Posted on 07/28/2009 9:23:04 AM PDT by DoctorJimbo27
I wasn't sure if i wanted to post this, but here goes. I've been holding onto this for a bit now, cause if it's real I don't know if I could get in trouble.
I voted for McCain last year (by default, I wanted huckabee) because I knew Nobama would be a disaster, but i wasn't sold on the citizenship thing. on a whim, I asked a firend in the UK to see if she could find any old records from back when Kenya was a british colony. Well a few days later she emailed me this.
it looks real to me, but I'm not sure. And I havent been able to get a hold of my friend since she sent it to me. If this is legitimate, should i be worried?
Here's the link, I don't have a website to upload it to. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=281blzk&s=3
Gosh, BB, it must have taken you YEARS to save all that information! However did you DO it?? /s (I filched it for later use, incidentally...)
IBTZ, please, please, please!?!!?!?!?!
Can’t read the background text, but it appears to be something in Dutch or German.
The Kitties have another one.
I think he was talking about the watermark text, the part that says “if you can read this, you’ve been scammed, ha ha. Love Rahm”
Dutch - and as everyone knows the British Crown, ever since the glorious revolution of 1688, has required that all legal documents in the United Kingdom, its colonies and provinces have to be written not only in english but also in dutch.
(OK - /sarc)
I filched it.
Black lined page borders made by computer, no computers in 1961
Well that part would be pretty easy to fidn out. It’s on Wikipedia. it’s the rest of it that has me all mixed up.
The text in the background is Dutch and says something like “this is a non-negotiable document”. It must be a check or a stock certificate. (Dutch is not the official language of England or Kenya).
You should most definitely take this to the API (African Press International) I am sure they will pay you big bucks for it!!!
LOL...go back to the DailyKOS...
Says you! (LOL)
Oh that Rahm. What a rascal!
What black-lined page borders?
Do you mean the boxes in which the handwritten information is?
How did they print crossword puzzles in 1961?
Wellllll -— it COULD be that the government agency bought forms, or the stock for the forms, from the low bidder, in this case a Dutch company. Not bloody likely, though. Just possible.
The doctor’s name looks like Sulu Kimshi.
The background appears to contain Afrikaans/Dutch language words.
I was under the impression he was not born with the name he goes by today. Wasn’t his name Barry?
Oh, what a tangled web they weaved....
No, but this is...
Only one is a signature. The other is the printed name.
I read the Doctor's name as Kim. Under attending physician it looks like DM after the Dr.'s name. It's hard to read the first name.
Of course it could be. You just have to take the time to properly research this sort of thing. Like the time I clicked through on one of those “truth about colon cleansing” advertisements. Man, did I ever learn a lot! Did you ever try that? I mean, the kind of stuff that works its way up there I guess while you’re asleep or something (man, I gotta wash the sheets more often) like tapeworms and the kind of stuff that you usually only see on late-night sci-fi movies bursting out of somebody’s stomach, which I sure wouldn’t want to happen to me because then I really would have to wash the sheets. But you can get rid of it, see? And you don’t have to pay some 400-lb nurse named Agnes to stick a 9-foot tube up yer butt, either. It’s all natural! I’d be happy to tell you all about it but Jim Thompson doesn’t like product advertisements in his threads, so if you’d just post your credit card number, expiration date, and that funny little security number on the back you could have this stuff in your mailbox by next Tuesday. If the package is leaking a little, it’s OK. Oh, if you put “CONFIDENTIAL” on your FR posting nobody else will be able to see it.
It's Dutch. I can make out the words,
"This is not a valid government document. It's political commentary."
Lol.
Hey NOOB—
Why you fishing for whale in a bass lake?
It may be that the background words are Afrikaans, not Dutch. Any experts out there to make this determination?
If it is Afrikaans, it might just be that Kenya was using a type of unalterable paper from another available African source - and a Commonwealth country.
Again, this is for a document authenticator. This feature might be a dead giveaway of a forgery, or - it might just be a detail that is authentic.
I DO NOT KNOW. Please don’t accuse me of anything, or of speculating.
All this thread is is speculation.
See 76!
See 76... lol...
Yep. That cans it. But it’s cute.
I would note that this document has a real good-looking true type font. Not that that would be a deal-breaker, because the form is typeset, not typed.
I would also question the use of the term “Native-Born” in this document. Quite a coinkydink that that exact term would appear on a Kenyan birth certificate and the US Constitution...
Thanks for the update. It definitely did not pass the “smell test” - especially when you further notice the proportionally-spaced font type that appeared no more valid on a 1961 document than CBS’s George Bush/ANG forgery was.
Thanks for the image post!
That writing is ballpoint and not a type that would have been around in Africa in 1961. That’s precision ball point. No older than twenty years or less. IMO!
Ping to yet Another birth certificate.
It all looked too convenient , like someone was trying to play a game and make something we expect we would find. Probably the KOS kiddos playing a game. What they don’t realize is that the Birthers are that way (I’m not one but that’s another story) because they are skeptics, not because they are suckers who buy into anything for hope’s sake.
This actually brings up a very serious question.
If and when Obama DOES produce a "long form birth certificate," how is anyone going to know that whatever he produces is not a forgery?
To the naked eye, this particular faked "document" looks pretty convincing.
Heh. Partners in crime...
lol, I guess the troll didn’t get the response he wanted. I bet he expected a bunch of suckers who would buy anything out of hope instead of a bunch of skeptics.
Oh, it was obviously a game. I think he partly wanted to see how long it would take us to bust the code.
Kinda fun, actually. :-)
Thanks. I don’t read Dutch - glad you do!
His entire administration will be removed and given to McCain.
Here's the potential key evidence, as far as I'm concerned.
Point 1: The COLB posted on Obama's web site may or may not be phony (I haven't decided on that point yet.)
Point 2: Obama's failure to come up with a real, long form birth certificate in a timely manner, and his expenditure of a vast amount of money in legal fees is, in my opinion, a 100% indication that something is rotten in Denmark. I don't know what that something is, but something is fishy.
Point 3: Government officials and the media have stalled, obfuscated, gone to court, ridiculed those who've asked for reasonable proof (even giving them their own insulting label: "birthers"), and changed their story.
If you're in a police investigation, the suspect declining to prove his innocence when it should be very easy to do so, and changing his or her story under further questioning, is a sure sign that something is not innocent.
So the key evidence for me, at this point, is the history of the thing to this point.
I guess that about sums it up.
If and when Obama DOES produce a "long form birth certificate," how is anyone going to know that whatever he produces is not a forgery?
To the naked eye, this particular faked "document" looks pretty convincing.
Pinging Marmolade.
Oh, I had help from Babelfish. :-)
Looks too real. ;-) Looks a lot more legit than the fake HI COLB.
After close examination of the document in question I must assume we are looking for a Muslim with only a left hand as the creator of this document.
It is of course a forgery, since Stanley Ann Dunham was known as “Anna Toot” by Obama’s Kenyan relatives, and that name should be on this fake birth certificate.
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