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9,000-year-old brew hitting the shelves this summer
60-Second Science Blog via Scientific American ^ | 60-Second Science Blog | Brendan Borrell

Posted on 06/10/2009 7:53:01 PM PDT by grey_whiskers

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To: mamelukesabre
Rice, honey, and fruit.
Don't see anything about hops.

It's mead.

61 posted on 06/11/2009 5:45:36 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: mamelukesabre

It’s not. I tried it in early May, and it was pretty good. Tasted kind of like a mix of beer and light wine.

It’s been available here in CT for a few months.


62 posted on 06/11/2009 6:02:51 AM PDT by Betis70 (Keep working serf, Zero's in charge)
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To: Just another Joe
I'm not sure it is easily defined. It definitely has aspects of mead, beer, and wine, and is truly unique. I've never tasted anything like it:
"used pre-gelatinized rice flakes, Wildflower honey, Muscat grapes, barley malt, hawthorn fruit, and Chrysanthemum flowers."

MUCH better than their other 'ancient' recipe offering, 'Midas Touch' which I found not so tasty.

63 posted on 06/11/2009 6:10:58 AM PDT by Betis70 (Keep working serf, Zero's in charge)
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To: Betis70
So you've tried it?

And liked it?

If so, I may have to see if I can get some to try it.

64 posted on 06/11/2009 6:12:25 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Betis70

Huh, according to the website, it was originally released in 2006. I only recall seeing it this Spring in my local ‘decent beer’ package store.

http://www.dogfish.com/brews-spirits/the-brews/occassional-rarities/chateau-jiahu.htm


65 posted on 06/11/2009 6:14:00 AM PDT by Betis70 (Keep working serf, Zero's in charge)
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To: Just another Joe

Yes, I definitely liked it. More akin to a Framboise or Kriek or something along those lines than your typical micro-brew, but without the sweet/sour part of the Lambics. You can tell the muscat grapes are in there, and the Chrysanthemum is quite noticeable when you pour it.

In fact, I might have to get one for this weekend...


66 posted on 06/11/2009 6:18:22 AM PDT by Betis70 (Keep working serf, Zero's in charge)
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To: grey_whiskers

Home brew, meat on the B-B-Q that you killed with your own hands, as many weapons as you can make and all the narcotics you can handle from the forest around you... and no gummint busybody telling you what you can or can’t do. Them’s were the days.


67 posted on 06/11/2009 6:20:38 AM PDT by Natufian (The mesolithic wasn't so bad, was it?)
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To: Just another Joe
Actually mead is brewed from honey only. Adding fruit makes it a pyment.
68 posted on 06/11/2009 6:24:47 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker

I defer to your greater knowledge. I thought anything that used fermented honey, that didn’t have hops, was mead.


69 posted on 06/11/2009 6:26:47 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: grey_whiskers

‘Chateau Jihad?’ ;)


70 posted on 06/11/2009 6:27:11 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin ('Every criminal could learn something from Barack 0bama when it comes to stealing money .'~ Rush)
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To: muawiyah
They allowed what??

The b@$tards!

;)

71 posted on 06/11/2009 6:43:19 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (Free men do not have to ask permission.)
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To: Just another Joe
OK so I'm a home brew geek:

Mead: Honey, water, and yeast.

Pyment: Honey, water, yeast, and fruit.

Mytheglin: Honey, water, yeast, and herbs.

There are other sub-classifications which I won't bore you with. Suffice it to say that a properly brewed mead type beverage is a gift from God.

If one were to add maple syrup and blueberries to the honey and water and then let it ferment and settle for say 2-3 months one would have a beverage that reaches about 12% ABV with the color of a purple sunset and a wonderful dry, maple flavor.

By the end of the second bottle...WOOHOO!

In ancient times it was a Death Penalty offense to harm the tribes mead maker!

Best,

L

72 posted on 06/11/2009 6:45:43 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker
In ancient times it was a Death Penalty offense to harm the tribes mead maker!

I'd say that would be a really good rule for present times, also. ;^)

73 posted on 06/11/2009 6:48:24 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: parsifal
"...Texacommatal or something like that...."

I went to a supermercado and they had this similar stuff on sale: $3 for a six pack. That was the first red flag, but it went unheeded, because I'm a slave to a bargain. My wife swears I would purchase cancer if it was 50% off.

Anyway, it was fermented agave plant, the same plant tequila comes from.

It was the nastiest, greasiest brew to ever cross my palate, and that is saying something, as I am a homebrewer who drinks his own product, good or bad. It was a struggle to make it through an entire 12-ounce can.

Anyway, I highly recomend it, if only as a humbling experience.

74 posted on 06/11/2009 8:27:49 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (B.L.O.A.T. !)
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To: Tainan
I'm always unsure of which beer to drink with different foods...

(And these guys said I couldn't take their picture unless I let them pick something out for me.)

75 posted on 06/11/2009 8:31:33 AM PDT by stormer
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To: mamelukesabre
"...The “skunk” is caused by light. Whenever a beer is bottled in clear glass or other colors not as dark as plain brown, you run the risk of “light struck” beer...aka skunky beer...

Maybe this explains why every third Newcastle I open tastes like Conan The Barbarians' cranny: It's the clear glass.

Luckily for me, when I homebrew I put the product in 2-liter green plastic soda bottles. It still tastes like cranny, but it's just a tad less crannylicious

76 posted on 06/11/2009 8:31:43 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (B.L.O.A.T. !)
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To: muawiyah
 Ergo, beer with barley malt is not really beer to that population

While it's possible to make alcoholic concoctions that don't contain barley or other grains, as a brewer, I wouldn't call them beer. Beer without barley is like barbecue without meat. A certain percentage of the population might find that appealing, but most of us would not.

77 posted on 06/11/2009 8:38:12 AM PDT by Redcloak ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Lurker

>>If one were to add maple syrup and blueberries to the honey...

Hmm, that sounds heavenly. Any recipes online for that? I’ve used honey in some of my homebrews, but never done a full mead. You probably need champagne yeast for that?


78 posted on 06/11/2009 9:07:41 AM PDT by Betis70 (Keep working serf, Zero's in charge)
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To: Betis70
I made this one up myself actually.

12 pounds of honey.
1 pound of maple syrup
1 quart of blueberries
water in the usual quantity.
champagne yeast.

I let it ferment for about 90 days. Then before bottling it I used charging sugar and put it into punted champagne bottles.

I called it Lurkers Sparkling Blueberry Mead. (yea, technically it's a pyment but wth..)

Wicked good stuff.

79 posted on 06/11/2009 10:21:46 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: grey_whiskers

I think I’ll give it a try if I come across it (whatever it’s going to be called).


80 posted on 06/11/2009 10:51:37 AM PDT by wastedyears (Rock and roll ain't worth the name if it don't make ya strut)
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