Posted on 09/28/2009 2:13:22 AM PDT by neverbluffer
The so called Kenyan Bith Certificate ogf Obama has a footprint at the bottom.
The one thing that bothers me to this day is this:
After the Lucas Smith Birth Cert. was publicized, there is not one single comment I can find from anybody regarding the Footprint and how it can disprove the birthers.
I have heard people say that all we have to do is match up Obama’s footprint and we have our evidence.
But, I have not heard anybody from the Obama camp state that it is not his footprint!!! Because it just might be.
This lack of discussion regarding the footprint leads me to believe it might actually be authentic.
Also, would Lucas Smith be so stupid as to risk obstruction of justice charges by signing an affidavit that the cert. is real, especially when it has an actual footprint on it that could be easily verified by Obama removing his sock?
What do others think?
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I think that until somebody bothers to match it up to the Obamessiah, we won’t know.
He has the DOJ heavily into intimidating Judge Carter, and it really depends on his courage and bravery to pursue authentication of that document.
For me, it’s that simple. And I’ve already started praying for the safety of the judge in the event that he decides to pursue it.
Yes, we are at that crossroads.
One big problem is that we don’t know exactly the extent that government officials from all sides and branches are complicit in this fraud. We know that they are ALL hiding something from us about this man, both republicans and democrats, law enforcement (of course which is now run by the perpetratrator of the lie) so we’re rather SOL!
The people are strictly alone in this effort to enforce the Constitutional law by which presidents are allowed to sit in the White House. All we can do is stand ready to support those which are fighting to help us enforce it.
God bless, Orly Taitz, Phil Berg, Leo D’onoFrio, and all of those who are taking literal action to help us. May he keep them safe who wish to bring those complicit to justice.
Very interesting point.
It does make the anti-birthers look even more suspect than ever.
He’s been able to suppress or destroy all records of his childhood and his college days. He’s put a gag on all of his relatives and acquaintances. Suppressing just one footprint is chicken feed.
I think the footprint should become the next anti-obama Icon and poster-craze like the Joker Poster.
How accurate is a footprint as a means of identifying an adult?
just as good as a fingerprint
We’ve been praying for the safety of ALL on the plaintiff’s side and this court. D’Onofrio’s account of getting a filing to the SCOTUS was just plain scary.
I think that if you can't get hin to provide a birth certificate then you'll never get him to take off his shoe.
And in the event the Judge decides not to? Then what?
Well, of course! You've cracked the case!
I thought the same thing. It seems that a judge could issue an order for hussein to provide a footprint for comparison - IF there are still any judges left who are willing to enforce The Constitution.
Excellent visual.
Odd that NO ONE (WND’s investigators, Orly’s contacts, or other agencies) have not simply contacted The Chief Administrator who is currently employed by the hospital ?
All they have to do is ask “did you sign this ?”
Plus, why hasn’t anyone come up with another BC from 1961 to see if other BCs from that era have footprints on them.... I agree that this whole thing is VERY puzzling.
Lastly, Lucas Smith has a very tainted past, which doesn’t help...but let’s hope it’s the real deal.
That's all we want anyway. Access to our Natural Born Presidents Records. It is beyond ridiculous that we have not yet seem them.
I think we need a tour to the Presidents Birth place. Offer a thousand dollars to the first person to find it and place a plaque on it.
Have people show up in Honolulu, asking for directions to the hallowed birthplace.
The kid who did the Acorn film could film this. Interviewing people as they come and go looking for the Birth place.
lol, I guess our weapon is supposed to be our vote, which is the only tool we have for removal...
We’re going to have to watch this process very closely in the days ahead. When a president can legally put $800,000 into an organization and literally hire people to sign up and vote for him, even that system is getting flawed. It’s just too easy to go down the telephone book and put names to documents, and then sign up football players residing in other states, and check out the names on tombstones.
Plus the number of ACORN workers employed by the local voter registration authority will run anything through as legitimate. How can we possibly police the voting process anymore for a fair election? Even if all voter authority employees were vetted for their attachment to political anti-American groups, they would just lie about it and there’s no way of tracking them down.
However I did see some signs in DC on September 25th...’WE CAME UNARMED.......THIS TIME! ROFL, I thought that was pretty kewl!
Then we just have to keep hammering and not let up...and we have to keep the faith that the guy will be removed in a peaceful process 1,208 days from now.
Or else we’ll have to invoke our second Amendment rights and take the country back! :)
Well, that did it.
I’m heading to Best Buy for a new keyboard.
WND did. Administrators at Coast Provincial Hospital in Mombasa refused to authenticate the record.
Plus, why hasn’t anyone come up with another BC from 1961 to see if other BCs from that era have footprints on them.... I agree that this whole thing is VERY puzzling.
WND did. They ones they found look nothing like Smith's.
Lastly, Lucas Smith has a very tainted past, which doesn’t help...but let’s hope it’s the real deal.
Even WND has raised the BS flag on Smith and they've entertained practically every other Birther conspiracy.
Plus, ever seen a BC footprint without so much as a single smudge?
Was that the time he was followed by black helicopters and men in yellow hazmat suits?
I just don't think that's high on their “to-do” list.
“One big problem is that we don’t know exactly the extent that government officials from all sides and branches are complicit in this fraud.”
Or, BHO was born in Hawaii and this is all just paranoid fantasy.
Ask yourself which of those two options is the simpler explanation.
But say the Chief Administrator publicly stated that the second Kenyan BC is a crock. Say that happened, would you recognize this second Kenyan BC as also being fraudulent?
Or would you start to think that the Administrator is in on the scam or otherwise being pressured?
Really, we all believe he was born in HI, but we want to see his certificate that was issued at birth in 1961, and any amendment(s) to that document(s).
When I go to the bar for a drink they want to see ID, even though my hair is starting to turn gray. It's routine.
When a Man is elected to command the US armed forces and executive branch, I am entitled to see his documents.
I am a natural born citizen. I would have absolutely no problems showing every document related to my birth if elected to the Presidency. Why cant he ??? I have only one document. I think he's got a bunch!!!!
I wish it were so, but the legal structures to force this don’t seem to exist.
But I am optimistic that at least one US state will have this kind of legal requirement in place before the 2012 election.
Can you footprint a cloven hoof?
Don’t spoil our party , Ha Ha!!
Really, we all believe he was born in HI, but we want to see his certificate that was issued at birth in 1961, and any amendment(s) to that document(s).
When I go to the bar for a drink they want to see ID, even though my hair is starting to turn gray. It’s routine.
When a Man is elected to command the US armed forces and executive branch, I am entitled to see his documents.
I am a natural born citizen. I would have absolutely no problems showing every document related to my birth if elected to the Presidency. Why cant he ??? I have only one document. I think he’s got a bunch!!!!
It is the responsibility of Obama’s political opposition to disprove that web posted information which has been subsequently verified by the Director of the state of Hawaii’s Health Department, the Registrar of Vital Records and the Director of Communications of the state Health Department.
It is not Obama’s responsiblility to provide any additional information.
The Attorney General of the state of Hawaii, Mark Bennett, (who is a Republican) has the authority to seek a subpoena for the original copy of Obama’s birth records under Hawaii law. Attorney General Bennett has not chosen to seek such a subpoena.
All of the state of Hawaii Health Department officials who have verified Obama’s vital records as authentic serve at the pleasure of the Republican Governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle who endorsed John McCain for President and who spoke at the Republican National Convention in St. Paul, MN.
I post this ONLY to show what the Obama opposition is up against.
Have faith. Armed forces have cause and standing to see where this man is from, and the documents that support that declaration. I think we can all agree that that's only fair. That's why the case is still ticking in a California court. On it's face, its a fair request.
I’m not much on paranoid fantasy’s or coincidence...
The man wouldn’t be spending millions to keep from releasing a $20 (tops) copy of his Original Certificate of Birth, which, especially as president, he could in less than a few hours.
But as far as I’m concerned, even from the day he was born he was never a natural born citizen. He was born a British subject (by the blood, which is what natural born meant when the Constitution was written) through his father’s Kenyan citizenship. He was never the son of two US citizens.
And he will never be acknowledged by this person as a legititmate president of the United States because he was never a natural born citizen as required by our Constitution.
>>> Excellent visual.
Ah thanks!... I worked SO HARD on that... hehe.
With the millions of press photos out there on Obama, might there be one of him on vacation sitting with his feet up in a beach chair?
Doesn’t replying to these message detract from your worshipping mr. pretty teeth ?
YES INDEED ! This wins “Visual of the week” HANDS DOWN !
If our lovely media wasn’t under a GAG order, they could probably promote this !
Well, we here at FR appreciate it nonetheless !
Thx...made my day !
I don’t know...if it’s a fraud, why haven’t the LEFT debunked it yet ?
but I “DO” know that anyone that spends 1 million dollars hiding his past and locks his frigin’ birth certificate in a vault BY COURT ORDER as well as his college records BY COURT ORDER (!) and claims to be TRANSPARENT is not playing with a full deck of cards !
That’s a NO BRAINER for people who don’t judge others by how white their teeth are and how well they read from a teleprompter — after all, we do have 57 states, right ?
No, I don’t think we need to be intimidating the voters, but I do think we should go back to verifiable paper ballots from a polling place. I think we need to get out of the business of mailing out ballots.
I think people should have to go to the courthouse and present ID to prove up their registration. Having people like ACORN registering voters willy nilly on the streets is absurd.
What they found were government records, Smith's certificate purports to be from the Hospital. The seal is of the hospital, not the government per se. The signature on the copy is that of a Hospital official, not a government head clerk.
WND's documents were all from the Kenya Colony. Mombasa, was in the Kenyan Protectorate. That had different history, and technically belonged to the Sultan of Zanzibar in '61, but was under British Protection. The colony and the protectorate did not become part of the same governmental entity until Independence, which was after '61 by a couple of years.
I don't know if it's real or not, but the typical critiques are off the mark.
“if it’s a fraud, why haven’t the LEFT debunked it yet ?”
The same reason that NASA doesn’t feel any great need to de-bunk moon landing denial?
So, let me get this straight, the Nordyke twins (born in HI the DAY AFTER OBAMA) have made copies of their long form birth certificates available for the WORLD to see, but Obama, who has issued the following statement proclaiming “transparency” and “openness” INSISTS that he (having the most powerful position on earth) maintain SEALED documents regarding his identity, place of birth and the parents listed on his BC. Here’s his quote:
“My (Obama’s) Administration is committed to creating an unprecedented level of openness (’open’ is antithesis of ‘hidden’), as in birth records, passports, medical history, college records, etc.) in Government. We will work together to ensure the public trust and establish a system of transparency, (transparency - as in being able to SEE a ‘real’ birth certificate, for example ) public participation, and collaboration. Openness (Translated CONCEALMENT in Democratic dictionary) will strengthen our democracy and promote efficiency and effectiveness in Government. Government should be transparent (translated ‘secretive, hidden’ ). Transparency (well, yes, TRUE transparency) promotes accountability and provides information for citizens (hmmm...interesting phrase-PROVIDE INFORMATION TO CITIZENS ! ) about what their Government is doing. Information maintained by the Federal Government is a national asset. My Administration will take appropriate action, consistent with law and policy, to disclose (disclose - reveal, show, hmmm....interesting word ?) information rapidly (RAPIDLY -Hmmm....We’ve only been asking for the BC for a YEAR now ! ) in forms that the public can readily find (well, kinda hard for the “public” to READILY FIND ‘ANYTHING’ when it’s all HIDDEN and SEALED -— hellooooo????) and use.
“DISCLOSE INFORMATION, OPENNESS, TRANSPARENCY. PROVIDE INFORMATION TO CITIZENS”
Let’s see -— aforementioned docs are SEALED (that is, NOT disclosed, in case you have trouble with the English language) by court orders and your ‘defending’ this outright hypocrisy ... do the words “check up from the neck up” ring a bell ?
He promised transparency, and he's not giving it.
Only a fool would have believed that he would do so.
I can't say I'm surprised, but that doesn't change anything.
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