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Could this be Obama's Kenyan birthcertificate? (someone is smoking catnip)
Probably some kid's photoshop program ^ | KOS troll

Posted on 07/28/2009 9:23:04 AM PDT by DoctorJimbo27

I wasn't sure if i wanted to post this, but here goes. I've been holding onto this for a bit now, cause if it's real I don't know if I could get in trouble.

I voted for McCain last year (by default, I wanted huckabee) because I knew Nobama would be a disaster, but i wasn't sold on the citizenship thing. on a whim, I asked a firend in the UK to see if she could find any old records from back when Kenya was a british colony. Well a few days later she emailed me this.

it looks real to me, but I'm not sure. And I havent been able to get a hold of my friend since she sent it to me. If this is legitimate, should i be worried?

Here's the link, I don't have a website to upload it to. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=281blzk&s=3


TOPICS: Conspiracy; UFO's
KEYWORDS: api; barackobama; birthcertificate; douche; hoaxter; imom; napl; obroma; zot
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To: BulletBobCo

Gosh, BB, it must have taken you YEARS to save all that information! However did you DO it?? /s (I filched it for later use, incidentally...)


51 posted on 07/28/2009 9:40:47 AM PDT by redhead (You don't have to be eaten by a bear to know he WILL eat you...Check the Half-Baked Sourdough!)
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To: Thebaddog
I can read some of the text. The registration district is Mombasa in 1961. Birthdate is Aug 4, 1961. Baby name is Barak Hussein Obama, male. Father is Barack Hussein Sr, and mother is Stanley Ann Dunham. It looks like the time of birth is 1137 am.
52 posted on 07/28/2009 9:41:15 AM PDT by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: DoctorJimbo27

IBTZ, please, please, please!?!!?!?!?!


53 posted on 07/28/2009 9:42:28 AM PDT by ColoCdn (Neco eos omnes, Deus suos agnoset)
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To: Thebaddog

Can’t read the background text, but it appears to be something in Dutch or German.


54 posted on 07/28/2009 9:42:45 AM PDT by Genoa
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To: Atom Smasher

The Kitties have another one.


55 posted on 07/28/2009 9:42:56 AM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: Enterprise

I think he was talking about the watermark text, the part that says “if you can read this, you’ve been scammed, ha ha. Love Rahm”


56 posted on 07/28/2009 9:43:03 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Thebaddog

Dutch - and as everyone knows the British Crown, ever since the glorious revolution of 1688, has required that all legal documents in the United Kingdom, its colonies and provinces have to be written not only in english but also in dutch.

(OK - /sarc)


57 posted on 07/28/2009 9:43:08 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: redhead
Gosh, BB, it must have taken you YEARS to save all that information! However did you DO it?? /s (I filched it for later use, incidentally...)

I filched it.

58 posted on 07/28/2009 9:43:20 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: DuncanWaring

Black lined page borders made by computer, no computers in 1961


59 posted on 07/28/2009 9:44:19 AM PDT by Blu By U
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To: Enterprise

Well that part would be pretty easy to fidn out. It’s on Wikipedia. it’s the rest of it that has me all mixed up.


60 posted on 07/28/2009 9:44:35 AM PDT by DoctorJimbo27
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To: Thebaddog

The text in the background is Dutch and says something like “this is a non-negotiable document”. It must be a check or a stock certificate. (Dutch is not the official language of England or Kenya).


61 posted on 07/28/2009 9:44:39 AM PDT by balls ("Our government isn't ours any more" - stockpirate)
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To: DoctorJimbo27

You should most definitely take this to the API (African Press International) I am sure they will pay you big bucks for it!!!

LOL...go back to the DailyKOS...


62 posted on 07/28/2009 9:44:47 AM PDT by surfer
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To: balls
(Dutch is not the official language of England or Kenya).

Says you! (LOL)

63 posted on 07/28/2009 9:45:55 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: mnehring

Oh that Rahm. What a rascal!


64 posted on 07/28/2009 9:46:27 AM PDT by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: Blu By U

What black-lined page borders?

Do you mean the boxes in which the handwritten information is?

How did they print crossword puzzles in 1961?


65 posted on 07/28/2009 10:43:04 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: ScaniaBoy

Wellllll -— it COULD be that the government agency bought forms, or the stock for the forms, from the low bidder, in this case a Dutch company. Not bloody likely, though. Just possible.


66 posted on 07/28/2009 10:43:16 AM PDT by Genoa
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To: DoctorJimbo27

The doctor’s name looks like Sulu Kimshi.


67 posted on 07/28/2009 10:48:54 AM PDT by Genoa
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To: Thebaddog

The background appears to contain Afrikaans/Dutch language words.


68 posted on 07/28/2009 10:50:07 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I was under the impression he was not born with the name he goes by today. Wasn’t his name Barry?


69 posted on 07/28/2009 10:55:18 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Genoa
Sulu Kimchi? ;-)
70 posted on 07/28/2009 10:56:41 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama. Clear and Pres__ent Danger.)
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To: nhwingut
Would Obroma's supreme court appointees be removed, if it turns out he was never president?

Oh, what a tangled web they weaved....

71 posted on 07/28/2009 10:57:14 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: DoctorJimbo27
Could this be Obama's Kenyan birthcertificate?

No, but this is...


72 posted on 07/28/2009 10:57:31 AM PDT by South40 (Barack Hussein Obama - The First Sesame Street President)
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To: freekitty

Only one is a signature. The other is the printed name.


73 posted on 07/28/2009 11:05:12 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: freekitty; LucyT; BP2; Polarik
Why is the signature of the attending physician and signature of physician different?

I read the Doctor's name as Kim. Under attending physician it looks like DM after the Dr.'s name. It's hard to read the first name.

74 posted on 07/28/2009 11:07:31 AM PDT by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: DoctorJimbo27

Of course it could be. You just have to take the time to properly research this sort of thing. Like the time I clicked through on one of those “truth about colon cleansing” advertisements. Man, did I ever learn a lot! Did you ever try that? I mean, the kind of stuff that works its way up there I guess while you’re asleep or something (man, I gotta wash the sheets more often) like tapeworms and the kind of stuff that you usually only see on late-night sci-fi movies bursting out of somebody’s stomach, which I sure wouldn’t want to happen to me because then I really would have to wash the sheets. But you can get rid of it, see? And you don’t have to pay some 400-lb nurse named Agnes to stick a 9-foot tube up yer butt, either. It’s all natural! I’d be happy to tell you all about it but Jim Thompson doesn’t like product advertisements in his threads, so if you’d just post your credit card number, expiration date, and that funny little security number on the back you could have this stuff in your mailbox by next Tuesday. If the package is leaking a little, it’s OK. Oh, if you put “CONFIDENTIAL” on your FR posting nobody else will be able to see it.


75 posted on 07/28/2009 11:09:31 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Genoa
Can’t read the background text, but it appears to be something in Dutch or German.

It's Dutch. I can make out the words,

"This is not a valid government document. It's political commentary."

Lol.

76 posted on 07/28/2009 11:16:14 AM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: DoctorJimbo27

Hey NOOB—

Why you fishing for whale in a bass lake?


77 posted on 07/28/2009 11:16:53 AM PDT by OL Hickory (I AM JIM THOMPSON!!)
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To: balls

It may be that the background words are Afrikaans, not Dutch. Any experts out there to make this determination?

If it is Afrikaans, it might just be that Kenya was using a type of unalterable paper from another available African source - and a Commonwealth country.

Again, this is for a document authenticator. This feature might be a dead giveaway of a forgery, or - it might just be a detail that is authentic.

I DO NOT KNOW. Please don’t accuse me of anything, or of speculating.

All this thread is is speculation.


78 posted on 07/28/2009 11:17:45 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: andy58-in-nh; balls

See 76!


79 posted on 07/28/2009 11:19:00 AM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: John Valentine

See 76... lol...


80 posted on 07/28/2009 11:19:33 AM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: john in springfield

Yep. That cans it. But it’s cute.


81 posted on 07/28/2009 11:20:10 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: mnehring

I would note that this document has a real good-looking true type font. Not that that would be a deal-breaker, because the form is typeset, not typed.

I would also question the use of the term “Native-Born” in this document. Quite a coinkydink that that exact term would appear on a Kenyan birth certificate and the US Constitution...


82 posted on 07/28/2009 11:21:23 AM PDT by bondjamesbond (Don't blame me... I voted for PALIN!)
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To: john in springfield

Thanks for the update. It definitely did not pass the “smell test” - especially when you further notice the proportionally-spaced font type that appeared no more valid on a 1961 document than CBS’s George Bush/ANG forgery was.


83 posted on 07/28/2009 11:22:21 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.)
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To: mnehring

Thanks for the image post!

That writing is ballpoint and not a type that would have been around in Africa in 1961. That’s precision ball point. No older than twenty years or less. IMO!


84 posted on 07/28/2009 11:24:41 AM PDT by bvw
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To: mnehring; Beckwith; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; BP2; ...

Ping to yet Another birth certificate.


85 posted on 07/28/2009 11:28:53 AM PDT by LucyT (YOYO = You're on your own.)
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To: John Valentine; andy58-in-nh; balls; bondjamesbond; freekitty; LucyT; BP2; Polarik; jellybean; ...
Busted!

The full background text, which is in Dutch, reads:

DIT IS GEEN GELDIG DOCUMENT VAN DE OVERHEID. DIT IS POLITIEKE COMMENTAAR. HIJ IS VOORZITTER VOOR MINSTENS DRIE EN EEN HALF VAN MEER JAREN. KEUR HET GOED. DIT ZAL NIET VERANDEREN.

Rough translation:

"This is not a valid government document. This is political commentary. He is President for at least three and a half more years. Get used to it, it's not going to change."

86 posted on 07/28/2009 11:30:34 AM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: bondjamesbond

It all looked too convenient , like someone was trying to play a game and make something we expect we would find. Probably the KOS kiddos playing a game. What they don’t realize is that the Birthers are that way (I’m not one but that’s another story) because they are skeptics, not because they are suckers who buy into anything for hope’s sake.


87 posted on 07/28/2009 11:34:27 AM PDT by mnehring
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Ping to 86.

This actually brings up a very serious question.

If and when Obama DOES produce a "long form birth certificate," how is anyone going to know that whatever he produces is not a forgery?

To the naked eye, this particular faked "document" looks pretty convincing.

88 posted on 07/28/2009 11:34:27 AM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: BulletBobCo
"I filched it."

Heh. Partners in crime...

89 posted on 07/28/2009 11:35:16 AM PDT by redhead (You don't have to be eaten by a bear to know he WILL eat you...Check the Half-Baked Sourdough!)
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To: john in springfield

lol, I guess the troll didn’t get the response he wanted. I bet he expected a bunch of suckers who would buy anything out of hope instead of a bunch of skeptics.


90 posted on 07/28/2009 11:36:17 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

Oh, it was obviously a game. I think he partly wanted to see how long it would take us to bust the code.

Kinda fun, actually. :-)


91 posted on 07/28/2009 11:38:22 AM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: john in springfield

Thanks. I don’t read Dutch - glad you do!


92 posted on 07/28/2009 11:40:15 AM PDT by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: john in springfield
I always liked the Dutch. They are sticklers for detail but often possess a winning sense of humor...


93 posted on 07/28/2009 11:40:55 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

His entire administration will be removed and given to McCain.


94 posted on 07/28/2009 11:44:14 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: DoctorJimbo27; darkwing104; GOP_Raider; 230FMJ; 50mm; A.Hun; abigailsmybaby; AFPhys; Aircop_2006; ..
We have a bogey at post 1.


95 posted on 07/28/2009 11:46:53 AM PDT by 50mm (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: john in springfield
Just thinking out loud here.

Here's the potential key evidence, as far as I'm concerned.

Point 1: The COLB posted on Obama's web site may or may not be phony (I haven't decided on that point yet.)

Point 2: Obama's failure to come up with a real, long form birth certificate in a timely manner, and his expenditure of a vast amount of money in legal fees is, in my opinion, a 100% indication that something is rotten in Denmark. I don't know what that something is, but something is fishy.

Point 3: Government officials and the media have stalled, obfuscated, gone to court, ridiculed those who've asked for reasonable proof (even giving them their own insulting label: "birthers"), and changed their story.

If you're in a police investigation, the suspect declining to prove his innocence when it should be very easy to do so, and changing his or her story under further questioning, is a sure sign that something is not innocent.

So the key evidence for me, at this point, is the history of the thing to this point.

I guess that about sums it up.

96 posted on 07/28/2009 11:46:56 AM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: john in springfield; Marmolade
This actually brings up a very serious question.

If and when Obama DOES produce a "long form birth certificate," how is anyone going to know that whatever he produces is not a forgery?

To the naked eye, this particular faked "document" looks pretty convincing.

Pinging Marmolade.

97 posted on 07/28/2009 11:47:51 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: jellybean

Oh, I had help from Babelfish. :-)


98 posted on 07/28/2009 11:48:09 AM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: Enterprise

Looks too real. ;-) Looks a lot more legit than the fake HI COLB.


99 posted on 07/28/2009 11:49:17 AM PDT by Frantzie (Obama DeathCare - Sending Seniors to the Death Camps. Obama = Racist Dope)
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To: DoctorJimbo27

After close examination of the document in question I must assume we are looking for a Muslim with only a left hand as the creator of this document.

It is of course a forgery, since Stanley Ann Dunham was known as “Anna Toot” by Obama’s Kenyan relatives, and that name should be on this fake birth certificate.


100 posted on 07/28/2009 11:49:50 AM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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