Posted on 07/26/2009 5:07:16 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
Excerpt- Under Indonesian law, Obama could not hold dual citizenship. But U.S. law would still recognize Obama as an American citizen. This led to theory that Obama traveled to Pakistan in college under an Indonesia passport. In the early 1980’s, it was very difficult to enter Pakistan under a U.S. passport.
E-Mail CNN and ask them to cover the Barack Obama “must release his records” issue which will inform us if he is a natural born citizen or not. Please thank Lou Dobbs for covering the story:
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Too many unanswered questions...
Right you are!
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“Too many unanswered questions...”
It’s the cover up that’s the story.
Just a humble opinion....but when Stanley ended up marrying the Indonesian dude...it’s very likely that she ended up terminating his citizenship (in effect, giving it up)...to make this Indonesian citizenship episode work. If you can imagine the workings of a 3rd world country and their bureaucratic nature...I can easily see some naive American girl easily agreeing and doing legal paperwork to trigger such a stupid decision.
All this chatter over being born in a foreign country is bogus...and people are wasting their time.
The minute you get to his legendary story over traveling to Pakistan...at that point in time...the visa and passport business should have clicked in your mind. He had no issue...he had the Indonesian passport. At that point, you should ask more questions....but instead, we end up wasting time talking over Hawaii and how he got born in Kenya.
The last remaining topic of interest here...is that you can’t find a single friend or associate from this college period who talks over the guy and his travels, etc. He is a virtual unknown. When you look at Stanley and her period in Hawaii...at the university, and then this period in Indonesia....she is a virtual unknown. They both blend in and quietly just sit there.
There is a story here....but it’s barely noticed for a reason.
I've not followed the details of this issue closely; I'm one of the "he's clearly hiding something, so what is it" crowd. So here's my naive question:
I had the notion that children with dual nationalities needed to make an election when they reached maturity. Assuming he was born in Hawaii, BO would have been U.S.-Kenyan. If he later became an Indonesian national, he would have been U.S.-Indonesian. Did he need to make a citizenship election at age 18 or 21? Did he?
Although I am interested in the Birth certificate thing, I wish it would go away until someone found the smoking gun. Who knows, this whole thing might just be a ploy to make conservatives look bad.
Correct! To school in Indonesia, a student must be an Indonesian citizen. Indonesia does not permit dual citizenship.
You wrote-
“Just a humble opinion....but when Stanley ended up marrying the Indonesian dude...it’s very likely that she ended up terminating his citizenship (in effect, giving it up)...to make this Indonesian citizenship episode work. If you can imagine the workings of a 3rd world country and their bureaucratic nature...I can easily see some naive American girl easily agreeing and doing legal paperwork to trigger such a stupid decision.
All this chatter over being born in a foreign country is bogus...and people are wasting their time.
The minute you get to his legendary story over traveling to Pakistan...at that point in time...the visa and passport business should have clicked in your mind. He had no issue...he had the Indonesian passport. At that point, you should ask more questions....but instead, we end up wasting time talking over Hawaii and how he got born in Kenya.
The last remaining topic of interest here...is that you can’t find a single friend or associate from this college period who talks over the guy and his travels, etc. He is a virtual unknown. When you look at Stanley and her period in Hawaii...at the university, and then this period in Indonesia....she is a virtual unknown. They both blend in and quietly just sit there.
There is a story here....but it’s barely noticed for a reason.”
I don’t believe that there is any record of him doing so. He probably lost U.S. citizenship when he was adopted and schooled in Indonesia.
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“Did he need to make a citizenship election at age 18 or 21? Did he?”
Correct, but they have to live in this country with us. We will keep the heat on and eventually the Constitution will be enforced and Obama removed from office.
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“Laws do not apply to Democrats, and they are ‘erased’ nunc pro tunc.”
I went to the link to read this article and I find it poorly written and poorly formatted (misspellings, links and captions are wrong, etc.).
Perhaps the facts are true, but when the article is is not put together well, it lacks credibility.
When someone is running for the presidency of the US, full disclosure should be mandatory. There is, in my view, no such thing as ‘petty and insignificant’. The press knew Bush's academic record, his DUI arrest, his alcoholism history, his service record, etc. etc. We know almost nothing about Obama except that he has a troubling history of hanging around people with anti-American views. If he were a Republican these would not be ‘conspiracy theories’. They would be big news stories reported on and investigated by the MSM.
I am also not sure that a Kenyan birth is credible, however there is some reason why the address presented on the birth announcement was never inhabited by the Obamas. (Barrack Sr., Stanley, Barrack Jr.) There is also no evidence that they ever lived together as family. There is some reason that there is no record of his birth at either of the Honolulu. There is some reason that he has no visible history. NONE.
“Who knows, this whole thing might just be a ploy to make conservatives look bad.”
Instead of focusing solely on the COLB, the totality of this guy’s life up to age 28 being sealed, erased, forgotten etc is highly suspicious. Having had an Indonesian passport isn’t going to have him removed from office, but the fact it was hidden would just lead to more fact finding, investigation, etc.
The coverup is usually where the law is broken.
Right you are! If Hussein were a Republican, 1/2 of the news libs would be in Mombasa, Kenya searching for his birth certificate.
You wrote-
“When someone is running for the presidency of the US, full disclosure should be mandatory. There is, in my view, no such thing as ‘petty and insignificant’. The press knew Bush’s academic record, his DUI arrest, his alcoholism history, his service record, etc. etc. We know almost nothing about Obama except that he has a troubling history of hanging around people with anti-American views. If he were a Republican these would not be ‘conspiracy theories’. They would be big news stories reported on and investigated by the MSM.”
Despite being called a nut, crazy or a tin foil hat wearer, I have been a birther from the beginning. I was told to move on and attack him on the issues. Obviously that didnt get us very far. It’s not only the fact that we have not seen the records, but the effort that has been taken to prevent them from becoming public. IMHO, there is a smoking gun, or should I say smoking cannon hiden somewhere in these missing records.
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