Posted on 06/09/2009 7:30:02 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
London, U.K. (AHN) - A two-year-old girl has become one of the smartest girls in the U.K. after her IQ was measured at 160, the same as that of physics professor Stephen Hawking and Microsoft founder Bill Gates.
Karina Oakley of Guildford, Surrey near London made the score in the Stanford-Binet IQ test administered by child psychologist Prof. Joan Freeman. Part of the test is answering questions and the tot gave imaginative answers.
When Freeman asked, "What do you use your eyes for?" Karina replied, "You close them when you go to sleep" and "You put your contact lenses in them," according to the Daily Mail.
When Karina was asked what was missing from a picture of a broken teapot, The Sun quoted her as replying: "It's missing a handle - but also a picnic blanket and cupcakes."
Karina's mother, Charlotte Fraser, 36, said her daughter has a very good memory. She can easily remember foreign words and phrases after hearing them just once, and is able to recall numbers, shapes and writing.
i thought bill gates had an iq score of 135
As far as I know, a score of 160 at two does not mean that you will have a score of 160 at 30.
160, that’s about a hundred points higher than 0bama.
Bill’s has to be higher than 135. Mine is higher than that, and I am not living in a mansion in Medina.
Might as well- one no longer has to be a US citizen to be Reader of the Free World. Why should the age requirement matter?
LOL :)
Probably he is just one standard deviation below the mean, or 85. Just smart enough to get a friend to write your memoirs for you.
At that age I *cannot* see how you can be certain of such a thing.Have her come back in 10 years...or even 5....and I just might pay attention.
Theoretically, it should - but because the tests aren’t perfect, it doesn’t always work out that way. But IQ should remain fairly constant throughout life.
The problem is that the newer IQ tests generally measure high enough for the very high scores to be registered anymore. Socialism has effected them as well - with the newer tests it was unnecessary to measure at the extremes and instead they should focus on the average. It lessens difference, you see.
> When Karina was asked what was missing from a picture of a broken teapot, The Sun quoted her as replying: “It’s missing a handle - but also a picnic blanket and cupcakes.”<
Obama at age 12: “it’s missing a handle...we should ask why the teapot is white, not black...get a prayer rug and bow to Allah...sell the teapot back to the govt and make everyone in this room pay triple for the teapot..’
Remind me not to marry her when she grows up!
I scored 140 on the Tickle IQ test and they said I scored the same as Bill Gates and I am holding them to it.
160 is not really that high. - Two of my kids beat that, so does my wife.
And age is irrelevant.
A 30 month old with an IQ of 75 has the mental age of a child who is 22.5 months old... or only 7.5 months behind, developmentally. Girls tend to develop quicker than boys, especially in communication skills, so it should not surprise anyone to have a 30-month old girl at a 160 IQ and a boy at 75... and yet the boy catch up and pass the girl in IQ scores by the time they're 7.
Total BS. They gave this child a ridiculously high score because her answers were “imaginative”????
One wonders what the questions really were.
Good golly! If Gates is 135 and I’m a 131, I’ve really wasted my brain power! (Mensa membership starts at 132 IQ, so Old Bill Gates is borderline at best, anyway.)
I did manage to be smart enough to marry a MENSA member. Does that bump me up a few notches? LOL!
It seems like the “scale” gradually increases from year to year. When I was a kid I read that Goethe was estimated to have an IQ of 140 or so, and considered the highest known.
LOL! Perfect. :)
it kinda show all these iq score of popular ppl on the internet are Bullshit. I remember them showing Bush at 120 and Obama at 145
You're right. Two is too young to prepare a representative test. The best age is 5-6 years, and the test has to be adjusted for the child's life experiences.
When my nephew was about 2 or 3 years old, my sister had him in the checkout line at the supermarket. He was at that age where he just wanted to chat up every new person he met. In the course of talking to the cashier, he said, "We're going to see my dad now -- he's in prison." Which was completely NOT true! -- my sister turned white as a sheet and said "You have to believe me, my husband is NOT in prison!"
Have witnessed similar cleverness and quick thinking in many of the little kids I see at church.
IQ does not equal income. In fact, IQ is only moderately associated with income.
Other factors are personal skills, motivation (an area that is poorly understood or measured at this time) and borderline antipersonality disorder.
Personal skills are most directly related to business success, antisocial personality disorder is more directly related to success in investing. The interesting thing about antisocial personality disorder is that it seems to be related to a deficit in arousal. In severe cases, they commit crime to amuse themselves, in mild cases, they do not respond to the fear of loss that ordinary investors do and move counter current to other investors buying when others sell and vice versa.
So keep in mind that when someone has more money than you, they are really good with people or crazy SOBs. You can pick which description you feel is more appropriate.
At the age of two, all tests of mental agility and acuity are extremely subjective.
List of estimated IQs of famous people through history. Bill’s listed at 160 (as is Einstein). Oddly, the list is alphabetized by first name.
http://aceviper.net/estimated_iq_of_famous_people.php
I have no idea how they came up with these numbers.
Personally, I believe the importance of IQ, outside a few specialized fields such as mathematics and chess, is overrated.
When applying for Mensa membership, I took two IQ tests. The results differed by over 35 points.
My wife watches a little boy, 3 y.o. His mother told my wife excitedly that the boy and his father were having lunch together. The boy bit into his pb&j and proclaimed, “mmmmmm, that’s tasty dad!” Well, the parents, grandparents, great grandparents, aunts, uncles, everyone went apes**t thinking the kid was a genius because he’d never used language like that. I told the wife that he had to have gotten it from something he heard since he can’t read, but I was just raining on parades.
Fast-forward a week and the wife and I are having Sunday lunch. I popped a brewski and took a pull, proclaiming afterward, “mmmmmmm, that’s tasty!”
Mrs. randog let the boy’s family down easy....
What puzzles me is people with high IQ spend all day on forums posting trivial when they could accomplish something important.
We should ask her if there are 50 states in the US or 57...but of course only a complete IDIOT wouldn’t know that....
Was thinking similar thoughts. Our family regularly tests between 140-150 and none of us can spell schidt.
Hey, don’t look at me, I could never finish my IQ test, it got so boring! (True that!)
That’s nothing. I know hundreds of Obama supporters with an I.Q. of 160.
(Collectively, that is.)
I think the 2 year old would do better.
Britain’s Got Talent.
When my son was a little guy, the ladies would tell him he was cute and he would say, “You’re pretty cute, too.
I once told him I needed to iron the wrinkles out of his and his dad’s shirt and he said, “Who real cares, we’re men.”
Let me guess, she owes it all to Maypo.
But they look good and have great reflexes. ;)
/johnny
More evidence that IQ tests are bogus. By two, my firstborn could write the entire alphabet in Times New Roman font and spell many words. Some children learn early. Others catch up later.
Place the score on a bell curve and you will find it very high. I scored a 129 and it put me in the top 5%. Not great but I was happy about it.
At one point he picked a bird and a dinosaur. When the teacher asked him how they are related he told her, "Dinosaurs became birds. They are the same."
Also, he picked cars and trees. He said, "When you are driving in a car you drive past trees".
Nice logic.
I knew a 2 yr old who read the cereal box to her mom one morning....her IQ was measured at 170.
They re-tested her -- they had prepared a set of 50 questions, the first being "Do you believe in Global Warming?"
Her answer: "Certainly not. It's a hoax dreamed up to squeeze research dollars out of politicians."
At that point, they threw away the other 49 questions and declared her a moron.
[kidding! I'm kidding!]
The correct answer is to fill two holes in your head.
How can an IQ test be valid at two years old? How many other two year olds have been tested?
I was being a bit sarcastic, although I do believe Bill Gates' IQ is higher than 135. None of us are dummies in my family, however, my father has a fairly high IQ (170s to 180s). He has been successful in his careers (military and post), but he has had no burning desire to become fabulously wealthy.
I have known very smart people who were not rich, and I have known some real idiots who had a lot of money.
I am the Proctor Coordinator for the local chapter of Mensa, and I also administer many of the tests we give in this area. Mensa is by far the largest (about 110,000 worldwide, half in the US) and most socially active of all the high-IQ societies, but certainly not the only one. Others have both higher and lower qualification levels, from the 94th percentile to 99.9999 - but I suspect that those two just communicate by telepathy.
Mensa offers 5 different tests in the field, and that is the business of myself and 5 other proctors in this local group. These 5 tests are offered to candidates (age 14 and above) in two different batteries. One consists of two timed tests, and includes a little math and English; the other has 3 pictorial tests, one timed and two un-timed, within the time limits of the venue. A qualifying score on ANY ONE of these, or on any one of over 200 OTHER tests, will bring an offer of membership. I give these tests, but have never taken them because I qualified on my composite GMAT score. It was also enough for admission to Intertel, a 99.0 percentile group.
The actual scores required for Mensa admission vary, depending on the specific test, from about “IQ” 132 to 138. Generally, the qualifying score will be stated in terms of the RAW number instead of the IQ number. For the GMAT and LSAT, scores at the 94th percentile qualify due to the limited group that takes these tests.
Anyone younger that 14 must be tested outside of Mensa, generally by a school (for gifted program placement) or by a private psychologist. Our group has one of the youngest Mensans in North America, who will soon be three.
the number has no meaning without a standard deviation for the test.
A couple of weeks ago my 11 year old told my five year old that the moon was a “crescent moon,” and my five year old said, “like what we ate on the train in Germany!” My five year old said to her, “No, those were croissants.” Only once my brain started working did the light dawn on me that yes, croissant was French for crescent. Mind you, this same five year old cannot/will not learn her ABCs.
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