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UFO or not UFO? Area 51 declassifying pours cold water on theory..
The Tech Herald ^ | April 12th, 2009 | Rich Bowden

Posted on 04/13/2009 11:39:11 AM PDT by TaraP

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To: allmendream

Let me ask a question:

Do you mean to say UFO sightings are non-real events, or that merely the names given the events differ based on the level of technology (or culture) that existed during the event?


81 posted on 04/13/2009 1:08:47 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Frank_Discussion

Thanks for your kind and reasonable words.

Yeah studying a topic since 1962 does leave one with a fair amount of distilled data! LOL.

Now to be more certain what is true and what is disinfo is still a huge challenge.


82 posted on 04/13/2009 1:09:18 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: allmendream

Some of our UFO threads have such pics of such artworks on them.

I don’t have ready links to them.

Maybe someone else will or you can dogpile it.


83 posted on 04/13/2009 1:10:27 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: allmendream

Actually, some of the Australian very ancient rock carvings of . . . space visitors . . . do include bug-eyed figures.


84 posted on 04/13/2009 1:11:06 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: TaraP

INDEED.

And now I have to get to work teaching . . . LOL.


85 posted on 04/13/2009 1:11:38 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Frank_Discussion
My point was that Friedman made a statement that can never be proven wrong. Hundreds of Area 51 employees could come forward and say they never saw anything, and Friedman could say the exact same thing. It's a common tactic of conspiracy theorists.

Maybe he should come up with some evidence or eyewitnesses instead of asking us to prove a negative.

86 posted on 04/13/2009 1:11:46 PM PDT by GunRunner
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To: razorboy

Some of us get weary of the naysayers routine assaults, insults and realize that

that’s the only language they seem to register on their noggins.


87 posted on 04/13/2009 1:13:21 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
I didn't say Corso was a whack job I said he got a lot of people to buy his book. Kinda like L Ron Hubbard.
88 posted on 04/13/2009 1:14:15 PM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: Quix

There is a connection, both Lucent and Lucifer got their names from the same Latin root for light. Lucifer is the light carrier (lux ferre), and lucent is actually the Latin suffix form of the word.

Lucent isn’t actually “in charge” of the lab. Lucent is the name they gave it when they spun Bell Labs off into its own company.


89 posted on 04/13/2009 1:15:19 PM PDT by razorboy
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To: Quix

Have a great day!

Come back soon!


90 posted on 04/13/2009 1:16:26 PM PDT by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: GunRunner

“My point was that Friedman made a statement that can never be proven wrong. Hundreds of Area 51 employees could come forward and say they never saw anything, and Friedman could say the exact same thing. It’s a common tactic of conspiracy theorists.”

Not to say I have 100% faith in Stanton Friedman, but what he said, if it were on a more mundane military tech discussion would not get this kind of heat. The statement was not a sensational one, and Friedman may just know more because he’s made it his bread-and-butter to dig into the matter.

“Maybe he should come up with some evidence or eyewitnesses instead of asking us to prove a negative.”

He has written many books and articles, and are completely accessable to the public. If every person asked any question were required to trot out everything they knew every time they made a statement, nobody would get anything done. Especially when the statement are of such a general nature.


91 posted on 04/13/2009 1:18:25 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: TaraP

This thread is nucking futs.


92 posted on 04/13/2009 1:19:42 PM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: Quix

That’s a cop out. If the facts are on your side you don’t need the fallacy of ad hominems. And shouting about logic mistakes while using logical fallacies just plain doesn’t sell you as someone who should be allowed to register in the noggins. That’s the kind of stuff that makes it easy to call believers nuts.

I believe in possibilities, but I also know the vast majority of “sightings” are from people either hoping for easy cash or just plain too eager for the paranormal to understand the normality of what they’re seeing.


93 posted on 04/13/2009 1:19:42 PM PDT by razorboy
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To: Frank_Discussion

I, too, am an engineer. Some of it is pretty interesting stuff, for sure, but I have yet to see any plausible connection to (non-earth) aliens. Zero.

Quix’s info is interesting to some extent, obvious nuttery in other cases, still, none is anything verified nor verifiable, ever.


94 posted on 04/13/2009 1:22:33 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: razorboy
Where are these “4000 trace landing cases with scientific verification”? Don’t just insist they exist, show some proof.

There is plenty of research material on this subject that's currently available on the Internet. Nobody is going to waste their time posting a list of website links because skeptics like you wouldn't bother yourself to click on them. If you want to research this subject, you need to take the initiative.

95 posted on 04/13/2009 1:22:53 PM PDT by Isabel C.
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To: outpostinmass2

I call it Spirited and Colorful with a flair for egg throwing.


96 posted on 04/13/2009 1:23:09 PM PDT by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: Quix

Eaxactly the nasty kind of response I write of! Thank you for helping to prove my point.


97 posted on 04/13/2009 1:24:28 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Isabel C.

If you’re gonna prove your case then you need to PROVE your case. “I’m not going to waste time presenting the evidence” just plain doesn’t cut it.


98 posted on 04/13/2009 1:25:09 PM PDT by razorboy
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To: Isabel C.
There is plenty of research material on this subject that's currently available on the Internet.

There's a lot of porn and scammers on the internet, too. I don't think I'd use that argument too hard.

99 posted on 04/13/2009 1:25:36 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: razorboy

Sorry, my post #95 was meant for Quix and not you.


100 posted on 04/13/2009 1:26:27 PM PDT by Isabel C.
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