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This Kilogram Has A Weight-Loss Problem
NPR ^ | 20 Aug 2009 | Geoff Brumfiel

Posted on 08/20/2009 8:21:49 AM PDT by BGHater

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To: dirtboy
At what temperature?

The electron resonance frequency of the cesium atom does not vary with temperature.

21 posted on 08/20/2009 8:43:35 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: BGHater
Aw, f'Petessake! Why not just get it right this time and make it an even two pounds? And while yer at it, could we please make a kilogram 1024 grams and a kilometer 1024 meters? And what was wrong with the furlong, anyhows?

Dang iggorant Yoorpeens. Sheesh.

22 posted on 08/20/2009 8:44:14 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: dirtboy
Now define a second.

A second:

The second is the duration of 9 192 631 770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the cesium 133 atom.

23 posted on 08/20/2009 8:44:26 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: dirtboy

Temperature is to do with the movement of molecules.

At any temperature where Caesium is still Caesium, those hyperfine levels internal to Caesium won’t change.

Analogy: no matter how fast you drive your car, the distance between your pedals doesn’t change. Unless you crash the car :0)


24 posted on 08/20/2009 8:47:09 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: dirtboy
Now define a second.

Under the International System of Units, the second is currently defined as follows:

The second is the duration of 9,192,631,770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the caesium 133 atom.

That definition, btw, is actually used in real life for any number of precise timing applications, including your ATM and cell phone transactions.

25 posted on 08/20/2009 8:49:52 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: agere_contra
Analogy: no matter how fast you drive your car, the distance between your pedals doesn’t change. Unless you crash the car

Or unless you skid sideways at an appreciable fraction of the speed of light ... in which case the pedals would get closer together, as measured by an observer.

26 posted on 08/20/2009 8:51:17 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
The second is the duration of 9,192,631,770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the caesium 133 atom.

They could re-define it as how long it takes the Obama Administration to spend $9,192,631,770.

27 posted on 08/20/2009 8:54:55 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

From wikipedia:

Under the International System of Units, the second is currently defined as

The second is the duration of 9,192,631,770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the caesium 133 atom.[1]


28 posted on 08/20/2009 8:56:03 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: BGHater
This didn't happen back in the old days when we defined weights and lengths based on barleycorns and kings' feet.
29 posted on 08/20/2009 8:56:32 AM PDT by KarlInOhio ("I can run wild for six months ...after that, I have no expectation of success" - Admiral Obama-moto)
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To: dirtboy; DuncanWaring

Is that the unladen air-speed of an African or a European swallow?


30 posted on 08/20/2009 8:56:37 AM PDT by BlueLancer (I'm getting a fine tootsy-frootsying right here...)
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To: dirtboy
"Originally the meter was equal to the length of a piece of metal kept alongside the kilogram, but in 1983 it was redefined as the distance light travels in a vacuum over 299,792,458ths of a second."

Now define a second.

A second is the amount of time it takes light to travel 299,792,458 meters.

Q.E.D.

31 posted on 08/20/2009 8:59:37 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("If they taxed condoms and toilet paper, they'd have us coming and going." - Lazamataz, 2002)
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To: BGHater

The Kilogram: A unit of measure designed by committee.


32 posted on 08/20/2009 8:59:46 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Lazamataz

Define a meter.


33 posted on 08/20/2009 9:00:35 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Lazamataz

In a vacuum.


34 posted on 08/20/2009 9:02:06 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring
In a vacuum.

Define a vacuum.


35 posted on 08/20/2009 9:04:24 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("If they taxed condoms and toilet paper, they'd have us coming and going." - Lazamataz, 2002)
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To: BlueLancer
Is that the unladen air-speed of an African or a European swallow?

I don't kn- AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

36 posted on 08/20/2009 9:04:51 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: CodeToad
A second is the amount of time it takes light to travel 299,792,458 meters in a vacuum, and a meter is the distance it takes light to travel in a vacuum for one 299,792,458th of a second.

I mean, it's all very plain and easy to understand, for goodness sake!

37 posted on 08/20/2009 9:06:58 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("If they taxed condoms and toilet paper, they'd have us coming and going." - Lazamataz, 2002)
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To: CodeToad

Of course, we do need to define 299,792,458.


38 posted on 08/20/2009 9:07:31 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("If they taxed condoms and toilet paper, they'd have us coming and going." - Lazamataz, 2002)
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To: r9etb
So while you are counting to 9,192,631,770 cesium hyperfines , you have to divide by 299,792,458.

So at the end of the day, a meter is how far light travels in a vacuum while a cesium 130 atom shakes its booty 30.6633189884984 times.

Sounds messy.

39 posted on 08/20/2009 9:10:13 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: CodeToad; Lazamataz
"Define a meter."

Isn't that when you first approach a woman?

40 posted on 08/20/2009 9:12:02 AM PDT by BlueLancer (I'm getting a fine tootsy-frootsying right here...)
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