useful purpose to anyone except those trying to gain power over our lives.
Mimi Roth wanted the Girl Scouts not to sell their cookies.
I bought extra boxes of them from a lady at work.
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