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13 things that do not make sense
New Scientist ^ | April 14, 2009 | Michael Brooks

Posted on 05/14/2009 2:03:46 PM PDT by Hawthorn

Don't try this at home. Several times a day, for several days, you induce pain in someone. You control the pain with morphine until the final day of the experiment, when you replace the morphine with saline solution. Guess what? The saline takes the pain away.

(Excerpt) Read more at newscientist.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Health/Medicine; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: cosmology; einstein; homeopathy; placebo; stringtheory

1 posted on 05/14/2009 2:03:47 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Hawthorn

ping for later.


2 posted on 05/14/2009 2:07:21 PM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: KoRn

/mark


3 posted on 05/14/2009 2:10:00 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Hawthorn
You can solve the horizon problem by having the universe expand ultra-fast for a time, just after the big bang, blowing up by a factor of 10^50 in 10^(-33) seconds.

But wait ... Then the speed of light wouldn't be constant and the Earth wouldn't be 14 Billion years old ... Then we would have to come up with new models ... and then we would have to admit we were wrong on several fronts ... So that can't be right. I'm mean, We're Scientists! Next!

4 posted on 05/14/2009 2:10:22 PM PDT by TexGuy (If it has the slimmest of chances of being considered sarcasm ... IT IS!)
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To: Hawthorn

bump for later


5 posted on 05/14/2009 2:11:12 PM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (The emperor has no pedigree.)
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To: Hawthorn

pee ping


6 posted on 05/14/2009 2:13:22 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: Hawthorn

I see from the topics covered they still have no clue what makes liberals tick,or is that subject too difficult??

:-)


7 posted on 05/14/2009 2:14:28 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info..)
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To: Hawthorn
FOUR years ago, a particle accelerator in France detected six particles that should not exist (see Ghost in the atom). They are called tetraneutrons: four neutrons that are bound together in a way that defies the laws of physics.

And 100 years ago the atom was the smallest thing in the universe until it broke open and all this tiny crap came flying out. Why should think that the scientists are fully correct now? They were not correct then and they won't be correct in 50 years. What else is new?

8 posted on 05/14/2009 2:17:02 PM PDT by TexGuy (If it has the slimmest of chances of being considered sarcasm ... IT IS!)
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To: Hawthorn
You control the pain with morphine until the final day of the experiment, when you replace the morphine with saline solution. Guess what? The saline takes the pain away.

Placebo effect. Good in about 65% of cases. Many drugs tested don't meet the same level of effectiveness.

Nothing new.

9 posted on 05/14/2009 2:20:51 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution - 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: TexGuy
Nope, the atom isn't the smallest thing ... it's the smitherene
10 posted on 05/14/2009 2:22:55 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Hawthorn
You control the pain with morphine until the final day of the experiment, when you replace the morphine with saline solution. Guess what? The saline takes the pain away.

I wonder if this works with lethal injection too... ;)

11 posted on 05/14/2009 2:23:48 PM PDT by Darth Dan
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To: SkyDancer
Nope, the atom isn't the smallest thing ... it's the smitherene

You mean that awful 80's new wave punk band is the smallest thing in the Universe?!

12 posted on 05/14/2009 2:24:50 PM PDT by TexGuy (If it has the slimmest of chances of being considered sarcasm ... IT IS!)
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13 posted on 05/14/2009 2:26:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: TexGuy

Hmmm - didn’t know there was a rock band called the Smithereens .... me born in 1985 wouldn’t know that ... but my brothers, scientists all when we were growing up would blow things to smithereens ....


14 posted on 05/14/2009 2:30:28 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Hawthorn

15 posted on 05/14/2009 2:31:05 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: TexGuy; SkyDancer
You mean that awful 80's new wave punk band

Hardly. They're straight up rock. One of the best live bands out there, still active after 28 years, collaborating with acts like Graham Parker and The Kinks.

16 posted on 05/14/2009 2:37:18 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81
Hardly. They're straight up rock.

Ooops, you are correct. I was thinking of the "The Smiths". Sorry ...

17 posted on 05/14/2009 2:41:43 PM PDT by TexGuy (If it has the slimmest of chances of being considered sarcasm ... IT IS!)
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To: TexGuy
I was thinking of the "The Smiths". Sorry ...

I agree with you on The Smiths. They are horrible.

18 posted on 05/14/2009 2:45:54 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81

The only bands I’m familiar with from that time is The Stray Cats and The Eagles because my brothers played them constantly .....


19 posted on 05/14/2009 3:00:35 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: TexGuy
Then the speed of light wouldn't be constant

During those first 10^(-33) seconds.

and the Earth wouldn't be 14 Billion years old ...

You're not as smart as you think you are.

20 posted on 05/14/2009 3:04:22 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62
You're not as smart as you think you are.

It would have to take 10^-33 seconds if the speed of light wasn't constant. You have to have a new unknown theory to have a constant speed of light. Part of the assumption for the need for 'Inflation' is that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light. If that assumption isn't required then the theory of 'Inflation' isn't needed.

It looks like either you don't read or that you aren't as smart as you think you are. By your antagonistic post, I'm guessing the latter.

21 posted on 05/14/2009 3:13:20 PM PDT by TexGuy (If it has the slimmest of chances of being considered sarcasm ... IT IS!)
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To: TexGuy

lol. go back and read your post carefully.


22 posted on 05/14/2009 3:21:14 PM PDT by ciwwaf
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To: SkyDancer

“didn’t know there was a rock band called the Smithereens...me born in 1985...”

You should check out some of the old stuff. My daughters (also born in the 80’s) played some of my old vinyl and were pretty impressed. They even made me a couple of CD’s of my 70’s favorites. By the way, thanks a hell of a lot for making me feel kinda old. :(


23 posted on 05/14/2009 3:23:32 PM PDT by Jubal Madison (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: SkyDancer
Nope, the atom isn't the smallest thing ... it's the smitherene

Yep, I remember as a child things were always being blown to "smitherenes", so I believe you are correct. The Smitherene must be the smallest unit of matter to exist!

24 posted on 05/14/2009 3:26:17 PM PDT by calex59
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To: TexGuy

At least you’re right about the Earth not being 14 billion years old. Nobody says that, including the scientists you despise.


25 posted on 05/14/2009 3:28:26 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Jubal Madison

A friend of my dad gave him several boxes of old 45’s from a jukebox that sat in an old tavern that was being torn down. There were some original Beetles, Gene Vincent, Elvis ... must have been a hundred of them We spent all day washing and playing them ... BTW, sorry about the feeling old thing, wasn’t my intent ...


26 posted on 05/14/2009 3:32:03 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SkyDancer

Don’t be sorry - it was an ill attempt at humor. I actually don’t feel any different now than when I was 20. I’m training to do a 14000’ in Colorado this year, plan on skydiving with my 21 year old daughter this summer, and should have my private pilots certificate before my first grandchild is due in Nov. - “Old” Jubal is a long way from the rocking chair, even if he doesn’t look like it! ( OK, I feel a little old after my training for the mountain climb.)—JM


27 posted on 05/14/2009 3:48:52 PM PDT by Jubal Madison (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Jubal Madison

Hey Great! I was talked into a skydive - great fun!!! Don’t worry, I like the oldies - can’t stand what’s playing, what they call music. Yuk! We have a DVD of a put together thing of Elvis and his band - shows Elvis in his last concert with the band as it’s today ... I think it’s called “Elvis Live from Memphis” ....


28 posted on 05/14/2009 3:56:03 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Jubal Madison
"By the way, thanks a hell of a lot for making me feel kinda old. :("

Gee if you feels old how about old being the Andrew Sisters, Glenn Miller and Johnny Ray and my all time favorite Frankie Laine..:O(

29 posted on 05/14/2009 6:13:45 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Hawthorn

[14] Obscure topics.


30 posted on 05/14/2009 6:17:29 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: SkyDancer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeGozSm3ao4


31 posted on 05/14/2009 8:06:17 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: goat granny
The only Johnny Ray song I liked was “Walking in the rain”.
32 posted on 05/14/2009 11:07:03 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Well hi there old timer (just like me) Johnny Ray’s song “Cry” was pretty good too. :O)


33 posted on 05/14/2009 11:38:36 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: goat granny
I hated “Cry”.
34 posted on 05/15/2009 12:04:16 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

:O(


35 posted on 05/15/2009 10:17:20 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: goat granny

I forgot most of these

Johnnie Ray lyrics:
As Time Goes By lyrics
Broken Hearted lyrics
Cry lyrics
Hernando’s Hideaway lyrics
Hey There lyrics
Just Walkin’ In The Rain lyrics
Little White Cloud That Cried lyrics
Look Homeward Angel lyrics [1]
Such A Night lyrics
To Ev’ry Girl - To Ev’ry Boy (The Meaning… lyrics
To Ev’ry Girl - To Ev’ry Boy (The Meaning Of Love) lyrics
Walking My Baby Back Home lyrics
Walkin’ My Baby Back Home lyrics
Yes Tonight, Josephine lyrics [1]
You’d Be Surprised lyrics
You Don’t Owe Me A Thing lyrics


36 posted on 05/15/2009 11:25:50 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Whoa, that list takes me way back to what I was doing when they were popular..2 make me blush..:O)


37 posted on 05/15/2009 11:33:14 AM PDT by goat granny
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