No guy should have trouble saying which one he prefers...
Posted on 08/30/2009 3:08:07 AM PDT by Scanian
When she was 16, Crystal Renn signed a $250,000 modeling contract and moved to the city. But after starving herself for years to stay at 95 pounds, she gave it all up to become a plus-size model -- and finally, at size 12, achieved major success. With her memoir, "Hungry," due out Sept. 8, Renn tells her story to The Post.
Nine years ago, when I was 14 years old, a modeling scout spotted me at an etiquette class in my hometown of Clinton, Miss., and pulled me aside to show me a photo of supermodel Gisele in a clingy white gown. "This could be you," he said.
There was just one problem. I was 5-foot-8 and 165 pounds. The scout told me that if I lost 8 inches off my 43-inch hips, he could make me a famous model in New York City.
Until I met the scout, I never paid attention to what I ate. If I wanted a cupcake, I ate two. After the scout put dreams of stardom in my head, weight loss became my job.
By the end of ninth grade, I was eating only veggies or plain chicken. Combined with two-hour workouts every day, I quickly dropped to 120 pounds.
By 2002, I was too thin for a size zero. I called the modeling scout. "Come now," I told him.
The minute he saw me, he said, "You're going to New York!"
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
No guy should have trouble saying which one he prefers...
It’s astounding that a size 12 is a “plus-size model.” She looks magnificent.
Good job Crystal!
I don’t get it. She doesn’t look any different than any actress you might see for most of film history.
Agreed, on both counts. The “after” version of her is what we would have once called “normal”.
I think the pose and hairstyle were suggested by a Jane Russell photo.
Somewhat off-topic, sizes don’t mean much. I was looking through skirt patterns in my “get to it someday ...” box, and found one from the 1970s. (An older person gave it to me.) It said that to wear a size 10 in that pattern, I should have a 25” waist. I guess I can measure my 11-year-old and see if she can use it, because I doubt I’ll ever have a 25” waist again, after 9 kids, no matter what I weigh!
9 kids! Wow, Tax-chick, just wow!
I think you’re right. Jane Russell, Sophia Loren, and Briggite Bardot, in there respective decades, were all probably more known for their looks, than their acting. But, to me, they don’t seem any thinner than this woman. We are so far out-of-whack today from the 40s, 50s, 60s?
No doubt sizes have changed. There were no zeros back then, so when my jeans say size three i automatically assume its a least really a size 5. You are right about the old patterns but maybe that was a misses size. I used to wear a 4 in misses, but since they have changed the sizes, who knows?
Good point! Back in the day when one could assume "misses" hadn't had a lot of children ;-).
In the before picture, she kind of reminds me of Ali McGraw.
And looking like that I bet her husband is working on a plan for double figures
And, if a guy prefers the before picture than what?
Before is concentration camp. After is fantastic. However, she is no real-world “plus size” in the after pic. Not even close.
Oops. ...sorry, I thought the model had 9 children.. My bad!!!!!!
(heh)
Oh, I see. Preferring thin women is somehow wrong and should be denigrated. Gotcha!
I CAN HAS CHEEZCAEK?
(heh) And pie. There will be lots of pie.
See what Twiggy started back in 1966? The industry still hasn’t got over her.
Even today women set their standard of beauty and sex appeal by what’s in women’s magazines. If they want to know what appeals to men they should look in Playboy instead.
Is a hugh factor, imo. It's not irrelevant that the model under discussion, when she had the figure fashion photographers wanted, wasn't menstruating and had no libido. Gay man largely run the fashion industry, and gay men are frightened by healthy female sexuality and healthy female figures.
You're right. The face, and the ironed 60s hair.
And healthy female sexuality and healthy female figures don’t hold any appeal for them either. Sometimes I think their idea of the perfect body is that of a pubescent boy.
Dang, thanks for that. I was scratching my head trying to think of who she looked like.
I don’t think I would have got there without your observation.
Thanks for that.....TPD
I agree.
Not that healthy women can’t be thin. Healthy bodies, both male and female, come in a variety of sizes and shapes. However, if major bodily systems are shutting down, something is seriously wrong.
This young lady is 5’8” tall and weighed what my 11-year-old weighs: under 100 lbs. My daughter is the average height and weight for a girl her age, according to our doctor told us earlier this month.
(Median height for an 11-year-old girl is roughly 4’10”.)
Like the concentration camp label. The absurdly thin doesn’t look good or even healthy.
Isn’t there anything in-between?
At 6’, my fighting weight should be around 170lbs....that means a 32” slacks and a 42” jacket.
With weightlifting 6 days a week I settle in around 200lbs with a 34” waist and a 45” jacket at a little over 50yrs old.
I don’t stay in shape because I’m concerned about my appearance but my health.
I want to be around when my grandkids grow up.....
Healthy living and staying in shape is not difficult, it just requires a limited amount of personal discipline.....
Outside of a true medical condition, everything else is just an excuse.......
That stated, I don’t care what others do, it’s their own personal decision and they must live with the consequences.....
Actually, when I saw the before and after pix, I said “Twiggy” and then “Marilyn.”
Of course homos dominate fashion design with it’s preference for sexually ambiguous-looking models.
Queers are subversive little bastards who love to put their perverted stamp on as much of American life as possible.
In the “before” picture, she reminded me of a survivor of a concentration camp. In the “after” photo, she looks like a Venus.
my 15-yo daughter, who is average-sized and very healthy but feels 'inadequate', and I just had a long talk yesterday.
IMHO, designers also wants their precious works of art to hang correctly on a body simply to show it off. They couldn't care less what it takes for a person to get to the point where they are merely a hanger. The model is not a person to them...the model is simply a tool.
I also wonder about pedophiles in the fashion industry. Ultra-thin women not only look more masculine, they look like children. There was a time in this country when men would have no interest in “bony girls,” until they matured into women and developed some curves.
I know this for a fact because I watch old black and white cowboy movies. LOL.
After pic is HOT HOT HOT !!!!
Women’s dress sizes don’t mean much to me, I’ve never been able to figure them out.
It’s my understanding that the average woman’s dress size is 12 and the average store mannequin’s dress size is 6. Runway models are in the 0-1 dress size.
That’s a mighty big leap from reality.
Women’s dress sizes don’t mean much to anyone, except for comparing different sizes of the identical garment. I wear some clothes in Medium (6-8) and some in Large (10-12) and some in Extra Large (14-16), on the same body at different times.
You have to try everything on, or take measurements and use the sizing chart, if it’s a catalog order. And this doesn’t address the problem that clothes in larger sizes are made longer, so if you buy something to fit (for example) your hip or chest size, it’s likely to drag on the ground unless you’re also 6 feet tall.
Excuse me but size 12 is not plus size. For real woman plus size starts after size 18. Cracks me up they think she is a large woman. Get real
Yup. I prefer “before.”
WOW! I never thought a size 12 was a plus size! I actually thought that was an average size! And healthy too!
The article isn’t about “real women,” it has to do with the clothes hanger bodies favored by faggy fashion designers.
Real men, BTW, tend to be repulsed by the “beauty standards” pushed by the sissy-boys.
Plus size after? That just looks right. And, compared with the general population, it is thinner than normal.
It can be normal for a young woman to be extremely slender without being ill-nourished; my sister and I used to eat like truck drivers and we were still very slender. It can also be normal and healthy to be rounded. But the woman who is voluptuous at 30 may have a very difficult time controlling her weight as she gets older, particularly after a few kids; and her curves should be made from firm muscles with a smooth layer of subcutaneous fat over them, not just fat. Whatever one's weight, it's important to have some muscle mass.
It may be of interest to google pictures of Sophia Loren. She may have had well-sprung hips and a nice bust, but she was never heavy. There are photos of her partially nude that show a curvy young woman with very little extra fat.
Mrs. JimRed would kill to get into a size 12... but not die(t) for it! < /sarc >
Then it means there is someone for everybody. :-)
That's what happened when gay men were in charge of deciding what constituted a good looking woman (a woman that looks like a young boy).
Good line.
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