Posted on 09/20/2009 7:23:34 AM PDT by george76
I recently received e-mails from friends showing mother cows with their rectums and female organs torn from their bodies by the wolves. These cows were lying down and the blood and raw meat trailed down on their legs. You could tell they were in awful pain. I am sure hundreds of our deer and elk are suffering the same way.
All you wolf lovers should take a good look at these pictures and share them with your families and your children, show them what these savage animals are really all about. Anyone that supports these evil acts are evil themselves. Society would not allow a domestic dog or a human to do these tortuous acts with out punishment. A domestic dog would be shot and a human would be put in jail.
We have lived in the Quartz Flat area since 1970 and always felt safe walking in our woods and enjoying the wildlife. Not any more, after finding deer, elk killed and left to rot and fawns half eaten while still partially in the doe; we cannot enjoy our walks. A person comes home sickened and disgusted. Four mule deer were found up Quartz Creek, all were taken down chewed up and left to die. The wolves did not even eat them, just wasted the meat. Tracks showed two adult wolves and two smaller wolves, I am sure they were teaching the young how to kill for sport. That is what these killing machines are: sport killers.
The state Department of Fish, Wildlife and Parks and judges need to get some intestinal fortitude and eliminate these horrible animals. We Montana citizens need to get real vocal about this disgrace.
We have seven wolves just one mile from our house and we have virtually no wildlife left on our flat. The wolves have been here since last winter and have either killed or run off all the game. Our elk herds always calve in this area; if loggers were disturbing the calving season they would be run out of the woods. But the wolves kill and disrupt the calving and nothing is done.
Letter to the editor
This was clearly predicted by those that truly understand nature, but ignored by those that do not.
Wolves are also outcompeting bears for food.
In July, outside Cody, WY, a man was attacked by a Griz sow, with 3 cubs. After the initial blind side attack and a brief retreat, the Griz threatned another attack and the man was able to shoot and kill the sow......it was only 255 pounds! That is about half of the normal weight for a nursing sow (500 lbs.)
It isn’t just the unusal 3rd cub, but a clear lack of food that contributed to her serious underweight condition.
My advice to the writer: Shoot, shovel and shutup.
Same with foxes. They will eat half a lamb as it is being born and tear at the laboring ewe, but if English people try to hunt them in order to defend their flocks, they are considered cruel to animals.
Wildlife managers say a grizzly bear killed 13 sheep last month on a grazing allotment in Caribou-Targhee National Forest.
Mark Bruscino, bear management program supervisor for the Wyoming Game and Fish Department, said the bear killed eight ewes and five lambs Aug. 15. Bruscino estimates grizzlies have killed 35 cattle and 45 sheep statewide so far this year.
I’d forward that email, if anyone has it.
They tried to re-introduce the red wolf back into the Smokies several years back. The ever so wise fish and wildlife folks denigrated those who complained and said they would go after the cows in Cades Cove.
Sure ‘nuff, the wolves went for the cows. Fortunately, the population of wolves did not take.
These creatures were killed out for a reason: they are not warm cuddly nature pets. They are killers and do not belong around people.
Wouldn’t you expect a malnourished sow to lose her cubs rather than giving birth to them?
I agree with removing the wolves, but I find this getting all upset because how one animal is killed by another in nature engaging in childish sentimentality. It is a practical matter that wolf populations are a bad idea in cattle and horse country, but it does not follow that this is because these wolves are somehow morally culpable in a human sense. Allowing the wolves to remain is bad because they cause wanton damage to our chattel, not because they are morally culpable.
A large fraction of the British population have been completely overtaken by this senseless sentimentality, and we should take heed and not allow it to happen here also.
To use Tennyson's immortal phrase, "Nature, red in tooth and claw" is a statement of fact. Predators engage in "beastly" behavior because they are, after all, beasts.
Pretty clear the wolves are getting to the elk, leaving little else for the Griz.
We lost 15 goats to coyotes just this year. In our mountains, the coyote population seems to have exploded lately.
Which would lead me to conclude the malnourishment occurred AFTER giving birth.
BTTT It sure is. Thanks for the ping.
While most state wildlife “manager” in the areas that have big predator populations (cougars and wolves) won’t admit to it, I had a biologist in Oregon quite a few years ago tell me that you could put a transparency of a cat population over a map of mule deer populations and the thing looked like a photographic negative with minimal mule deer where the cats were and heavy populations where they weren’t.
Stupid person can’t see the forest for the trees.
It’s called NATURE!
A woman walking outdoors with her children and dog should consider buying a Saiga 12 equipped with a 12 round magazine of buckshot, a Remington 1100 with a ten shot magazine extension, or a light rifle like an AK-47, Mini-14 or Mini-30, AR-15, etc..
Take no chances of being part of a wolf pack killing frenzy. Hopefully, we will not have to one day listen to some ‘cute, commie, GamePerson’ as she weeps crocodile tears while regretfully describing how the wolf pack killed a mother, all her children AND their pet dog.
Take no chances if the wolves move within 50 yards.
Having watched a large bodied predator attack from only 35 feet, trust me when I say that wild predators ARE a risk to humans.
Keeping attacking predators at a distance usually means gunpowder.
Remember, “When gunpowder speaks, beasts obey.”
Anyone that attributes evil to any animal other than man is a kook.
#4 buckshot will sort this problem out real quick
...getting all upset because how one animal is killed by another in nature engaging in childish sentimentality.
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Agreed!
So true. We have deer in town now because the mountain lions are in .....the mountains.
Deer go up into the mountain they get eaten. Down in town, where speed limits are slow they are safe. This has happened over the last 10 years. Before you would only see deer in town in the dead of winter.
Now the deer celebrate the 4th of July with us.
Idiots on FR do it all the time. Shame too.
Do they eat politicians and lawyers?...just a thought..
While this lady is rightly upset that wolves have killed livestock and game animals in her immediate area it’s taking it a little far to classify them as evil or anyone supporting their reintroduction as evil.
That said, it’s been documented over and over that wolves kill for sport as well as food. Much has been made by econuts that the reintroduction of wolves is essential to the ecosystem, I say that’s bunk.
We have managed wildlife just fine in the Western states without wolves for the better part of a century. Wolves compete with man for the meat that wildlife provide. Wolves also kill livestock the ranchers are not fully reimbursed for and the money that is reimbursed is taxpayer money in most cases.
The reintroduction of wolves in the lower 48 is costing us dearly and I for one think it was a big mistake. The econuts have won this war and everyone will be the worse off for it.
Their "feelings" are creating enough damage to make any person with a "lick of sense" shake their head in disbelief.
Crazy times, crazy people.
Safari Club International Radio will be reporting on the wolf hunting today....FYI
Safari Club International Radio will be reporting on the wolf hunting today....FYI
9k tags sold in Montana, 2 killed this week....
wish I could go....
9k tags sold in Montana, 2 killed this week....
wish I could go....
11k tags sold in Idaho, 220 wolves to be killed....
No reports of wolf kills in Idaho as of yet...
75 wolf limit in Montana
It is a challenge to take a wolf, they are not predictable...
sci.org
All they really know how to do is torment everyone and make everything cost more!!! Without ceasing!!!
I have a cousin in Pontrhydygroes, Wales who has problems with foxes attacking his sheep. He's not allowed to do anything about it. He has to call the local "ranger" who is permitted access to a firearm to dispatch the foxes. A good 12 ga shotgun or Ruger Mini-14 with some varmint loads is really al he needs to control the problem. Too bad those even guns aren't allowed to ordinary "subjects".
My brother that used to trap cats for a living told me that one particularly bad winter in the mountains near Winnemucca, Nevada, he ate a big female when they ran out of food in the camp. I asked him what that was like. He said with a big grin, “It tasted like chicken!”
“it’s taking it a little far to classify them as evil or anyone supporting their reintroduction as evil.”
If those who knowingly do wrong are evil, then predator reintroduction program participants may accurately be classified as “evil”
PS They know what they are doing and do it anyway, and will so do “Yea verily, unto the very last paycheck”.
I recently received e-mails from friends showing mother cows with their rectums and female organs torn from their bodies by the wolves. These cows were lying down and the blood and raw meat trailed down on their legs. You could tell they were in awful pain. I am sure hundreds of our deer and elk are suffering the same way.
That was the email[s] I was asking about. If anyone has those with the pics....
I have them. Will post tomorrow.
Not the same attacks. Still looking for the exact ones.
These are similar :
Warning : they are shocking.
Mexican wolves will not be removed. despite 7th attack (photo’s)
http://wolfcrossing.org/?p=1479
A hunters personal encounter with a depredating wolf pack in Wyoming
http://wolfcrossing.org/?p=1467
thanks
and yes.
Merlin, that’s what the foxhunts used to be for, and it’s why the farmers supported them. They really did serve a purpose in a country that does not have rabies or a competitor to keep the fox population down.
So they lost their spines with respect to both firearms and fox hunts. Now, they lose their sheep to the foxes. It's a matter of social impediment. What will it take to fix it? Some real conservatives running for office? It has always disturbed me to see the embrace of socialism in Wales. Plaid Cymru and their ilk.
The watermelons dream that the wolves will kill off our livestock, force our homesteads into foreclosure, then the ecos can try to grab our guns & freedom...as we are led off their to re-education camps.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQ
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