UFO or not UFO? Area 51 declassifying pours cold water on theory..

The Tech Herald ^ | April 12th, 2009 | Rich Bowden

[TaraP]

Razorboy,,

If you believe in GOD then you would believe that GOD threw Satan and his Angels which were a 1/3 quite a bit...
out of Heaven, since they were thrown to the earth and dwell among us what do you think they would be called?

They are Aliens..They are Alien to this planet they are Alien to GOD they are not part of his Kingdom....

They are the demons we know here to perpetuate a Deception on Mankind.

[Quix]

A nap is calling my name quite convincingly.

Blessings,

[razorboy]

The wave/ particle thing isn’t just a visual trick, it’s a serious reality questioning piece of weirdness if you’re bored and don’t mind getting a headache:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave%E2%80%93particle_duality

Now as for your plane. That kind of stuff happens a lot. Light hits at a weird angle, people watching don’t realize where they are in relation to local flight paths, people don’t realize how bad your depth perception gets at long distance especially without intermediate object. I live in an Air Force town, there’s always something up there, and sometimes it looks a little odd. Usually I’m more concerned when they’re in the wrong place, especially since 9-11 “why is a plane there” has become the biggest concern when looking in the sky.

[Caramelgal]

I’ll say the jury is still out on that score.

And just what jury would that be?

And to what score for that matter. I do believe you march to the beat of a different drummer.

LOL!

[TaraP]

Sweet Dreams!

;)

[Quix]

I do believe you march to the beat of a different drummer.

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That has NOT been new information for more than 60 years.

[razorboy]

I’ve checked out what they’ve said. It’s usually pretty vague, they see a lot of “something”. And unfortunately they don’t bring back proof. A couple of guys, even a couple of guys like Neil and Buzz aren’t proof just on their own, we need some stuff. Heck even other UFO people don’t believe Corso.

[Quix]

Thanks Dear Sis.

You have the Con.

[in a manner of speaking . . . . now for naysayers to make something cheeky of that! LOL]

[razorboy]

That’s kind of been the whole topic of discussion for the last two days. Some folks saying aliens are really fallen angels and that their crashed or possibly not crashed vessels (”space ships” to keep it short) are the source of most of the technology that made the thing you’re sitting in front of possible.

[editor-surveyor]

Angels would definately not have traveled through space. Perhaps you don’t understand what an “angel” is?

[razorboy]

See that first paragraph gap there, that’s where you need fact. We can take as a given God and Him chucking out Satan and his cronies. What we can’t take as a given is that they are aliens in UFOs. To get to there first we need to prove UFOs are something non-human/ natural in origin, then we need to prove these things have residents that are non-human/ terrestrial animal, then we gotta prove these non-human things are fallen angels.

[razorboy]

Would they travel on a ship like device? A ship that crashed in NM? A ship that gave us the the basics for transistors and kevlar and lots of other cool post 1947 inventions?

I understand what an angel is. What I don’t understand is how they relate to a crash that might or might not have happened in the desert outside Roswell in 1947.

[editor-surveyor]

"A couple of guys, even a couple of guys like Neil and Buzz aren’t proof just on their own, we need some stuff."

Could you be saying that because you know that its impossible? - Any stuff that any astronaut might find or capture would be the property of big brother, and not available to support their contentions.

[razorboy]

It’s not impossible. All the astronauts have a few things they got to keep. And in theory there should be other proof from other “encounters”, I mean Quix states there’s 4000 scientifically verified landings, that should have made some stuff.

[Caramelgal]

I do believe you march to the beat of a different drummer.

That has NOT been new information for more than 60 years.

Wow. Now I'm insulted and you've hurt my feelings. I'm only a mere two months over 48 years old but will admit to have been marching to my own beat for nearly as long. That beat FYI is called reason. Give it a try sometime.

[TaraP]

It makes sense to think that ancient man saw “aliens” and thought of them as gods.

It is always said in many different religions and texts that they will one day return.

The fallen angels in the bible were in fact the ‘bad aliens’ or reptellians and the good angels the ones who were surrounded in light were in fact the pleadians

[Caramelgal]

Now as for your plane. That kind of stuff happens a lot. Light hits at a weird angle, people watching don’t realize where they are in relation to local flight paths, people don’t realize how bad your depth perception gets at long distance especially without intermediate object.

Exactly. Knowing that I was driving under a flight path, I knew full well that it was an airplane as I’d seen hundreds coming in for a landing over the very same stretch of highway over the years.

What I found interesting was, even with this knowledge, how light and angle and perception could be deceiving.

For a very brief moment I could understand why some otherwise rational people might think they’ve seen a UFO. On the other hand most rational people understand the rational explanations. Some folks however, because they’ve pre-programmed themselves to “believe” are unwilling to accept any evidence to the contrary and call the rest of us “naysayers”.

[Caramelgal]

Now as for your plane. That kind of stuff happens a lot. Light hits at a weird angle, people watching don’t realize where they are in relation to local flight paths, people don’t realize how bad your depth perception gets at long distance especially without intermediate object.

Exactly. Knowing that I was driving under a flight path, I knew full well that it was an airplane as I’d seen hundreds coming in for a landing over the very same stretch of highway over the years.

What I found interesting was, even with this knowledge, how light and angle and perception could be deceiving.

For a very brief moment I could understand why some otherwise rational people might think they’ve seen a UFO. On the other hand most rational people understand the rational explanations. Some folks however, because they’ve pre-programmed themselves to “believe” are unwilling to accept any evidence to the contrary and call the rest of us “naysayers”.

[razorboy]

But that still doesn’t put them in a craft of some sort they apparently can’t control over the New Mexico desert in 1947. Or any of the other various UFO sightings.

[razorboy]

And I do believe in possibilities. I mean the math says there’s pretty much zero chance that we’ve got the only useful rock out there, and compared to the universe we’re pretty young, or heck they could even be angels. But I shave with Occam’s razor every day, and usually “de plane” winds up being the answer with the least assumptions.