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1 posted on 08/11/2009 4:36:51 PM PDT by HogsBreath
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Sure, it’s easy to teach children to make emotion-based decisions.

Teaching them to reason, and installing the virtues of ruggedness and self-reliance is much harder.


2 posted on 08/11/2009 4:41:39 PM PDT by jtal
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My Dad, life long Democrat UAW, 82, looked at me about 15 years ago and said - “I just don’t know where I went wrong”


3 posted on 08/11/2009 4:41:46 PM PDT by Eddie01 (PSA: If you're over 50 and do cocaine, your heart is going to stop)
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I believe the whole issue boils down to what's easiest.

Conservatism requires work and results. Liberalism requires feelings and the hope for results. The latter is much easier to convey to, play on the emotions of, and require of young people.

I refuse to play the "easy" game with my children!

4 posted on 08/11/2009 4:42:18 PM PDT by DesertSapper (God, Family, Country . . . . . . . . . . and dead terrorists!!!)
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Why don't we see liberal's children revolt against their parents and become conservatives?

I dunno. Ask David Horowitz.

5 posted on 08/11/2009 4:42:27 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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Why don't we see liberal's children revolt against their parents and become conservatives?

I dunno. Ask David Horowitz.

6 posted on 08/11/2009 4:42:33 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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Conservatism takes Brains , Guts and the ability to not only call a spade a spade but to make the distinction with your own intellect and not be swayed by outsiders opinions , liberalism is gutless and easy , children brought up in liberalism don’t have the tools and are (for lack of a better term) brainwashed into the doctrine.


7 posted on 08/11/2009 4:43:30 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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I listened to daily union lectures from both of my parents. My Brother is a shop steward and both of them can’t figure out how I wound up conservative.


8 posted on 08/11/2009 4:44:17 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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My parents are big union liberals. 3 out of their 4 kids grew up to be conservatives.


9 posted on 08/11/2009 4:46:23 PM PDT by idkfa
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Of course! It's a stupid question. They have the entire education establishment, and the media working on them when we can't be there!
10 posted on 08/11/2009 4:46:50 PM PDT by j_tull (I may make you feel, but I can't make you think.)
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My Mother is a leftist hippie. Yes while I was under her roof I was left of center. But when I left the house and seen the “real” world I quickly moved right, way right.

I would hope that more of these kids would become more independent in their thinking. But the kids of leftist tend to be more dependent on Mommas breast.


11 posted on 08/11/2009 4:47:16 PM PDT by pennyfarmer (Your Socialist Beat our Liberal)
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Is Hussein a Red Diaper Baby?


12 posted on 08/11/2009 4:50:17 PM PDT by BenLurkin (What is so offensive about liberty that it must be "reformed" out of existence?)
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Influences are parental, educational, peers, media, etc. The Left’s views are reinforced by the media, academia, and most other cultural bodies. The Right had the religious groups - today most are offering some form of social justice flavor and playing down other aspects. Now it is just parents fighting against everything else pushing in the opposite direction.

The biggest pushers are the media and academia - the two areas voluntarily abandoned by the Right in decades past. Now all cultural bodies meet at a leftist confluence.

My advice is to introduce diseased concepts (i.e. Marxism, fascism, hedonism) on your own terms, but without transparent bias. Cover - at home - the history, classical literature, ethics, philosophy, and other topics the schools either refuse to cover or otherwise teach as to further a leftist agenda. If you opt for public school enrollment, you *will* need to educate to compensate for both the engineered and incidental failings of the public system - not to brainwash.


13 posted on 08/11/2009 4:52:23 PM PDT by M203M4 (NEW New Deal: A pot through every window!)
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I’ve always wondered how Pres Reagan and Nancy produced two such liberal kids. Only Michael turned out conservative


14 posted on 08/11/2009 4:54:03 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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Why don't we see liberal's children revolt against their parents and become conservatives?

You do, but a lot of it has to do with the times.

The Democrats were the majority party in the 1930s and 1940s. A lot of the children and grandchildren of those Democrats turned right in the 1970s and 1980s. So for that matter did a lot of those older Democrats.

In the 1980s and 1990s the Republicans were pretty close to a majority party, so there were more children of Republicans to defect than children of Democrats. There still are. Or at least the countercurrent back to the Republicans hasn't caught on yet.

15 posted on 08/11/2009 5:04:45 PM PDT by x
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Easy answer. It’s not parents raising the kids, it’s the liberal education system. Conservatives have their beliefs contradicted, liberals have theirs reinforced.


16 posted on 08/11/2009 5:05:48 PM PDT by JenB
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no surprise... mental illness is hereditary isn't it???
17 posted on 08/11/2009 5:16:31 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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For those of you that have never heard of this man, John Rosemond, he has been trying to fix the mess that was started in the 1960’s:

Picture respectful, responsible, obedient children who entertain themselves without television or video games, do their own homework, and have impeccable manners. A pie-in-the-sky fantasy? Not so, says family psychologist and bestselling author John Rosemond. Any parent who so desires can grow children who fit that description—happy, emotionally-healthy children who honor their parents and their families with good behavior and do their best in school.

In the 1960s, American parents stopped listening to their elders when it came to child rearing and began listening instead to professional experts. Since then, raising children has become fraught with anxiety, stress, and frustration. The solution, says John, lies in raising children according to biblical principles, the same principles that guided parents successfully for hundreds of years. They worked then, and they still work now!

Through his nationally-syndicated newspaper column and eleven books, John has been helping families raise happy, well-behaved children for more than thirty years. In Parenting by The Book, which John describes as both a “mission and a ministry,” he brings parents back to the uncomplicated basics. Herein find practical, Bible-based advice that will help you be the parent you want to be, with children who will be, as the Bible promises, “a delight to your soul” (Pro. 29-17). As a bonus, John also promises to make you laugh along the way.

http://www.parentingbythebook.com/


18 posted on 08/11/2009 5:19:46 PM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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To: HogsBreath

I indocrinated my kids to be conservatives since they were children.


19 posted on 08/11/2009 5:24:06 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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Of course they are. It’s EASY to be a liberal, you don’t need to think or make hard decisions.

If you don’t show your children the correct way to behave, odds are they won’t learn it on their own!


20 posted on 08/11/2009 5:33:12 PM PDT by FrogMom (No such thing as an honest democrat!)
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Of course they are better at raising like-minded kids. They squelch all discussion with emotion. Liberals can’t even let their friends put forth a conservative opinion, much less their children. I can’t have dinner with liberal friends without them trying to tell me how wrong I am about supporting conservative values. My liberal friends are also constantly spouting their leftist political views on social networking sites. I get very tired of it.

I was always taught there were three things you shouldn’t discuss in social situations: politics, religion and money.

Actually, I believe politics IS the liberals’ religion.


22 posted on 08/11/2009 6:14:09 PM PDT by Melian ("An unexamined life is not worth living." ~Socrates)
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Liberal parents have the advantage of liberal schools.

Conservative parents, on the other hand, have to clean up after liberal schools’ attempts to brainwash their children.


23 posted on 08/11/2009 6:20:05 PM PDT by Julia H. (Remember when dissent was patriotic?)
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I don’t agree with this. More often than not, the children grow up to ebrace differnt political views than their parents. It’s how the smelly hippies overran their parents of the greatest generation. It’s how gen x grew up as Reaganites, much to the chagrin of their smelly hippy parents. And now gen y has deeply embraced the obamanation, much to gen x’s deep disgust.

I like to label gen y as “smelly hippy, version 2.0”.

Another somewhat related theory I have is about liberal women who abort their children: They do so subconsciosly knowing that they’re offing a future conservative.


25 posted on 08/11/2009 8:15:27 PM PDT by Vision Thing (He has a white house, and he wants to paint it black.)
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My grandfather was a (pro-2nd Amendment!) socialist, he produced one pinko lib, one moderate lib, and my mom, who is conservative on all issues except for abortion and gay rights. My dad is a moderate Republican. I am who I am politically because of independent study and life experiences in the liberal bellies of the beasts.


26 posted on 08/18/2009 9:45:16 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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