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DOUBLE TROUBLE: NBC Edicts Already Killing Jay Leno Show By Favoring Conan
Deadlinehollywooddaily.com ^ | 06/04/2009 | Nikki Finke

Posted on 06/08/2009 10:29:06 AM PDT by iowamark

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1 posted on 06/08/2009 10:29:06 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark

Jay already singed the contract, his fault.


2 posted on 06/08/2009 10:30:41 AM PDT by lewisglad
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To: iowamark
"(Then again, Zucker sold him a bill of goods to make sure Leno didn't defect to ABC.)"

Between Leno and Letterman, Leno's the lesser of two evils, but Jay's not half the business man that Letterman is.

Jay should have taken the ABC offer. He, like Letterman, could then have owned his own show and started working just four days a week. I would love to read Leno's new contract. I bet hit keeps him going to ABC for a while if/when his primetime gig fails

3 posted on 06/08/2009 10:35:06 AM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: iowamark

O’Brien’s act has always been lame, he is only funny to idiots.


4 posted on 06/08/2009 10:46:50 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Do you find Leno funny?


5 posted on 06/08/2009 10:57:43 AM PDT by VA_Gentleman (The tree of liberty needs to be refreshed...)
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To: iowamark
I basically stopped watching "Tonite" when Johnny left. Jay's okay, but he's not all that. And that Conan character.. noway I'll watch him.

The house that Johnny built is just about ready for the demo ball.

6 posted on 06/08/2009 11:12:02 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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A lot more so than O’Brien. I’m not a TV junky anyway, but I could get through a Leno show. O’Brien is like a grade schooler telling potty jokes, his act is just plain simple minded. His disrespect for religion is disgusting. I never saw that with Leno.


7 posted on 06/08/2009 11:23:56 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

“O’Brien’s act has always been lame, he is only funny to idiots.”

I totally agree with you, for I can not look at Conan and laugh. He is ugly like a young Larry King, and he thinks people will laugh when he just jumps up and down or turns his head from side to side. He literally makes me sick.


8 posted on 06/08/2009 11:58:29 AM PDT by tessalu
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To: iowamark

Confidential to NBC execs: “What the hell were you thinking?”


9 posted on 06/08/2009 12:41:04 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("I've conquered my goddam willpower." Don Marquis)
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To: iowamark
Conan O'Brien is a dufus!...
10 posted on 06/08/2009 12:49:47 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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Confidential to NBC execs: “What the hell were you thinking?”

Whatever the CBS execs were thinking when they signed Katie Couric.

11 posted on 06/08/2009 12:53:11 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: AFreeBird; Clemenza; Impy; Clintonfatigued; darkangel82; BillyBoy

I’ll tell you the real problem that goes far beyond Jay and Conan... it’s the guests. The celebrities themselves have become less and less interesting (and less talented and well-overrated) over the years, most of them have nothing to offer and are often mindless morons and it’s just painful to watch (and that’s BEFORE you even get to what passes for “musical talent” today, which is beyond execrable).

If you ever see an old “Best of Carson”, even their worst shows featured guests you didn’t mind seeing, the “Old Hollywood” types. Most of those folks are almost all dead now, or long since retired. About the only one left worth watching is Don Rickles. His interactions with Carson were classic (remember when Don broke Johnny’s cigarette case and Johnny crashed Rickles’s set ?). There’s just almost nothing on these talk shows today that rises to that level of talent and entertainment.


12 posted on 06/08/2009 2:09:38 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3niwv_johnny-carson-confronts-don-rickles_fun

Here’s the segment. They don’t get much better than this.


13 posted on 06/08/2009 2:16:43 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; iowamark; Clintonfatigued; Clemenza

I don’t like this move by NBC to put Leno on primetime.

It was done so he wouldn’t go to ABC and take his audience with him. If they wanted to keep him then why did they agree years ago to turn the TS over to Conan? (it was to keep Conan from defecting).

Now you have five less hours of primetime shows on NBC, they canceled “Medium” a show with pretty good ratings and CBS will now air it. I think it will all backfire on 4th place NBC and cement their poor position. I bet reruns of CBS shows will still beat Leno at 10/9 central especially if he’s barred from having a-list guests (which is retarded).


14 posted on 06/08/2009 2:43:48 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Never watched the show much but this isn’t surprising.


15 posted on 06/08/2009 2:53:41 PM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: iowamark

Conan reminds me of Gumby and that is scary. Reason enough not to watch. I’ll take Leno over him and Letterman any day.


16 posted on 06/08/2009 2:56:38 PM PDT by Vicki (Washington State where anyone can vote .... illegals, non-residents, dead people, dogs, felons)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Cigarette box? Cotton mill!? Interrupting another show that I’ve never of heard of’s taping?

Who was that guy on the show with Carson at the time who told him what happened?


17 posted on 06/08/2009 2:57:39 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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I was never that hot about Leno as it was. I always thought he was too much a suck-up. I liked the edgier Letterman, but I cooled enormously to him several years after he switched to CBS. His politics are so vicious now, he’s only a notch below Maher in offensiveness. I just don’t find him entertaining anymore. He’s just a bitter, unfunny old man.

I liked Tom Snyder after he followed Letterman (I was too young to watch when he preceded Letterman prior to 1981), but he’s gone now. I think something was lost after the Talk Show Wars of the early ‘90s.


18 posted on 06/08/2009 3:01:42 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
O’Brien’s act has always been lame, he is only funny to idiots.

I had hoped that when he moved to the earlier time slot, he would stop doing immature crap, like that asinine thing where he pulls on his pants legs with 'invisible' strings, or just makes strange noises for no apparent reason.

I guess I'm going to switch to Letterman.

19 posted on 06/08/2009 3:04:41 PM PDT by hunter112 (SHRUG - Stop Hussein's Radical Utopian Gameplan!)
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To: Impy

The networks tried to shoehorn Rickles into situation comedies, all of which failed (Johnny’s bitter retort while they were shooting proved true, though his “un-PC” comment to Rickles’ black co-star, Harrison Page, didn’t end up so, since he remains an active character actor today after 4 decades in the business). The show Johnny interrupted was “C.P.O. Sharkey”, which was around 1976-78 (lasted a season and a half). I saw the reruns back on the old “Ha !” channel that preceded Comedy Central. The show would be completely forgotten today were it not for the cigarette box incident.

The man sitting next to Carson on the sidekick spot was Doc Severinsen, the Tonight Show’s band leader. Severinsen would fill in as sidekick when Ed McMahon was indisposed.


20 posted on 06/08/2009 3:13:30 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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