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Fuel tax could be replaced with by-the-mile road tax
Kansas City Star ^ | July 1, 2009 | Steve Everly

Posted on 07/01/2009 6:44:13 AM PDT by lacrew

The year is 2020 and the gasoline tax is history. In its place you get a monthly tax bill based on each mile you drove — tracked by a Global Positioning System device in your car and uploaded to a billing center.

What once was science fiction is being field-tested by the University of Iowa to iron out the wrinkles should a by-the-mile road tax ever be enacted.

Besides the technological advances making such a tax possible, the idea is getting a hard push from a growing number of transportation experts and officials. That is because the traditional by-the-gallon fuel tax, struggling to keep up with road building and maintenance demands, could fall even farther behind as vehicles' gas mileage rises and more alternative-fuel vehicles come on line.

The idea of shifting to a by-the-mile tax has been discussed for years, but it now appears to be getting more serious attention. A federal commission, after a two-year study, concluded earlier this year that the road tax was the "best path forward" to keep revenues flowing to highway and transportation projects, and could be an important new tool to help manage traffic and relieve congestion.

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I was waiting for this to happen. When fuel economy improves, gas taxes go down. This big brother system they propose would be a user tax...which I would be ok with, IF: the taxes only went to roads, and it wasn't waived for low income drivers.

I design roads for a living. You would be suprised at where highway tax money goes. My favorite is the restored railroad depot/museum in Topeka...paid for with TEA money.

1 posted on 07/01/2009 6:44:13 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: lacrew

Let’s really stick it to the rural folks. As if cap and trade isn’t going to devastate their wallets enough.

Oh well, most of them are in red states. /s


2 posted on 07/01/2009 6:47:21 AM PDT by KansasGirl (I still think Obama is just plain creepy.)
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To: lacrew

I thought the tax and spend Libs HATED SUVs and other low fuel mileage vehicles. Now they want to do away with the only real penalty they’ve ever had for owners of those vehicles.


3 posted on 07/01/2009 6:49:16 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: lacrew

But think about all the plug-in EV advocates. They will go from zero gasoline taxes plus high electricity prices to high per-mile taxes and high electricity prices.
Sweet!


4 posted on 07/01/2009 6:50:09 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: KansasGirl
Let’s really stick it to the rural folks. As if cap and trade isn’t going to devastate their wallets enough.

Liberals hate rural folks - most of them are conservative. Yep, they'll stick it to you.

5 posted on 07/01/2009 6:50:27 AM PDT by GOPJ (Duke University official offers to SELL a black five year old for rape parties & the MSM looks away?)
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To: lacrew

insurance co’s already are pushing for this.

they can charge you by the mile also.


6 posted on 07/01/2009 6:50:54 AM PDT by ken21 (i am not voting for a rino-progressive.)
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To: WayneS

It is rather nice that their greed is prompting them to reverse the incentives on fuel efficiency, isn’t it? When a Prius is taxed as heavily as an SUV for the same trip, there’s less reason to go with the less safe lightweight.


7 posted on 07/01/2009 6:50:58 AM PDT by TurtleUp (So this is how liberty dies - to thunderous applause!)
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To: WayneS

“I thought the tax and spend Libs HATED SUVs and other low fuel mileage vehicles. Now they want to do away with the only real penalty they’ve ever had for owners of those vehicles.”

Well, I don’t believe the gas tax will go away...we’ll just have both: a gas tax at the pump, and a mileage ‘fee’ in the mail.


8 posted on 07/01/2009 6:52:08 AM PDT by lacrew (The 274th trimester is a very late procedure)
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To: lacrew
What once was science fiction is being field-tested by the University of Iowa to iron out the wrinkles

And every hustler and garage/electronic tinkerer is "ironing out the wrinkles" to fool said device . . .

. . . which opens up another splendid avenue of "GPS checkpoints" to make sure you have no bypass device. And then we have the "Where is he now?" surveillance systems or mandatory record of your travels by the device "for police investigation of a crime". The options boggle the bureaucrats' mind - the sky (so to speak) is the limit.

9 posted on 07/01/2009 6:53:56 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: KansasGirl

Don’t worry, once the Cap ‘N’ Trade bill goes through, the standards for “location efficiency” that Boehner mentioned last Friday will assure that there are no “rural folks” left.


10 posted on 07/01/2009 6:54:55 AM PDT by Roccus (The Capitol, the White House, the Court House...........America's Axis of Evil)
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To: ken21

“insurance co’s already are pushing for this.

they can charge you by the mile also.”

Progressive already has a voluntary program like this...but more than just mileage. The system also monitors acceleration, speed, hard braking, etc. to adjust your rate.

I could see an ‘excessive acceleration’ tax (it causes global warming), etc.


11 posted on 07/01/2009 6:55:08 AM PDT by lacrew (The 274th trimester is a very late procedure)
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To: lacrew

Oh!

Well that’s MUCH better, then...

;^)


12 posted on 07/01/2009 6:56:14 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: KansasGirl

Rural people need to move into Walled Urban Worker Zones.

You know, for the children,...er..erviroment...ah, er...economic development and.., um, security, their own good. Those kind of reasons. Besides, we( the governments ) are burning down your farms, towns and making single, multi county size industrial farms owned by Goldman Sac and others that, honestly now dear Rural rubes, will be way, way more efficient.

/sarc


13 posted on 07/01/2009 6:56:15 AM PDT by Leisler ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged."~G.K. Chesterton)
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To: lacrew

yeah.

you can see it from their point of view—it tightens up their statistics.

so, this one will be a democrat and republican vote in the u.s. congress.

statists all.


14 posted on 07/01/2009 6:58:07 AM PDT by ken21 (i am not voting for a rino-progressive.)
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To: lacrew

Tinfoil will effectively block the device; just cover it each time you travel outside your little local area and you’ll be fine!


15 posted on 07/01/2009 6:59:41 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: lacrew

The new tax will be in addition to the present tax on fuel.


16 posted on 07/01/2009 7:01:03 AM PDT by badgerlandjim (Hillary Clinton is to politics as Helen Thomas is to beauty.)
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To: lacrew

What happens when people learn to ‘spoof’ the system by tinkering with the ID of their car? Seems to me that if there are people out there who can crack DirecTV, then some enterprising individual is going to pirate this.


17 posted on 07/01/2009 7:03:52 AM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: lacrew
We already have a “by the mile tax”. The more you drive the more gas you need and the more tax you pay. This is NOT a way to tax drivers based on distance driven!!!! THIS IS AN INTRUSION, THIS IS BIG BROTHER!!!!!If they do this I'll never buy another car. I'll drive my jeep till I'm sitting on the darn chasis and four wheels going 10MPH. DAMN THEM!!!
18 posted on 07/01/2009 7:03:55 AM PDT by lula ( If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress?)
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To: lacrew

So much for privacy as Big Brother will know where you are and where you go. Can thought police be far away?


19 posted on 07/01/2009 7:04:05 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: lacrew

Yaaa....so none of us have ANY right to anonymity or privacy where and when we travel? Sounds like a Washington DC clown’s idea of nirvana...


20 posted on 07/01/2009 7:06:49 AM PDT by mo
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To: lacrew

“University of Iowa” figures.


21 posted on 07/01/2009 7:07:58 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: Tallguy

I wish I had never sold my old ‘85 Corolla. GREAT car for everything but the babe factor. Everything was easy to work on, even the odometer.


22 posted on 07/01/2009 7:11:16 AM PDT by Loud Mime (It all makes sense when you understand that Obama is a stealth Muslim.)
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To: mo
Yaaa....so none of us have ANY right to anonymity or privacy where and when we travel? Sounds like a Washington DC clown’s idea of nirvana...

Going to make it tough on the Washington politicos to maintain their secret trysts when some bureaucrat decides to drop a dime on them & report their movements.

23 posted on 07/01/2009 7:15:57 AM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: lacrew

since other reports indicate that the Obama administration is allowing the GPS satellite system to go to hell in a handbasket, this ought to be fun to watch! (me, I’m just hoarding my tinfoil....)


24 posted on 07/01/2009 7:34:19 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: lacrew

What socialist Zer0 and his handlers wish to do is to get you into the cities. He understands cities are places where you are forced to take public transportation, unions rule, and, most importantly, people can be controlled.

This is part of his strategy.


25 posted on 07/01/2009 7:39:46 AM PDT by bestintxas
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To: lacrew

Also see the connected thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2283208/posts


26 posted on 07/01/2009 7:42:17 AM PDT by bestintxas
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To: JimRed

“Tinfoil will effectively block the device; just cover it each time you travel outside your little local area and you’ll be fine!”

You’ll probably get pulled over for not emmitting a proper signal, and sentenced to a green gulag.


27 posted on 07/01/2009 8:10:46 AM PDT by lacrew (The 274th trimester is a very late procedure)
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To: lacrew

So have fun driving that roller skate you bought in order to save gas. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


28 posted on 07/01/2009 8:32:49 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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