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10 greatest NBA centers
San Antonio Express-News ^ | 08/30/2009 | Source: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/marty_burns/04/04/center.rankings/index.html

Posted on 08/31/2009 9:35:20 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

1. Wilt Chamberlain

2. Bill Russell

3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

4. George Mikan

5. Shaquille O’Neal

6. Hakeem Olajuwon

7. Moses Malone

8. David Robinson

9. Bill Walton

10. Patrick Ewing


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KEYWORDS: basketball; nba
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All well known. Except George Mikan? Will have to do some research to see what he did.

Shaq? No. 5??? I guess they give credit for a fat mouth and a fat carcass to go with it.

1 posted on 08/31/2009 9:35:21 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

22 comments here at the source.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/list/10_greatest_NBA_centers.html?c=y&viewAllComments=y

Pretty valid comments, I must say.


2 posted on 08/31/2009 9:36:14 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I am Legend)
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To: Responsibility2nd
All well known. Except George Mikan? Will have to do some research to see what he did.

I'll save you the trouble. George Mikan of the Minneapolis Lakers invented the modern position of center.

3 posted on 08/31/2009 9:38:03 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (You're either in or in the way.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Olajuwan in his prime vs Shaq in his prime? Hakeem would have made him look big, slow and foolish.


4 posted on 08/31/2009 9:39:04 AM PDT by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

All great players.

Ewing the only man with no ring?


5 posted on 08/31/2009 9:40:10 AM PDT by BGHater (Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Meadowlark Lemon is not on the list?!!

Go Spurs!!

6 posted on 08/31/2009 9:41:23 AM PDT by laotzu
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To: Responsibility2nd

ehhh..who cares


7 posted on 08/31/2009 9:41:54 AM PDT by MajorTom56 (Who needs ground control ...)
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To: cspackler

You gotta remember that Hakeem’s Rockets beat Shaq’s Magic 4-0 to win the 1995 NBA Finals...I was thrilled about it ‘cuz Clyde Drexler got his ring!


8 posted on 08/31/2009 9:43:04 AM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: cspackler; Responsibility2nd

Agreed, Olajuwon was the best I have seen in my lifetime. I think he is top 3, along with Russell and Wilt.

Wilt was an amazing athlete, period. He was a fast 100M sprinter, and then after retiring from the NBA, ran SUPER-marathons (100 miles).

His scoring avg is legendery, both on and off the court.

After that, Kareem, Robinson, and Shaq should all be in there.


9 posted on 08/31/2009 9:43:56 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Responsibility2nd

The list is fine but Bill Russell has to go first. He was a winner. That counts for me. Chamberlain was probably more skilled as was Jabbar but Bill Russell won all of those championships.


10 posted on 08/31/2009 9:44:37 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: BGHater

You’re right about Ewing...what I don’t understand is why he hasn’t been given a coaching job yet, esp. in New York. Did he leave the team on bad terms?


11 posted on 08/31/2009 9:45:49 AM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: ChrisInAR

I remember that.

Because Robinson won the MVP that year. But Olajuwon won what really matters:

Championship ring.


12 posted on 08/31/2009 9:45:55 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I am Legend)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Any bets on how many offspring amongst the ten?

1280 is the number I'm going with.

13 posted on 08/31/2009 9:46:50 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Responsibility2nd

I wish we had more people in public life who were like David Robinson.


14 posted on 08/31/2009 9:47:55 AM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: ChrisInAR

I think he’s on the staff of the Magic.


15 posted on 08/31/2009 9:50:12 AM PDT by BGHater (Insanity is voting for Republicans and expecting Conservatism.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

What, Shawn Bradley didn’t make the list, bogus list.


16 posted on 08/31/2009 9:51:42 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BGHater

Yeah, I knew that, but I mistakenly forgot to say Head Coaching job...sorry, my mistake.


17 posted on 08/31/2009 9:52:04 AM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Tim Duncan often plays the post and possibly should replace Ewing in the list.


18 posted on 08/31/2009 9:53:34 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: dfwgator

Or Eric Dampier? LOL

How about Magic Johnson...he won an NBA Title playing center! That was a GREAT game, IMO (& series, too, tho I was rooting for Dr. J).


19 posted on 08/31/2009 9:55:00 AM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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What, Shawn Bradley didn’t make the list, bogus list.

I think he was drafted number 3 by the sixers.

But I think his nome de plume is "the great white joke"

20 posted on 08/31/2009 9:55:34 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: dfwgator

Where's Manute? :o)

21 posted on 08/31/2009 9:56:08 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: dfwgator
What, Shawn Bradley didn’t make the list, bogus list.

Neither did Manute Bol. I call shenanigans!

22 posted on 08/31/2009 9:56:47 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Barack Obama - The wrong man, at the wrong time, for the wrong country.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

My dad says he didn't hustle in the 4th quarter!!!!

23 posted on 08/31/2009 9:57:29 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Responsibility2nd

But has anyone ever seen George Mikan play? .... btw, thanks for the thread. I can understand it. Too many threads have these stupid teaser titles that tell you nothing but have those irritating “ .........” at the end of them.


24 posted on 08/31/2009 9:58:55 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (nothing is normal anymore)
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To: ChrisInAR
The Houston Rockets brought Ewing in to tutor Yao a couple of years ago.
25 posted on 08/31/2009 9:59:11 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: Niteranger68

And no Georghe Murasan, either.

26 posted on 08/31/2009 9:59:35 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Are you the kid in the cockpit of the first Airplane! movie?


27 posted on 08/31/2009 10:00:18 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (nothing is normal anymore)
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To: ChrisInAR

I second that. I’m from San Antonio. I’ve closely followed Robinson’s career since he was in the Navy.

If this was a ranking on the classiest centers..... David Robinson would rank #1, #2 and #3.

He was an NBA superstar. On and off the court.


28 posted on 08/31/2009 10:01:08 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I am Legend)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Well I do like movies about gladiators.


29 posted on 08/31/2009 10:01:23 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: InvisibleChurch

Oldtimers have. Bud Grant, legendary Vikings coach, was one of his teammates for a time. He made the 50th anniversary all-time list and fourth is certainly not too low a position for him to occupy here. In his day, he was as dominant as Shaq or Olajuwon in theirs.


30 posted on 08/31/2009 10:06:45 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (You're either in or in the way.)
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To: InterceptPoint

InterceptPoint wrote:
The list is fine but Bill Russell has to go first. He was a winner. That counts for me. Chamberlain was probably more skilled as was Jabbar but Bill Russell won all of those championships.

..... Absolutely agree. Chamberlain had all the stratospheric scoring stats and press coverage, but the basic idea behind basketball is to WIN THE GAME. Russell ultimately had to rent an entire vault to store all his championship rings - 11 titles in 13 seasons. On that basis you MUST go with Russell as No. 1.


31 posted on 08/31/2009 10:12:18 AM PDT by Senator John Blutarski (The progress of government: republic, democracy, technocracy, bureaucracy, plutocracy, kleptocracy,)
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To: Responsibility2nd
The omission of Greg Oden has destroyed your credibility! /sarc
32 posted on 08/31/2009 10:18:57 AM PDT by tatown (Obama is Kenyan for "turd")
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To: Responsibility2nd

I got to meet George Mikan shortly before he died. What a gentleman, what an athlete. Too bad that he lived in the era before massive TV contracts and free agency allowed the players to become as rich as kings.


33 posted on 08/31/2009 10:20:12 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: InvisibleChurch
But has anyone ever seen George Mikan play?

I've seen him on video and based on what I saw he doesn't belong on the list. Not nearly as athletic at many if not most of the current centers. Plus the competition was nothing like it is today. But maybe a "real old timer" can set us straight. He was, however, the NBA's first really dominant player. That does go for something.

34 posted on 08/31/2009 10:20:23 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: ChrisInAR

Olajuwon is supposedly a good guy as well.


35 posted on 08/31/2009 10:21:21 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: Colonel_Flagg

I hadn’t heard of him either. But according to wikipedia, he almost won a Congressional seat as a Republican during the 50s:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Mikan


36 posted on 08/31/2009 10:22:23 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: cspackler

“Olajuwan in his prime vs Shaq in his prime? Hakeem would have made him look big, slow and foolish.”

We had that matchup in the 1995 NBA finals, and young Shaq played almost as well as Olajuwan at his peak. The rest of the Orlando Magic stunk. On the whole I’d agree that Olajuwan was a bit better player than Shaq.

Which makes the 1983 NCAA championship of NC State over Houston (featuring Olajuwan and Clyde Drexler) all the more miraculous.


37 posted on 08/31/2009 10:23:41 AM PDT by devere
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To: Responsibility2nd

I have to make a comment about Bill Walton who I once met at a trade show. He was so much fun to watch. No center before or since had his skill at initiating the fast break. On the defensive board he could have the ball out of his hands before his feet hit the ground with a pass to a guard racing up the court . It was an amazing thing to watch. No center that I’m aware of has come close to matching his ability in this area.


38 posted on 08/31/2009 10:24:30 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Responsibility2nd
I don't really follow the NBA, but I think Willis Reed should be on the list. I was at a playoff game sitting under the basket when the Knicks were playing the Milwaukee Whatevers with Jabbar (then Lew Alcindor) and the much shorter Reed just dominated him. Take Ewing off the list and put Reed in his place.

ML/NJ

39 posted on 08/31/2009 10:36:44 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: riverdawg

I consider Hakeem to be a class act too, most definitely (& Clyde, also!).


40 posted on 08/31/2009 10:38:47 AM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“If this was a ranking on the classiest centers..... David Robinson would rank #1, #2 and #3.”

David Robinson was a fine basketball player, but without Tim Duncan he would never have won an NBA championship. I’d give Duncan his place on this list. Perhaps Robinson deserves Ewing’s spot.

And of course William F. Russell should rank first. It’s all about winning!


41 posted on 08/31/2009 10:53:58 AM PDT by devere
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To: Responsibility2nd
My worst guess about an NBA draft was SA taking Robinson first.
I thought he was overrated and if he was that good LA would
steal him before he finished his Military commitment.

I saw Armand Gillian play and I thought he should go number one as he rebounded and scored without plays being run for him.

LOL, I was very wrong.
I don't think Armand did anything as a pro.

42 posted on 08/31/2009 11:37:13 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: InterceptPoint
Not nearly as athletic at many if not most of the current centers.

It was a different game then. Mikan is the reason (according to Wikipedia) that goaltending was made illegal, the foul lane was widened, and the shot clock was introduced. I believe that any man who is creative enough to force rule changes deserves special consideration for creativity and resourcefulness. That's one of the reasons Deacon Jones was so great in football.
43 posted on 08/31/2009 12:15:13 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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That’s correct. Mikan changed the game and made the modern game possible. For him to put up the numbers he did before the shot clock and with the ‘key’ actually shaped like a key, is really something.


44 posted on 08/31/2009 12:39:43 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (You're either in or in the way.)
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“You gotta remember that Hakeem’s Rockets beat Shaq’s Magic 4-0 to win the 1995 NBA Finals...I was thrilled about it ‘cuz Clyde Drexler got his ring!”

That was an amazing playoff series and I'm not the greatest basket ball fan. Hakeem was probably right at his peak versus Shaq being a rugged (and huge) youngster in the league. Hakeem flat out smarted Shaq one-on-one and was a lot better team player to boot.

Clyde the Glide came home to show his stuff big time. He was at the end of his career and gave it everything - Nothing held back.

45 posted on 08/31/2009 1:09:14 PM PDT by Hootowl99
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

There would be no San Antonio Spurs today without the Admiral.

His selfless move to allow Timmy the lead position saved the Spurs. His willingness to take less salary when he could have jumped ship and earned more saved the Spurs.

Overrated??? Not in a million years.


46 posted on 08/31/2009 1:17:54 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I am Legend)
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To: Hootowl99

I wish the NBA would put the Rockets / Magic Finals series on DVD. Houston had a fantastic playoff run that season.


47 posted on 08/31/2009 7:22:16 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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No center before or since had his skill at initiating the fast break.

Did you ever watch Wilt when he was with the Lakers? Coach Sharman let Wilt focus on defense, and when Wilt pulled down a rebound (and he got around 18 per game) he would fire the basketball down court to a speeding West, Goodrich, or Hairston. He actually threw it the way a normal sized person throws a softball, and he threw strikes!

48 posted on 08/31/2009 8:12:39 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Health Care Reform has met the DEATH Panel.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
Mikan did have one rival in his college career at DePaul, seven footer Bob Kurland of Oklahoma A&M (now Oklahoma State University). Unfortunately, they weren't able to continue their rivalry in the pros, since Kurland opted to take a job with Phillips Petroleum and play for their AAU team. It was truly a different age in basketball.
49 posted on 09/01/2009 4:38:06 AM PDT by Route797
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To: Senator John Blutarski
..... Absolutely agree. Chamberlain had all the stratospheric scoring stats and press coverage, but the basic idea behind basketball is to WIN THE GAME. Russell ultimately had to rent an entire vault to store all his championship rings - 11 titles in 13 seasons. On that basis you MUST go with Russell as No. 1.

One of the great unanswered questions of life is what would Wilt and Russell have done had they switched teams.

50 posted on 09/01/2009 4:44:18 AM PDT by Route797
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