Posted on 02/23/2009 6:09:51 PM PST by GSP.FAN
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. -- Two historic cemeteries in Colorado Springs face a troubled future -- and not because the death rate is slowing.
(Excerpt) Read more at thedenverchannel.com ...
In 2007, the last year for which statistics were available, 63 percent of the 3,345 people who died in the county were cremated. And only 10 percent of the cremated remains were taken to Evergreen and Fairview cemeteries.
Cemeteries Are Dying Due To Cremations
Crematorium Workers Suffering from Burn Out
Why is this a problem? Cremation allows more plots in the same space, more flexibility with the land, and lower costs for the families.
Is there a provision for bailing out cemeteries in the stimulus bill ?
I do not understand your humour.This is a very grave situation..
I had no idea that the Rapture would be a bad George Romero knock-off...
Ya’ know? We have an Kenyan-born, illegal alien who’s surrounded himself during his life with America-hating scum and who has a wife who hates this country with a passion, in the White House, and he doesn’t even have a Selective Service number, and we’re worried about cemeteries?
What else do you expect from ‘shovel ready’ jokes?
Replace the tombstones with scrolling LED or flashing LCD advertisting displays!
This surprises me, as I heard that folks are always dying to get in there...
Exactly. I still don’t understand why we bury our dead.
“This is a very grave situation..”
Now you’re being crypt-ic.
I’m playing the lottery for one selfish reason. I want my body cast out into space when I expire. I kind of like the idea of still floating into the universal void for billions of years while the Earth is long gone.
“Replace the tombstones with scrolling LED or flashing LCD advertising displays!”
Here Lies John Doe...
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In plenty of places if you are buried your flesh rots quickly and your bones soon follow.
There might be some teeth left over but not for long.
See post #6- I do know some people who think this way and have even heard of churches who still preach this. There are people of the mindset and cultural belief that this is a barbaric practice. I say turn me to ash and dump me in the garden. :-p
More like that small mass object will be attracted to the larger gravitational mass object- ie, burn up in a planet's atmosphere or in the sun.
Stop....you’re killin’ me here!
I can’t speak to what your mother was taught, but what you’ve outlined was not the reason the Church was opposed to cremation. Before the 1800s, cremation was very rare except in cases of disease, in which case, the Church did not oppose cremation. In the Europe in the 1800s, some anti-religion intellectuals began to champion cremation expressly as a rejection of the Catholic belief in the Resurrection of the Body. Therefore, the Church instructed followers not to be cremated, NOT because they would need their bodies back eventually, but because people could mistakenly assume that their requests to be cremated were their way of repudiating the belief in the eventual Resurrection of the body. In other words, the Church did not want people to give scandal by seeming to reject Catholic beliefs by choosing cremation. In addition, the Church felt there was great symbolic power in burying, rather than burning, bodies because Jesus’ body had been laid in a tomb and His body rose three days later. In the sixties, the Church softened its stand against cremation as it became more widely understood that Catholics choosing cremation were not implicitly rejecting the belief in the Resurrection of the Body. However, the Church continues to prefer actual burial — again, for symbolic reasons — and still forbids people from scattering ashes. Cremated remains should be buried, not scattered or kept on the mantle-place in an urn. (By the way, the Church does permit burial at sea.)
Edgar Allan Poe wrote 'The Premature Burial' about a man mistakenly thought to be dead and buried alive. He later regains consciousness inside his grave and starts to panic realizing what has happened. The story is basically the man describing his last moments of consciousness and all the thoughts going through his head.. and even the sound of grave rats gnawing at his coffin as he lays there dying inside the cold, dark and damp environment.
Now here's something even more horrifying I thought of. What if by some miracle his body adapted to its new surroundings and did not die from lack of food, water, oxygen etc. What if it adapted to living indefinitely ? And the only way it would die was from a natural death thirty or forty years later.
.. or never at all.
I’ll send Miss Buffy right over.
The orignal point of burial (at least for Jews) was so that the body would decompose and return to the earth. (”From dust ye came from, and to dust ye shall return.”) A modern burial completely fails in this respect - with hermetically-sealed coffins and grave vaults and such, it’s become underground corpse warehousing.
In checking on the beliefs of my denomination, they prefer burial but cremation is not forbidden. This is mainly because they believe that the body should be respected and is often less respected when cremated. I know people who have a parent in a box, because they haven’t decided what to do with them and an in-law of ours still has not buried their brother.
2 grand vs 10-15 grand!!
In the past two weeks, I’ve assisted with the funeral arrangements for two 1st cousins who died within a week and a half of each other. The funeral costs were astronomical. They were 9200.00 with a nicer upgraded coffin & 8700.00 with a simple pine coffin. Cremation would have cost around 1700.00. I’ve made my plans and will be cremated. No way should it cost that much to bury someone.
Thanks for that sane, rational response. Good job!
Lol..
It is weird that this topic was posted today. I was just discussing this subject with my mother this morning. I know people that get so upset over cremation that they have refused to go to relative’s funerals if they are cremated. An older friend of mine didn’t even mention that her brother had died because she was ashamed that he had been cremated.
Thank you and you’re welcome!
Why buy a cemetary plot when you already have a glove compartment?
My Dad rides with me every day.
Reporters are digging up the dirt on these cemeteries.
Personally I want to be put up in the crotch of a mountain tree so the birds of the air can peck my flesh, I suppose there is some stupid law against it though. I pine for the old days when men were free.
The United Nations wants to do away with cemeteries. They are ‘unsustainable’ according to their opus on sustainabilty, the UN Global Biodiversity Assessment.
They are indoctrinating American mayors and county politicians with free trips to ICLEI seminars to tell our politicians how to implement this agenda in America.
It’s the anti-human propaganda and anti-human culture promoted by the internationalists that discourage people from traditional burials and rites. They don’t want any influence of average humans on the earth. So to them, burn everybody up and let them blow away in the wind. No trace left of Uncle Fred or Grandma Sarah. No one will remember they existed.
PCA- Presbyterian Church in America
Soooooo....I’m confused....We are going belly up on going belly up????
PCA is one of my favorite denominations! (I like the Missouri Synod Lutherans as well.)
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