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Lion trapped, relocated from north Boulder neighborhood
Camera ^ | June 16, 2009 | Jean Spencer

Posted on 06/17/2009 6:25:54 AM PDT by george76

A young mountain lion was trapped and relocated by the Colorado Division of Wildlife after eating a house cat Monday ... north Boulder.

“He was just too close,” Churchill said. “We wanted to give him a spanking and move him out of town.”

Wildlife officials previously tagged the same cougar in February when the kitten was stuck in a tree, Churchill said.

He is part of the five-year Front Range Mountain Lion Study, which aims to track mountain lions between Lyons and Evergreen to better understand cougar movement trends and develop a way to mitigate aggressive behavior near human establishments, Churchill said. In 2007 and 2008, 18 cougars were captured and are now being tracked.

Still, there's no guarantee the lion won’t return, Churchill said.

“Some just like to keep coming back,” she said.

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TOPICS: Outdoors; Pets/Animals; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: animalrights; ar; bigkitties; boulder; catchandrelease; colorado; cougar; cougars; g79; kitties; kittyfood; kittyping; lion; lions; mountainlion; mountainlions; peta
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Catch and release is also known as job security for Jeniffer Churchill and her pals.

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1 posted on 06/17/2009 6:25:54 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76
Come on Freepers! Where are you this morning? 4 minutes up and no comments about this line yet?

Churchill said. “We wanted to give him a spanking and move him out of town.”

A story about cougars with a line about spanking and no comments yet. *sigh*

2 posted on 06/17/2009 6:29:45 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: george76

Thank God they didn’t kill it for once!


3 posted on 06/17/2009 6:33:16 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: george76
He is part of the five-year Front Range Mountain Lion Study, which aims to track mountain lions between Lyons and Evergreen to better understand cougar movement trends and develop a way to mitigate aggressive behavior near human establishments

When I lived near Evergreen, my preferred method would have involved Mr. Mossberg.

4 posted on 06/17/2009 6:35:16 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: SunkenCiv; proud_yank; girlangler; Daffynition; Grammy; GladesGuru; Texas Fossil; XeniaSt; ...
Catch and Release is for trout not mountain lions

ht xenia st

5 posted on 06/17/2009 6:36:27 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: jazusamo

PING!


6 posted on 06/17/2009 6:57:23 AM PDT by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: george76
XS>Catch and Release is for trout not mountain lions

ht xenia st

LOL

7 posted on 06/17/2009 7:06:57 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

” ... develop a way to mitigate aggressive behavior near human establishments, ...”

Someone needs to go back a hundred years and figure out how they managed to keep these cats away. I suggest that they arm everyone in these areas with a shotgun and snap off a couple rounds anytime they see one of them. I bet they would become rather scarce very quickly.


8 posted on 06/17/2009 7:09:46 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: george76; Inyo-Mono
Catch and Release is for trout not mountain lions

Especially this one. It's sad that Jennifer and the DOW are more interested in job security than protecting both people and domestic animals.

It's pretty clear this one was born and raised by it's mother in the midst of man and has no fear of us.

It's either a zoo for it or a bullet, it's only a matter of time and it should be sooner rather than later, more tabbies and muffins would be saved.

Thanks for the ping, I-M.

9 posted on 06/17/2009 7:11:05 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

LOL, I ain’t going there.


10 posted on 06/17/2009 7:12:04 AM PDT by Dritz_Princess (Blonde, a woman, and I cling to my guns ... questions?)
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To: Travis T. OJustice
A young mountain lion was trapped and relocated by the Colorado Division of Wildlife after eating a house cat Monday...

Hey, mountain lions have to eat too!

As a side benefit, there's one less cat some irresponsible owner left running loose.

11 posted on 06/17/2009 7:12:48 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: george76

‘to better understand cougar movement trends and develop a way to mitigate aggressive behavior ‘

In my experience they tend to congregate at piano bars and after they have captured prey drag it back to a gated community. The only way to mitigate their aggressive behavior is to act gay but sometimes even that dosen’t work.


12 posted on 06/17/2009 7:14:49 AM PDT by Leg Olam (TOP SECRET! Os plan, 1 invade Poland 2 annex Sudetenland...)
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To: george76

13 posted on 06/17/2009 7:18:52 AM PDT by Daffynition ("If any of you die, can I please have your ammo?" ~ Gator113)
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To: Constitution Day

Like I taught my kids, everything is basically food for something else, and unwatched housecats left to run loose & free are like low hanging fruit for predators.

If you don’t want your cat to be kitty food for a big kitties, don’t let it run wild.


14 posted on 06/17/2009 7:19:14 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Daffynition

ROFL!!


15 posted on 06/17/2009 7:21:39 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Travis T. OJustice
If you don’t want your cat to be kitty food for a big kitties, don’t let it run wild.

A couple of years ago, our neighbors watched in horror as a hawk snatched their six month old Persian kitten right from their back yard in front of them.

16 posted on 06/17/2009 7:21:49 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Travis T. OJustice
Precisely.

I wonder what kind of illogic you know who would use to argue that the mountain lions carry diseases and don't belong there (much like the native birds she wants the non-native house cats to wipe out).

17 posted on 06/17/2009 7:23:25 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: george76

I CAN HAS CHEEZKITTEH?

18 posted on 06/17/2009 7:24:14 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: george76
In an attempt to scare the young cougar away from residential areas, officials shot him with non-lethal bean bags and buck shots upon release, Churchill said.

That's what they meant by "spanking" but they could not have used BUCKSHOT, it would have killed him. They mean BIRDSHOT. People who are afraid of guns are clueless.
19 posted on 06/17/2009 7:27:05 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann in 2012. With Liz Cheney as Secretary of State.)
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To: mnehring

Sad for them, great for the hawk.

One of my favorite parts of early morning fishing is seeing a bald eagle or osprey catch a fish. It’s a little different when it’s a cat, i’m sure.


20 posted on 06/17/2009 7:37:23 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: george76
"job security for Jeniffer Churchill and her pals."

Game wardens are getting to be just like doctors.

21 posted on 06/17/2009 7:41:41 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: editor-surveyor

Lots of new jeniffers recently in the DOW.

The experienced hands are being run off by the urban liberals with no real world experience.


22 posted on 06/17/2009 8:06:48 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: jazusamo

jeniffer is out of control.

Someone’s child will get killed because of her and her pals


23 posted on 06/17/2009 8:08:05 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

“ht xenia st”

Xenia Endres?


24 posted on 06/17/2009 8:08:49 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Once a Republic, Now a State, Still Texas)
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To: Texas Fossil

xeniast is a fellow freeper


25 posted on 06/17/2009 8:10:58 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Was just curious.

Thanks


26 posted on 06/17/2009 8:18:07 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Once a Republic, Now a State, Still Texas)
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To: george76; All
Here's a comment from the article by a resident of the neighborhood who's got a lot more common sense than Jennifer.

"She said the lion, which did not pose a public safety risk..."

How is it that a mountain lion running around a densely populated neighborhood hunting and killing prey does "not pose a public safety risk?" I happen to live in this neighborhood and I have a 4 year old child, one of many young kids in this neighborhood. That the Division of Wildlife could be so thickheaded as to even say something like this is very worrisome. I love nature, mountain lions included, but I must take issue with public officials saying such clearly ridiculous things. Really, how dumb do you think the 'general public' is? A mountain lion hunting and killing prey in an urban neighborhood IS ABSOLUTELY a public safety risk, by any definition.

27 posted on 06/17/2009 8:21:41 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: george76

Oh.
Goody.

Another cat, not afraid of humans, set loose on a different neighborhood.

Even if they put it way in the wilds, what if some hiker comes upon it (or vice versa)?

Stupid, stupid, stupid.


28 posted on 06/17/2009 8:23:39 AM PDT by Grammy (politics... poli ( many ) tics ( blood suckers ))
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To: RichInOC

LOL! (cat)


29 posted on 06/17/2009 8:24:19 AM PDT by Grammy (politics... poli ( many ) tics ( blood suckers ))
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To: Constitution Day
I wonder what kind of illogic you know who would use

Illogic, the PERFECT term for that one.

30 posted on 06/17/2009 8:26:12 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Constitution Day
Is this cool, or what?


31 posted on 06/17/2009 8:28:54 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

Wow! Is that your pic? Is the eagle picking up the fox or dropping him? That little bird on the right side of the pic is like, “Holy crap, I’m outta here!” LOL.


32 posted on 06/17/2009 8:32:01 AM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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No, just a pic I cam across. The “little bird” is about the same size as a crow. Sure looks like the eagle is picking him up to me.


33 posted on 06/17/2009 8:35:13 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: george76; Slings and Arrows; Glenn; republicangel; Bahbah; Beaker; BADROTOFINGER; etabeta; ...
“He was just too close,” Churchill said. “We wanted to give him a spanking and move him out of town.”

Sounds like the mountain lion isn't the only cougar here.


34 posted on 06/17/2009 8:38:21 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("If Dick Cheney is Darth Vader, then Barack Obama is Jar-Jar Binks!")
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To: Travis T. OJustice

Incredible!


35 posted on 06/17/2009 8:48:48 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: dirtboy

A very short female jogs above Evergreen, Co. I kept suggesting she carry the .38/.357 snubbie. Whether she does or not, hopefully will not ever be an issue of life or death for her.

On second thought, perhaps “an issue of life or death” should be replaced by “an issue of life or dinner” to be more accurate. There are reasons she may be dinner for a cat.

When gunpowder speaks, beasts obey - true for two AND four legged predators.

As for two legged social predators in agencies like the Colorado Department of Wildlifelike PumaPerson Churchill, so long as Americans are comfortable with allowing mere beasts to eye people as food, we will have puma problems.

PumaPersons, A.K.A. PantherPanderers, CougarCoddelers, ad nasueam, will spend every last paycheck we allow them to extort from us.

As is the case with all government agencies that have been allowed to expand beyond their constitutional bounds, the only real cure is reducing the agency size and firing staff.

Start by firing Jennifer Churchill. Fire the “scientists” fattening themselves on the “Front Range Mountain Lion Study”.

For well over a century, men lived in the Front Range area with no cat problems, repeat NO CAT PROBLEMS ! ! !

Why were there no cats attacking people back then and now there are problem cats all over? The answer is simple. Before animal nutcakes, such as now infest the DOW, got police powers to “Protect That Cat!” citizens shot the cats whenever the cats were deemed a risk by the citizen.

Since such cats are what biologists term “ambush predators”, such predators know what prey they are attacking. There are no ‘mistaken identity’ attacks on humans by mountain lions. Such predators had been conditioned to recognize man as dangerous.

Until the likes of “LionLover” Churchill were given police powers, mountain lions knew to stay out of sight of humans. Any human, any where, any time, was something such cats (and wolves, bears, coyotes) learned from the first days of their life to avoid on pain of death.

From Florida, where Lil’ Debbie tried to produce an Eden in the Everglades to the Front Range, all attempts to produce a people and pet safe predator that is not afraid of humans have failed.

All such attempts must fail.

History, and real science, make transparently clear what happened when Americans gave to Fast Food Rejects like the Lil’ Debbies, and the Jennifer Churchills in the Wildlife Agencies police powers.

Those Fast Food Rejects abused that police power when they infringed the citizen’s Constitutional Right to kill such predators whenever said citizen thought a predator was a risk to their life and/or property.

There is a core conflict of interest behind the beady eyes of every AgencyPerson. If the AgencyPerson were to recognize the citizen’s Constitutional Right to kill a potentially dangerous predator, there would be no need for said Agencyperson.

Instead of a well funded (with your tax dollars!) Five Year Plan dubbed the “Front Range Mountain Lion Study”, those bureau-scientists might well have to take a job in the Fast Food Industry.

Keeping that government paycheck is what motivates the bureau-scientist. In that, they are no different than any AgencyPerson. Agency employment is the only place where no results are demanded by the boss.

Which raises the question of whether bureau-scientists and other such AgencyPersons could survive in the fast food industry. Perhaps they really are Fast Food Rejects?

Back to Jennifer Churchill’s “Spanking the Cat” theory. She is really trying to create a cat which can live peacefully alongside humans. She, and other Liberals like her, are attempting to turn the Front Range into a “Garden of Eden”.

The Liberals failed.

What was created was not a Garden of Eden, where man and lion lived in peace together, but a place where the lions assumed the role of top predator and enjoyed the new food supply - people and pets. Not to mention lots of cattle, horses, and deer, elk, and sheep beyond counting.

Should you doubt the inclusion of people in the diet of the newly designated “Top Predator”, ask Scott Lancaster’s mother about this issue. Her son was run down, mauled, killed and eaten within sight of his high school while the school was in secession.

The cats no longer live in fear of man, but somehow the Front Range is full of people living in fear of cats. That, in my opinion, is a perversion of what America is about.

That fear is the direct result of conditions created by AgencyPersons who infringed our Constitutional Right to self preservation.

Fear is the only product of all that money wasted on the AgencyPersons fattening themselves on “Front Range Mountain Lion Study” funds.

For you Boulder Liberals, and you know who you are, consider that the creation of any ‘Garden of Eden’, in Boulder, or anywhere, is going to have to wait for something rather more wise and with powers rather greater than some assortment of mere AgencyPersons.


36 posted on 06/17/2009 8:56:36 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: HighlyOpinionated

Jenny means “rubber buckshot”.

Jenny really is protecting her job, nothing more. If people are killed by a cat she “spanked” instead of killed, she won’t lose one dollar, or a night’s sleep.

Have her fired, and the entire program shut down before some innocent person is killed and eaten.


37 posted on 06/17/2009 9:03:43 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: GladesGuru

Excellent post, GG.


38 posted on 06/17/2009 9:16:43 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Oh, very well, if you insist. Gee whiz. I have to do everything.

"...18 cougars were captured and are now being tracked."

Thank goodness. My nephews will be a bit safer.

LOL

39 posted on 06/17/2009 9:28:55 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

He didn’t say who has a death wish and is willing to do the spanking.


40 posted on 06/17/2009 9:36:15 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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To: mnehring

Long ago, we had a friend whose girlfriend took in a stray. She named it Bushes because she found it under one. She gave it to him because of his woodsy yard. About a month later, it got carried off by a raptor. He never told her, and they broke up, but for years, she would call to ask about Bushes, and he would always tell her, “Fine, fine. She had another litter,” or “She’s doing great.” etc.


41 posted on 06/17/2009 9:38:00 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Travis T. OJustice; Constitution Day

You know who has a good heart and strong opinions, just like a lot of FRiends here. JMTC


42 posted on 06/17/2009 9:43:24 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: GladesGuru; george76; All
Jennifer should start reading the news about cougars "which did not pose a public safety risk."

Cougar killed after mauling B.C. toddler

43 posted on 06/17/2009 10:58:56 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Sad for the three year old to die needlessly.

( onlookers cornered the cat near the river. But in the nearly three hours it took for cougar hounds to arrive, the animal slipped away )

No one armed ?


44 posted on 06/17/2009 11:40:31 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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Correction

Child is ok


45 posted on 06/17/2009 11:42:43 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Yes, fortunately the child survived and it’s a miracle.

Don’t know much about Canada gun laws but believe they’re pretty strict. You’ld think in that amount of time someone could have gone home and got a firearm.


46 posted on 06/17/2009 11:47:58 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo; fanfan

Not sure either.

Rifles ok

No Hand guns ?


47 posted on 06/17/2009 12:23:09 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76; jazusamo

The Three Legal Classes of Firearms in Canada:

Non-Restricted Shotgun Non-restricted firearms are ordinary hunting and sporting rifles, shotguns and airguns with an overall length of 660mm or greater. Many airguns fall into this class because they are capable of achieving a muzzle velocity of 500 feet per second. If it is a centrefire semi-automatic firearm, the barrel length must be at least 470mm to be non-restricted. These firearms must be stored, transported and displayed according to Federal regulations and you need a firearms licence to possess them. Provincial and municipal rules may further regulate these firearms (e.g., Ontario hunting regulations require that firearms being transported be encased at night). Certain firearms, although they meet the above criteria, have been classified as “restricted” or “prohibited” by order-in-council.

Restricted Handgun - Para-Ordnance Restricted firearms include many handguns and other firearms which do not meet the above specifications. Some firearms are classified as “restricted” by Federal order-in-council. A transport permit is required to transport a restricted firearm from the location where the firearm is registered. Anyone with the appropriate firearms licence and a valid purpose can acquire this type of firearm.

Prohibited Firearm - AK47Prohibited firearms include all fully automatic firearms, converted automatics and a variety of other scary looking firearms which have been classified as “prohibited” by order-in-council. Most types of prohibited firearms are “grandfathered” to their current legal owners (i.e., owners are allowed to keep them), but cannot be transfered to non-grandfathered individuals. Firearms converted from full-automatic to semi-automatic, and many handguns (barrel lengths less than or equal to 105mm, .25 or .32 calibre) fall into the prohibited class. If you do not already own prohibited long guns, there is no legal means to acquire firearms of this type.

http://www.firearmstraining.ca/classes.htm


48 posted on 06/17/2009 1:16:45 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: fanfan

Thank you.

Does Canada have CCW permits ?

What can parents do to protect their kids from these attacks?


49 posted on 06/17/2009 1:53:01 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: LucyT; MtnClimber; dynachrome

Boy attacked by mountain lion

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1615965/posts


50 posted on 06/17/2009 2:35:36 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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