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To: Justaham

You can’t always get everything.

If the uphold Prop 8, even if they let these so-called “marriages” stand, I can live with that outcome.

It is the continued attacks on Prop 8 supporters that disturbs me more.


3 posted on 03/05/2009 12:55:24 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks.)
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To: freedumb2003

When I encounter a Prop 8 opponent I ask the following:

a. What makes you believe same-sex marriage is a right?
b. Have you read Federalist 84?
c. What does Hamilton say about rights in that essay?
d. Since you do not believe in the opinions of others, that makes you intolerant, right?


9 posted on 03/05/2009 1:01:46 PM PST by Loud Mime (The IRS collectes $1 trillion in taxes each year. Why not forgive all taxes for a year? Stimulus!)
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To: freedumb2003

It is conceivable they could uphold the ban (afterall, how can a constitutional amendment be unconstitutional) but refuse to void the existing “marriages” on the grounds that voiding them under Proposition 8 would violate the ex post facto provision in the US Constitution.


13 posted on 03/05/2009 1:04:04 PM PST by bobjam
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To: freedumb2003
Same sex marriages don't have a very good track record as for as longevity is concerned.
14 posted on 03/05/2009 1:12:06 PM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: freedumb2003
We just had a rather poorly attended election to re-elect Villaraigosa.

There were some import ballot initiatives that either passed or failed based on a rather limited sampling of the voting populace.

All that the gay rights advocates have to do is wait for an off year primary election to add a ballot proposition to overturn 8.

If all of the socially conservative African Americans don't show up, then the gays will have their "right" to marry.

19 posted on 03/05/2009 1:29:00 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (The cosmos is about the smallest hole a man can stick his head in. - Chesterton)
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To: freedumb2003
If the uphold Prop 8, even if they let these so-called “marriages” stand, I can live with that outcome.

Courts normally don't like to apply new laws retroactively. So the likely outcome is for Prop 8 to be applied prospectively only.

20 posted on 03/05/2009 1:42:03 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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